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Old 01-21-2013, 08:11 AM   #1
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CoolerLogic or TORQ heat exchanger?

Finally made it it to the track this weekend. Best run was a 12.42 ET. Which was the second pass, some reason the first did record on equipment at track. But every one after that got slower, sure from heat soak. Which HX would you prefer CoolerLogic or TORQ? Any modifications necessary to install either? What about fans from TORQ being mounted on CoolerLogic HX? Thanks for any info.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:32 AM   #2
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Finally made it it to the track this weekend. Bet run was a 12.42 ET. Which was the second pass, some reason the first did record on equipment at track. But every one after that got slower, sure from heat soak. Which HX would you prefer CoolerLogic or TORQ? Any modifications necessary to install either? What about fans from TORQ being mounted on CoolerLogic HX? Thanks for any info.
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The torq unit looks nice. They require no modification to fit in the factory location as there is a lot of space there for extra thickness. My Cooler Logic unit fits great and helps considerably. The fans are a nice touch as more airflow across the fins has to help. I bet if the actual Torq fans won't fit that a similar electric fan could be found that would be fine for this application.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:41 AM   #3
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I went with the Torq Heat exchanger awesome product and very well built
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:59 AM   #4
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tpower did you have to drill any hole to install HX and did you get with or without fans, and have you used it at drag strip yet? wondering how long of a cool down period before next pass. I waited about 30 minutes between passes and would still have engine temps around 200 to 217 by the time i got ready to leave the line.
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The 3 heat exchangers I have seen people use are

1. cooler logic
2. torq
3. KDI

I have yet to see data that compares them head to head.

Now if you are drag racing honestly the one chiller products is proabably going to be you best money spent though. no heat exchanger can go below ambient and there are days at the drag strip where ambient can be high.

I have seen video of iat2's in the 60's on 90 degree days. then maybe up to 100 degrees or so on the pass then right back down wile in the return lane.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:40 AM   #6
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tpower did you have to drill any hole to install HX and did you get with or without fans, and have you used it at drag strip yet? wondering how long of a cool down period before next pass. I waited about 30 minutes between passes and would still have engine temps around 200 to 217 by the time i got ready to leave the line.
no drilling required on any of these heat exchangers mentioned. they bolt into the stock location.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:17 AM   #7
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i ordered the kdi last week, it was dual pass and 4", i hadnt seen the torq unit but compared to the other ones the kdi one was a fair amount bigger
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:18 PM   #8
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The 3 heat exchangers I have seen people use are

1. cooler logic
2. torq
3. KDI

I have yet to see data that compares them head to head.

Now if you are drag racing honestly the one chiller products is proabably going to be you best money spent though. no heat exchanger can go below ambient and there are days at the drag strip where ambient can be high.

I have seen video of iat2's in the 60's on 90 degree days. then maybe up to 100 degrees or so on the pass then right back down wile in the return lane.
I went with a Super Chiller and will be posting results when we hit our usual 115* here in AZ.
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Old 01-21-2013, 01:47 PM   #9
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I saw video of someone driving around with super chiller, didn't like the ideal of it being tapped from AC unit. Prefer to keep warranty intack for a while and thought that unit would be a problem to remove and reinstall if had any type of warranty work to be done. It's a good concept though.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:02 PM   #10
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Interesting... I was told Keith is no longer in business.
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:44 PM   #11
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Correct me if I'm wrong but bigger doesnt always mean better...KDI is 4" thick..can't that be counter productive? Coolerlogic being 2.75" thick would this be sufficient?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but bigger doesnt always mean better...KDI is 4" thick..can't that be counter productive? Coolerlogic being 2.75" thick would this be sufficient?
It workes well from the data he posted Dig up his build threads on his personal car there were datalogs in there.

his car was running 10.20's without pulling any timing by the end of the run if I remember right. I think his iat's were in the 120's and the car was making a ton of power.

it is more money though so I see why the coolerlogic is appealing people don't less extreme builds.
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:33 PM   #13
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I went with a Super Chiller and will be posting results when we hit our usual 115* here in AZ.
Who did your install and did it void your warranty? Was it hard to put in and did you have any leaks? I have heard stories of someone in the phenix area that was having issues
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Old 08-05-2013, 11:49 PM   #14
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Has there been any testing to determine if these larger heat exchangers reduce the airflow and thus cooling to the engine coolant. I would imagine GM designed the stock HX to perform while not blocking airflow to the radiator. At some point you will be trading off better intercooler cooling for poorer engine cooling.
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Old 08-06-2013, 07:04 AM   #15
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Has there been any testing to determine if these larger heat exchangers reduce the airflow and thus cooling to the engine coolant. I would imagine GM designed the stock HX to perform while not blocking airflow to the radiator. At some point you will be trading off better intercooler cooling for poorer engine cooling.
That was my thought as well.
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Old 03-15-2014, 05:53 PM   #16
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Has there been any testing to determine if these larger heat exchangers reduce the airflow and thus cooling to the engine coolant. I would imagine GM designed the stock HX to perform while not blocking airflow to the radiator. At some point you will be trading off better intercooler cooling for poorer engine cooling.
Any more information on this? Anybody do testing on these heat exchangers?
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:49 PM   #17
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For drag racing
Maybe try a reservoir like Stephen12ZL1 has.
Use ice along with the HX to help for Drag racing.
Fill with ice and make a run, then drain any water and refill with ice for your next run.
Just bring ice in a cooler for racing.
DP3 makes a nice one that is easy to fill and drain for racing.
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Has there been any testing to determine if these larger heat exchangers reduce the airflow and thus cooling to the engine coolant. I would imagine GM designed the stock HX to perform while not blocking airflow to the radiator. At some point you will be trading off better intercooler cooling for poorer engine cooling.
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I like the D3 stuff, that hx looks like it works very well. Only thing is that thing is massive and super thick and covers almost all of the radiator! I'm afraid it'll inhibit engine cooling. That and the reservoir, while it's a work of art and awesome looking, I personally like more of the stealth approach and OEM look. Something like the Lingenfelter reservoir is right up my alley.

It's the hx itself I'm waiting to see some testing on. I'm very curious as to which one works the best and which one (aside from the stocker) blocks air to the radiator the least.
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Especially for street use and ¼ mile I would add AI Chiller to that list, nothing cools like refrigeration!
Yes I would expect Super Chiller could void AC warranty. Powertech Performance is local to me he is doing our first 2014 ZL1 AI Super Chiller installation in 2 weeks along with typical boost upgrades. This car will be tuned by Tampa Tuning, Phil should have Dyno feedback for us!
I also like the Lingenfelter reservoir.

Powertech does blower upgrades and much more for some of the local GM dealers, I know if it goes through the dealership they honor all factory warranty. I have had many customers all over the states tell me about dealerships that do upgrades and honor factory warranty one way or another but I believe this is done under the radar.

I know one situation where an engine was lost, the dealership bought a new computer so the flash counts would not show the car was performance tuned and GM covered the entire job. As said I believe this goes on under the radar and as long as the dealership is in good standing GM lets it slide.
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I tried googling at the brand names listed above and I could not find them on the Web. Could anyone provide a reliable link or a complete company name that might come up in a google search?.
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I tried googling at the brand names listed above and I could not find them on the Web. Could anyone provide a reliable link or a complete company name that might come up in a google search?.
This is the one I have ,just got finished wiring it up very easy directions,

http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.UyXDE_ldW8A
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Old 03-16-2014, 01:53 PM   #25
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Anybody use the Livernois heat exchanger? It's quite expensive compared to the others. Is there a reason for it or is it just overpriced?

I personally don't want to mess with chillers or anything that involves my A/C. I just want to simply improve upon the factory cooling.
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