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Old 01-06-2013, 12:47 PM   #1
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Question about Trifecta Tuning

I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to put. Im on www.phastekperformance.com and it has a form for stuff to fill out. Not sure what I'm supposed to do for the Octane Level. Also, it says "for other mods or tunes make note here:" or something like that. The rest is stuff I know like my VIN, Exhaust, Mods, year, and stuff like that. Just confused on a couple of things. Any help or advice?
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:49 PM   #2
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Octane level for you will be 87. (That is if thats what you fill up with....cause thats all you need)

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Old 01-06-2013, 01:20 PM   #3
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I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to put. Im on www.phastekperformance.com and it has a form for stuff to fill out. Not sure what I'm supposed to do for the Octane Level. Also, it says "for other mods or tunes make note here:" or something like that. The rest is stuff I know like my VIN, Exhaust, Mods, year, and stuff like that. Just confused on a couple of things. Any help or advice?
Tuning: Vehicle Year: 2012
Tuning: Octane Level:
93
Tuning: Cold Air Intake:
K&N Typhoon CAI + Part# #69-4523TP
Tuning: Headers:
N/A
Tuning: Exhaust: MRT V.1 + Axle-Back
Tuning: Vehicle Vin Number:
Tuning: Other Modifications:
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Old 01-06-2013, 01:53 PM   #4
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Octane level for you will be 87. (That is if thats what you fill up with....cause thats all you need)

And for other mods you need to list your CAI .
Curious as to why you think all he needs is 87 Octane. Please elaborate.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:55 PM   #5
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Curious as to why you think all he needs is 87 Octane. Please elaborate.
The V6 does not gain an advantage when used with premium fuel. Unless if you like to waste money.
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The V6 does not gain an advantage when used with premium fuel. Unless if you like to waste money.
Wrong...and especially wrong when tuned for it.

Don't feel like going into details because this has been debated to the moon and those who know, know.
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V6 should be tuned for premium to get the most out of it. I'm sure they would have told you anyway.
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alright thanks everyone! just was confused because i know the v6 octane level is 87, but the options it gave me were 91 and 93. which one of those is better to use? and is it safe even when its tuned? dont want to mess up my engine. sorry if this sounds noobish, im new to the world of tuning. lol
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Old 01-06-2013, 09:35 PM   #9
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If you have 93 octane in your area, and it is widely available, choose that one. In Phoenix, all we can regularly get is 91 octane.

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Curious as to why you think all he needs is 87 Octane. Please elaborate.
I'd love to see a dyno of a V6 running 87 vs another running 93.

Enough elaboration for me.

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The V6 does not gain an advantage when used with premium fuel. Unless if you like to waste money.
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Wrong...and especially wrong when tuned for it.

Don't feel like going into details because this has been debated to the moon and those who know, know.
I agree its a sore subject, but might as well go with the cheaper gasoline because I doubt the advantage is THAT much.

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V6 should be tuned for premium to get the most out of it. I'm sure they would have told you anyway.
What, another 3 HP?

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Please note I'm not bashing the V6, I use to have one. I honestly think when the engine runs fine off 87 which change it? Going with boost, then yes go with 93.

Save that $5-$10 a fill up and over time the tune will have been paid for, and other mods as well!

But its your car do whatever you feel is best!
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Wrong...and especially wrong when tuned for it.

Don't feel like going into details because this has been debated to the moon and those who know, know.
I meant stock. There simply isn't a reason to run the stock V6 on premium. It is not required on any other GM car with the LFX, so it isn't on the Camaro.
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Wrong...and especially wrong when tuned for it.

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V6 should be tuned for premium to get the most out of it. I'm sure they would have told you anyway.
Both correct.

When using 91/93 you reduce Knock in the engine. When using 87 greatly increases Knock which holds the engine performance back from fully performing. This is why GM has Knock sensors in these engines to monitor this. Actually all DI engines do just like the new V8's do. Higher octane fuels contain anti-knock compounds to reduce the temperature of the fuel as it burns. This is the main reason to use high octane in non FI engines.
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Both correct.

When using 91/93 you reduce Knock in the engine. When using 87 greatly increases Knock which holds the engine performance back from fully performing. This is why GM has Knock sensors in these engines to monitor this. Actually all DI engines do just like the new V8's do. Higher octane fuels contain anti-knock compounds to reduce the temperature of the fuel as it burns. This is the main reason to use high octane in non FI engines.
Not on the V6s....V6s shouldn't and are not supposed to knock on 87.

V8s do, but not V6s.

Let me rephrase, they shouldn't...not that they don't.
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For fuel I would enter whatever octane you intend I use most often or what is more readily available. 87 or whatever you choose the tuner will tune your ar to that octane.
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When your talking stock with bolt-ons a 3 HP gain is quite a bit compare to other bolt-ons. This would be added to your tune for best performance out of your V6 which is what you after if you are tuning.
The cost here in MA is typically .30 more that 87 octane. At 15 gal that's only $4.50. Cheaper than subway footlong
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