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Old 03-19-2013, 10:14 AM   #851
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Anybody been to the track or done some new stuff to the car? I've been itching for some more mods so I've been looking for things to spray paint! It's cheap and keeps me occupied!
Every time I have a "free," day to go drag racing grad school pulls out the BS card!



And funny you mention mods, my to do list is only about half way done but after getting an updated tune I'm so satisfied with my car that I'm going to be happy for a long time! The original tune from Trifecta made my shifting awesome but I didn't feel too much power. I also noticed my exhaust tips would blacken in a day when before they would go months and months and look clean except for the very bottom. I got a leaned out tune and OH MAN the power is ridiculous. Not to mention my MPG around the city went from 16.5 to 21.5. So at the moment I'm happy, just going to put some headlight armor on my tail lights this Saturday.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:19 AM   #852
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Every time I have a "free," day to go drag racing grad school pulls out the BS card!

And funny you mention mods, my to do list is only about half way done but after getting an updated tune I'm so satisfied with my car that I'm going to be happy for a long time! The original tune from Trifecta made my shifting awesome but I didn't feel too much power. I also noticed my exhaust tips would blacken in a day when before they would go months and months and look clean except for the very bottom. I got a leaned out tune and OH MAN the power is ridiculous. Not to mention my MPG around the city went from 16.5 to 21.5. So at the moment I'm happy, just going to put some headlight armor on my tail lights this Saturday.
Did you have to specifically ask for an updated tune or did Vince actually say something other than "Looks good" when you sent him a log?


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Old 03-19-2013, 10:36 AM   #853
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I sent in the log to BNR with an email with everything I wanted done, they forwarded it to Vince. Basically I listed out the fuel ratio problem, see if my car could start from 1st gear in S mode, and if he could add the M to S mode function on the upshift button. All I got back was a tune with no explanation so I asked what was changed and I was told only the fuel ratio.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:42 AM   #854
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I sent in the log to BNR with an email with everything I wanted done, they forwarded it to Vince. Basically I listed out the fuel ratio problem, see if my car could start from 1st gear in S mode, and if he could add the M to S mode function on the upshift button. All I got back was a tune with no explanation so I asked what was changed and I was told only the fuel ratio.
Yea, that happens. I don't like that there is no explanation but hey at least an updated tune was included so whatever lol
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:54 AM   #855
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Are you kidding me? No explanation? Here's a file, flash it on your $30,000 car and just trust me... I don't even flash stuff on my phone blindly.

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Old 03-19-2013, 10:58 AM   #856
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Yea, that's how many showed up last time as well. It was just a file. I did ask first but I imagine there are a few people here who don't and just flash it in. I of course don't think Vince would ever code something that could do damage but I don't like to flash my car unless I know what's in the program
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:02 PM   #857
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Are you kidding me? No explanation? Here's a file, flash it on your $30,000 car and just trust me... I don't even flash stuff on my phone blindly.

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Lol, exactly! I've bricked my android before, no way I'm bricking my car.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:43 PM   #858
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And funny you mention mods, my to do list is only about half way done but after getting an updated tune I'm so satisfied with my car that I'm going to be happy for a long time! The original tune from Trifecta made my shifting awesome but I didn't feel too much power. I also noticed my exhaust tips would blacken in a day when before they would go months and months and look clean except for the very bottom. I got a leaned out tune and OH MAN the power is ridiculous. Not to mention my MPG around the city went from 16.5 to 21.5. So at the moment I'm happy, just going to put some headlight armor on my tail lights this Saturday.
This is very interesting to me, and takes me back to this thread about the IPF tune: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280663 and more specifically one of Hapisoks posts before the discussion really took off:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=16

In that post he warns about the possible issues of running a lean tune.

Are you sure the tune is safe? What was your AFR originally and what AFR did you request?

I guess I'm just curious b/c this is the first time I've heard of anyone request a leaner tune from Trifecta.
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Old 03-19-2013, 02:10 PM   #859
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:23 PM   #860
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Lol, exactly! I've bricked my android before, no way I'm bricking my car.
Haha that's my biggest hobby outside of my car.

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Old 03-19-2013, 03:41 PM   #861
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This is very interesting to me, and takes me back to this thread about the IPF tune: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280663 and more specifically one of Hapisoks posts before the discussion really took off:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=16

In that post he warns about the possible issues of running a lean tune.

Are you sure the tune is safe? What was your AFR originally and what AFR did you request?

I guess I'm just curious b/c this is the first time I've heard of anyone request a leaner tune from Trifecta.
No worries man, that's a totally valid concern. I have a visual log on my laptop (I'm on my desktop now) so when I get a chance I'll post before and after. But my LTFT and STFT seem fine. I'm getting 21 mpg city but Melbourne is pretty suburbany and I've yet to hit the 5:00 pm rush hour traffic. I'm expecting between 19 and 20 average then, which is where I was before my tune. Haven't gotten a chance to do highway mileage either but I was at 30-ish mpg at 65 mph before the tune then at like 27 mpg after the initial tune which is rubbish at 65 mph.

So no, I don't think my tune leaned out dangerously far. I would assume Vince wouldn't have tuned it otherwise. At any rate I'll post my logs when I can. I don't know if the log visualizer contains AFR, but I'll look.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:52 PM   #862
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:12 PM   #863
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Haha that's my biggest hobby outside of my car.

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A kindred spirit! what do you think of the HTC one and Galaxy S4? Personally I'm going to wait on the Google-rola X phone.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:31 PM   #864
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I can't speak for IPF but I know Trifecta tunes on the safe side by being some-what rich. I've had a wideband in my car for well over a year (several months before I was FI) and I always ran a little more rich than what most N/A cars do.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:38 PM   #865
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Our cars run rich to start with though right?
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:20 PM   #866
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:39 PM   #867
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i had blacked out tips with my trifecta tune as well. the AFR you see, should generally be set for 14.7:1 during cruising and only drop between 12-13's during WOT.

a rich condition is what causes the excess build up of carbon on the tips. it is from fuel that has not completed the combustion process. in conjunction with the amount of oil that the LLT consumes...good luck avoiding it. if you look, you will notice the stock camaro trashcans that hang below the bumper drain out carbon buildup through a weep hole (or something like that) which causes the black stripe on the bottom side. like was mentioned earlier, they come that way (rich/safe) from the factory.

the more you get into the peddle and go WOT, the quicker carbon will build up. not achieving complete combustion could also be an indication of timing being off, even with a richer AFR. just something to think about.
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