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Old 03-15-2014, 09:18 PM   #18
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For drag racing
Maybe try a reservoir like Stephen12ZL1 has.
Use ice along with the HX to help for Drag racing.
Fill with ice and make a run, then drain any water and refill with ice for your next run.
Just bring ice in a cooler for racing.
DP3 makes a nice one that is easy to fill and drain for racing.
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Old 03-15-2014, 11:59 PM   #19
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I went with D3 goodies. See the link!
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Old 03-16-2014, 06:46 AM   #20
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Has there been any testing to determine if these larger heat exchangers reduce the airflow and thus cooling to the engine coolant. I would imagine GM designed the stock HX to perform while not blocking airflow to the radiator. At some point you will be trading off better intercooler cooling for poorer engine cooling.
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Old 03-16-2014, 07:38 AM   #21
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I like the D3 stuff, that hx looks like it works very well. Only thing is that thing is massive and super thick and covers almost all of the radiator! I'm afraid it'll inhibit engine cooling. That and the reservoir, while it's a work of art and awesome looking, I personally like more of the stealth approach and OEM look. Something like the Lingenfelter reservoir is right up my alley.

It's the hx itself I'm waiting to see some testing on. I'm very curious as to which one works the best and which one (aside from the stocker) blocks air to the radiator the least.
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:56 AM   #22
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Especially for street use and ¼ mile I would add AI Chiller to that list, nothing cools like refrigeration!
Yes I would expect Super Chiller could void AC warranty. Powertech Performance is local to me he is doing our first 2014 ZL1 AI Super Chiller installation in 2 weeks along with typical boost upgrades. This car will be tuned by Tampa Tuning, Phil should have Dyno feedback for us!
I also like the Lingenfelter reservoir.

Powertech does blower upgrades and much more for some of the local GM dealers, I know if it goes through the dealership they honor all factory warranty. I have had many customers all over the states tell me about dealerships that do upgrades and honor factory warranty one way or another but I believe this is done under the radar.

I know one situation where an engine was lost, the dealership bought a new computer so the flash counts would not show the car was performance tuned and GM covered the entire job. As said I believe this goes on under the radar and as long as the dealership is in good standing GM lets it slide.
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:31 AM   #23
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I tried googling at the brand names listed above and I could not find them on the Web. Could anyone provide a reliable link or a complete company name that might come up in a google search?.
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Old 03-16-2014, 11:29 AM   #24
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I tried googling at the brand names listed above and I could not find them on the Web. Could anyone provide a reliable link or a complete company name that might come up in a google search?.
This is the one I have ,just got finished wiring it up very easy directions,

http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...E#.UyXDE_ldW8A
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Old 03-16-2014, 02:53 PM   #25
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Anybody use the Livernois heat exchanger? It's quite expensive compared to the others. Is there a reason for it or is it just overpriced?

I personally don't want to mess with chillers or anything that involves my A/C. I just want to simply improve upon the factory cooling.
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Old 03-16-2014, 05:53 PM   #26
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I am the person TrekGto is building the SuperChiller for. I met with TrekGto (David) last Friday, and I was quite impressed with his device. He showed me all the components and explained to me in depth all aspects of how it worked and was easily installed without much if any intrusion. I expect to receive the SuperChiller in about 2 weeks, and I will all know how it went. It seems like it will be an excellent step to take, because whats the sense in making power upgrades, if it cannot maintain it due to heat soak from the intercooler?. One of the nicest things about David is when I met him to talk about the device, he wouldn't take any money from me upfront, he wanted to put the order together and then get paid. (not many people say no) when you waive a few hundred dollars in their face as a down payment. So in a few weeks I will post the outcome.
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Old 03-16-2014, 05:56 PM   #27
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That's funny when I talked to Dave he wanted a $400 deposit and a 2 month wait.
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Old 03-16-2014, 06:00 PM   #28
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Baer383, that unit you have does not tap into the A/C unit right?. It just replaces the stock heat exchanger or something?.
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Old 03-16-2014, 06:02 PM   #29
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Baer383, that unit you have does not tap into the A/C unit right?. It just replaces the stock heat exchanger or something?.
It replaces the stock HX and adds dual 11in fans
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Old 03-16-2014, 06:03 PM   #30
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it might have something to do with the fact I coincidentally and fortunately live about 5 miles away from him?. Ok that's what I thought Baer, well I really am sold on the idea of using the a/c to cool of the intercooler. Like I mentioned I will let everyone how this thing works out.
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:38 PM   #31
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got my attention emvici

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it might have something to do with the fact I coincidentally and fortunately live about 5 miles away from him?. Ok that's what I thought Baer, well I really am sold on the idea of using the a/c to cool of the intercooler. Like I mentioned I will let everyone how this thing works out.
i would also like to know because as of yet there isnt one person ive heard say that before the heat exchanger i ran this and after the heat exchanger i ran that. iam not into buying parts that dont work. screw that shit
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:45 AM   #32
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Another thing nobody has thought of yet is we can see a 10 degree (average) drop in temps with a larger HX but is this just because of more coolant volume that it holds and then has more coolant to heat up.

e.g. would adding a reservoir with the same/similar extra coolant volume have the same or similar effect to a very minor 10 degree drop in temps.

Further to this simple logic tells you that increasing the coolant volume will lower the temps and reservoirs are much cheaper than HX's + you can literally go crazy with them if you like adding gallons and gallons to the system, there is about 3-4 decent sized area's under the hood for them so you could have 3-4 reservoirs if you wanted to and you could even mount a very large unit in the trunk which i have seen 1 member on here already did for autocross racing.

Has anybody completed any comparisons to temps by having a decent sized reservoir added with before/after comparisons to temperature. If it isn't as effecting it will certainly have an effect and the amount of effect it has can be dictated simply by adding more coolant volume to how efficient it will be in reducing temps.
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:38 AM   #33
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I haven't had much luck in finding where anyone has posted any actual data either. KDI did about their heat exchanger, but I'd have to go back and find that post. A couple of builders that I trust and support this site have said that the stock system is much better than most here give it credit for. Everything else is just vendors and members pimping parts.
My car goes in for it's first round of mods next week, and I'll hopefully be at the track next friday night to do some testing of IAT2's on the stock h/x system. If they rise more than I'd like, I'll be adding some additional fluid capacity and I'll retest on my own.
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I haven't had much luck in finding where anyone has posted any actual data either. KDI did about their heat exchanger, but I'd have to go back and find that post. A couple of builders that I trust and support this site have said that the stock system is much better than most here give it credit for. Everything else is just vendors and members pimping parts.
My car goes in for it's first round of mods next week, and I'll hopefully be at the track next friday night to do some testing of IAT2's on the stock h/x system. If they rise more than I'd like, I'll be adding some additional fluid capacity and I'll retest on my own.
That would be good, i'd be interested to see what just adding a reservoir will do for temps....no doubt they will go down to some degree and also take a little longer to reach maximum temp since there is more volume to heat up.

I noticed rotofab offer 2 reservoirs wouldn't be hard to run both of them and have a lot more volume like that.
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