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Old 01-21-2013, 05:07 AM   #18
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But then it all depends on what the dealership gets in, I am not going to be buying brand new, so it all just depends. I would like to have more power though, so hopefully its the manual
Don't get caught up on 25hp. It doesn't make that big of a difference, and if you plan to do some big hp modded racing almost all the big guys goto automatics. Get whatever you will enjoy more. Banging gears? or multitasking comfort?
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:14 AM   #19
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See that's the thing, my v6 is an automatic. I like it, it makes it easy to drink or hold the girls hand, but i know manual's are more fun from what I have been told so either or. I don't live in a city like Seattle where its stop and go stop and go on the highway or city so manual wouldnt be a problem.
I would disagree and say auto is more fun. It's faster
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:29 AM   #20
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Don't forget the LSA in the ZL1.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:09 AM   #21
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Who could forget the LSA?! the ZL1 just isnt an option, i dont have 65k laying around haha. I will barely be able to get the ss. I think I will just take whatever the camaro gods give me And then I can be a cool SS owner at the age of 18! Hopefully it all works out.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:47 AM   #22
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It sounds like they will be introducing the LS7 in the Camaro for MY2014. How much modding did you do to your V6. I ask this because any exhaust modification you do to a L99 (auto) car you will need to tune out the AFM otherwise it doesn't sound very good. Just something to think about.
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yup...tuned auto vs tuned manual...I'd bet the auto wins at the drag strip...seen it myself.
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It's funny how most the guys on here think manual is the end all be all.... When most of them probably rip through clutches faster then gears!
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:00 PM   #25
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It sounds like they will be introducing the LS7 in the Camaro for MY2014. How much modding did you do to your V6. I ask this because any exhaust modification you do to a L99 (auto) car you will need to tune out the AFM otherwise it doesn't sound very good. Just something to think about.
Just exhaust mod and trailing arms for performance, cold air intake soon. A tune from online? Or dyno?
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:02 PM   #26
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Is the LS7 the engine that is in the corvette? Why do they need to have different engines? and why can't the auto have the same hp as the manual?
Horsepower isn't everything. The auto is more consistent at the track and tends to finish first with professional drivers. You can't shift as fast as your computer.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:56 PM   #27
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Horsepower isn't everything. The auto is more consistent at the track and tends to finish first with professional drivers. You can't shift as fast as your computer.
this is true. as you move up the ranks you drift away from true manuals very quickly. google Lenco. it took a while for the technology and knowledge of materials science to make planetary gears durable for very high horsepower (2000+). I've been away from drag racing for a few years, but I know the higher level sportsman cars are starting to run autos/converter drives more. source: I used to race a 7 second dragster with a powerglide.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:02 AM   #28
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Just exhaust mod and trailing arms for performance, cold air intake soon. A tune from online? Or dyno?
Any tune will be able to disable the AFM, but if you are going to get the tune you might as well do the dyno tune. Much better results, more specific adjustments for your car.

Also, like others have said what is your end goal? If you want a consistent drag strip/street car you will want an auto. Pretty hard to beat a computer.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:34 AM   #29
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I just want a car i will be able to enjoy every day. It would be my daily driver. And I would like to go FAST.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:49 AM   #30
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and the lower hp in automatics is because of higher drivetrain loss, aka the "resistance" the power goes through as its transmitted from the engine , to trans, to the rear end.
Advertised hp at the engine has nothing to do with drivertrain loss through the drivertrain. A 400hp engine rated at the flywheel (or what manufacturers advertise at) is a 400hp engine regardless of what transmission or other driveline parts it has.

The difference in hp between the automatics and manuals is due to some parts of the engines being different.
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:04 PM   #31
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I just want a car i will be able to enjoy every day. It would be my daily driver. And I would like to go FAST.
I'm looking to trade up to a v8 as well and wanted to ask the same questions. Thanks for the post.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:45 PM   #32
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I'm looking to trade up to a v8 as well and wanted to ask the same questions. Thanks for the post.
Do you have a Cyber Grey or Ashen Grey?
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:19 AM   #33
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it seems like every other day i read a new thread and no matter how its started somewhere along the lines it turns into auto vs manual. Which turns into my auto is faster than your manual at the drag strip, but last time i checked i wasn't able to find and Ls3 to L99 conversion kit. The debate will go on forever but at the end of the day they are both camaros so its a win win...

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Old 01-25-2013, 01:28 AM   #34
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it seems like every other day i read a new thread and no matter how its started somewhere along the lines it turns into auto vs manual. Which turns into my auto is faster than your manual at the drag strip, but last time i checked i wasn't able to find and L99 to Ls3 conversion kit. The debate will go on forever but at the end of the day they are both camaros so its a win win...
What do you mean you can't find a l99 to ls3 conversion kit?? Just about everyone sells them.
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