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Old 01-07-2013, 10:36 PM   #1
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Whats the deal with bailing out?

So this week alone two guys with RX SC kits have bailed.

My question is...after the install were you not satisfied with the power, sound, reliability or __________.

I have considered bailing out of my camaro before I spend a ton of money on it ie sc kit from IPF but can't find anything I would raher have to drive. If this is a future mod for me I would like to know honest reason's for the upgrade to an v-8 after super charging the 6.

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There is no replacement for displacement.
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:52 PM   #3
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There is no replacement for displacement.
theres only so much you can get out of this car before you hit the ceiling
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:16 PM   #4
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The kit is amazing! dont get me wrong. Makes the power and is awesome. I just cant do anything else to be honest...on a v8 i can do all kinds of things lol so would rather spend my money on something that I could just increase and increase in power and make it sound and look great
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The kit is amazing! dont get me wrong. Makes the power and is awesome. I just cant do anything else to be honest...on a v8 i can do all kinds of things lol so would rather spend my money on something that I could just increase and increase in power and make it sound and look great
So it boils down to... I had fun with the car but really wanted a v8. Especialy once the limits of the v6 mods became apparent. That is where I sit right now. Just cant see spending the v8 money to replace my perfectly good camaro with a camaro. I am not a huge mod guy but I feel the dream of some big power moded v6 slipping into a want of a v8.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:27 PM   #6
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:19 AM   #7
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theres only so much you can get out of this car before you hit the ceiling
It all comes down to dollars and cents. If I had unlimited resources and the money I would still rather drive a V6 Camaro and stand out. It all comes down to much your willing to spend to make your car faster. I am certain if someone invested hundreds of thousands into making their car faster it doesn't matter what size motor they have a V6 or V8 regardless its going to be a fast Camaro.

I am sure you can get more power out of the engine, just how much are you willing to gamble to get that power?
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:32 AM   #8
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You also have to look at your fuel MPG's. I like getting 30 to 32 mpg. So I don't have 500HP, but don't use it all the time, rather spind less time/money at the gas station. It's up to you. Maybe 500HP puts a bigger grin on your face?
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:54 AM   #9
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It all comes down to dollars and cents. If I had unlimited resources and the money I would still rather drive a V6 Camaro and stand out. It all comes down to much your willing to spend to make your car faster. I am certain if someone invested hundreds of thousands into making their car faster it doesn't matter what size motor they have a V6 or V8 regardless its going to be a fast Camaro.

I am sure you can get more power out of the engine, just how much are you willing to gamble to get that power?
I think this nails it down pretty good. The mod ceiling for the V6 is much lower than the V8. Just so many limiting factors.

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I think this nails it down pretty good. The mod ceiling for the V6 is much lower than the V8. Just so many limiting factors.

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"Affordable ceiling mod", but for the right buck you can make the V6 possibly even a ZL1 killer. Dollars and cents, most of us cant afford to spend the $$$ to research parts and develop parts to make our cars faster. Thankfully smaller companies have taken interest in us, IPF, RX, MACE, HPS, ... ect so we aren't completely left in out of the performance world.
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"Affordable ceiling mod", but for the right buck you can make the V6 possibly even a ZL1 killer. Dollars and cents, most of us cant afford to spend the $$$ to research parts and develop parts to make our cars faster. Thankfully smaller companies have taken interest in us, IPF, RX, MACE, HPS, ... ect so we aren't completely left in out of the performance world.
True, I just assumed everyone on these boards are not million dollar V6 owners lol.

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We are kinda close on the HP numbers compared to a ZL1 (580 * 0.8 = 464 RWHP; assumes auto transmission). The suspension is another thing. If you want an all out performance suspension and don't worry too much about ride quality, then you can do that for a couple of grand. I would think we should see some FI V6s keeping up with stock ZL1s pretty soon. Now if you want an all out bada$$ drag car then you also have to question the purchase of a Camaro at all. Regardless of the number of cylinders, it takes a lot to make one of these things run low 10s or high 9s.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:37 PM   #13
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Nothing wrong with moving to a V8, we build those to 900-1000 hp plus where the most we have pushed the V6 is just under 700 and that was only on the dyno, not a build that would live on the street. Also, there are 22 RX SC builds on the road and with any build, people want more power with reliability are going to need to move to a V8 platform.

The nice thing is these are easy enough to swap to anyones wanting a bargain, and we will do it for a minimal price as well.

What we dont want to see is reigniting the hate crap here between the 2 as that accomplishes nothing. Both are good systems with happy campers, so I hope that is not your intent macrakie as there is no place for that here or anywhere.

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Nothing wrong with moving to a V8, we build those to 900-1000 hp plus where the most we have pushed the V6 is just under 700 and that was only on the dyno, not a build that would live on the street. Also, there are 22 RX SC builds on the road and with any build, people want more power with reliability are going to need to move to a V8 platform.

The nice thing is these are easy enough to swap to anyones wanting a bargain, and we will do it for a minimal price as well.

What we dont want to see is reigniting the hate crap here between the 2 as that accomplishes nothing. Both are good systems with happy campers, so I hope that is not your intent macrakie as there is no place for that here or anywhere.

I think he was just making an observation. Which seeing as he didn't state anything untrue is a valid one.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:14 PM   #15
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I think he was just making an observation. Which seeing as he didn't state anything untrue is a valid one.
Yep made an observation...I could care less whos kit they had. sc1250 dont get all defensive about this. Just surprises me to see big money spent and then move on so quick. I dont want to be that guy as the little lady would kill me and kabosh my toys in a hurry. Just looking to educate myself before I do something I regret as I would not have the money to s/c my v6 and move on for what ever reason. I have a one time shot lile many at this.
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Old 01-08-2013, 08:47 PM   #16
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It all comeS down to what you want. I wanted a V6 since this is my almost daily driver. I have looked at upgrading, but the SS wouldn't be a good trade vs my V6 SC. I might have gone with the 1LE if it was available. But when I look at my RJT with a SC that can kick any stock SS I could trade for, it was an easy decision. And it was even easier when I go to the gas pumps. The car is what I want, now if that ZL1 came through for me.... Hey there is always something more ! For now I'm keeping my IPF, no reason to change, no regret
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I also think once someone gets bite by HP bug, a lot of times it leaves a virus that never goes away, always wanting more. For example, the shop I have my car at getting the Stage 3 Meth kit installed and some other work, has this perfectly good car and motor. I don't remember the name of the car (maybe someone can tell by the pics), but I sure it is fun to drive as is. However, the owner is having the engine pulled and custom built twin turbo setup installed. Why? Probably because of the HP bug.
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looks like a gtm supercar
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Same thing when I brought my V6 in for the dyno after the SC install. They were just taking a Porsche GT3 with under 500 miles off the dyno to get another 75 HP with aftermarket changes to the FI. I kind of felt real small at that point
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looks like a gtm supercar
Thanks, that lead enabled me find out it is a Mosler by looking up the GTM because I was thinking he said something starting with a "M". Also, sorry about the poor quality of pics, was using iPhone.
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its a Mosler http://www.moslerauto.com/
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Nothing wrong with moving to a V8, we build those to 900-1000 hp plus where the most we have pushed the V6 is just under 700 and that was only on the dyno, not a build that would live on the street. Also, there are 22 RX SC builds on the road and with any build, people want more power with reliability are going to need to move to a V8 platform.

The nice thing is these are easy enough to swap to anyones wanting a bargain, and we will do it for a minimal price as well.

What we dont want to see is reigniting the hate crap here between the 2 as that accomplishes nothing. Both are good systems with happy campers, so I hope that is not your intent macrakie as there is no place for that here or anywhere.

This is an important concept to comprehend. Different strokes for different folks. Personally, I think the perfect streetable car would be a 450-500hp V6 car with the handling of a 1LE or ZL1, plus getting 30mpg? That's a no brainer.

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I agree with this assessment !
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I just stated this on another thread as I am really close to pulling the trigger on a SC. But now with the recent switch overs, I am a little hesitant to take the leap. Very afraid of the "what do I do now?" after you get use to it kicks in!
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I don't see what the big deal is ppl are always trading and selling there cars for something different. I am glad they are sticking with the camaro. Also if it stop someone from modding their car that's just crazy. With two stepping away that means more should step up to the plate. Congrats guys on what you have done for the sc crowd. Just my two cent.


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