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Old 01-16-2013, 08:15 AM   #1
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Smile Install of a Supercharger or Turbo

I've been contemplating whether or not to get a supercharger or not and i was just wondering how hard the installs are on the LLT??
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:23 AM   #2
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Can you change youre own spark plugs? If so then you can install a vortech sc. just need about eight to ten hours. the hardest part is taking off the front bumper.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:27 AM   #3
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Yea i've taken my front bumper off before and it was NOT fun haha well taking it off wasn't the hard part it was putting it back on! haha but the kit is just a bolt on system?
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:48 AM   #4
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The IPF kit is
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:03 AM   #5
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so say i bought the kit and got it in 2 weeks and installed it... i could drive my car with no tuning right after i put the kit on?
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The kit comes with the tuning module you'll need
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LS is right. The IPF SC Kit comes with everything you need to Install, tune it and have you on the rode in no time. Just ask Sikoriko. He is my record self installer! There have been a total of 10 IPF SC Kits installed by end users with no problems.

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Supercharger you say? Go IPF and don't look back.
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I just started it up for about 60 seconds, listen for rubs or noises, then get the tune. if there was a problem I could fix it. but do not drive it with out a tune.
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bolt on and reversible
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Old 01-16-2013, 02:41 PM   #11
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We have customers install in their driveway in 1-2 days, but have some unreal installed specials going on right now....give us a call for details as you close.

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Old 01-16-2013, 02:58 PM   #12
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Isn't this IPF kit more like a procharger setup?
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Isn't this IPF kit more like a procharger setup?
All SC kits for the V6 on the market right now are centrifugal supercharger style kits.
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Old 01-16-2013, 03:31 PM   #14
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That's what i was thinking but it is belt driven correct?
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:04 PM   #15
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Not sure if the V6 cars have a keyway in the crankshaft, but if not hopefully all you guys going supercharged are pinning your cranks. If not the crank will spin on the crankshaft.

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Old 01-16-2013, 04:49 PM   #18
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no pin. But I keep an eye on the pulley just incase. I think the belt will slip before the pulley spins
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That is beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that the roots blower for us V6'ers <3 ?
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:37 AM   #22
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I might just wait for a blower system to come out for the LLT. Idk how power will match the turbo systems or the centrifugal supercharger kits though. I really would like to do twin turbo but everyone says they are a lot of maintenance but..... turbos can make a lot more power than a centrifugal supercharger and probably a blower from what
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I might just wait for a blower system to come out for the LLT. Idk how power will match the turbo systems or the centrifugal supercharger kits though. I really would like to do twin turbo but everyone says they are a lot of maintenance but..... turbos can make a lot more power than a centrifugal supercharger and probably a blower from what
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The problem you are going to run into is tuning the Bosch ECU. We pushed my old LLT to the ragged edge to get a consistent 450 RWHP; at 500 RWHP we started breaking stuff. That was no kit, it was custom built with a lot of stuff that wouldn't be in any kit. So, just because turbos can make more power doesn't mean you will actually see that power. Heck, with my LFX I'm probably at less than 70% of the turbo capacity but can't pump more fuel to it.
Basically, what I'm saying is if you are looking for a kit, don't let the potential power inform your decision. All of them will probably hit the same limit on the LLT. Instead, focus on when the power is made in the RPM range, reliability and price. If you want a beast, then don't buy a kit; have someone build you a custom solution.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:10 AM   #24
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Is there not a way to put a different ECU on the car? I've seen it done with other cars. and say i went with a kit... what would be the best all around kit to buy?


And having someone build a a custom kit gets pretty costly... I've heard talks of 10K for custom and like 5-7K for a pre-built kit but that's another 3-5K more for maybe 50 HP more than what i can really pull out of this car.
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Is there not a way to put a different ECU on the car? I've seen it done with other cars. and say i went with a kit... what would be the best all around kit to buy?


And having someone build a a custom kit gets pretty costly... I've heard talks of 10K for custom and like 5-7K for a pre-built kit but that's another 3-5K more for maybe 50 HP more than what i can really pull out of this car.
We couldn't find a cost effective way to replace the ECU, which is why I traded for a 2012. Most of the wiring harness needs to be replaced, plus you have to sync it with all the other computers and get the VIN matching done. Not very pretty.

I'm not a good one to ask about the kits because I never had one. Mine was the first twin turbo LLT and some of what was learned then when into the RX kit. Never had a kit so I can't really tell you much about any of them except to say don't set your HP desires too high. They will make more power than the stock L99 and LS3, but you won't have the lowend torque on the superchargers.

Take a look at the FI List (sticky at the top of the V6 forced induction section) and look what people are running. Then PM them for details.
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