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Old 07-20-2009, 12:25 AM   #51
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That curvy road my friends is what the locals around around here call Turnbull Canyon road..it's almost literally my backyard. I love those turns on that hill but that road has become very dangerous with crime.

That thing took those turns beautifully..the Firehawk does okay on those turns but not as good as the Camaro.
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Old 07-20-2009, 12:42 AM   #52
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Where exactly is it located at? Ever run GMR?
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Old 07-20-2009, 05:04 AM   #53
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This is located off the 60 freeway towards the Hacienda Heights, Whittier area. Locals use the road to get to the Northern area of Whittier from Hacienda Heights.

No I've never ran GMR because I don't know what GMR is.

Gosh after looking at that video of the Camaro doing those turns pretty quick, that Camaro with a Hotchkis upgrade is sweet!!
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:42 AM   #54
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'bolt on Haul Ass" works for me.
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:26 PM   #55
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Has anyone on the forum put these puppies on a v6, how was the install and what difference did you notice from the install.
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:40 PM   #56
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Can't be balanced? I don't understand.... Your latter comment is true, just imagine it costs you a dollar every time you take a corner at speed
Sorry dude, I meant that the tires can't be rotated, not balanced. My Bad! I'm just concerned that since the tires can't be rotated from front to back and back to front on this car that adding sway bars is just gonna make me corner faster and wear my unrotated tires out much quicker. Pros and cons to everything!!!
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Old 07-24-2009, 02:06 AM   #57
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I had sways, springs & sub-frames on my 94 TA GT and only have springs on my 00 TA. I need to get off my lazy butt and get the sways & SFC's for the LS1.

At $430-$500, it's a worthwhile investment. As a matter of fact, anything that makes a vehicle more controllable is worthwhile.
You should get a watts link for your LS1 too, keeps the rear end planted around the corner better than any panhard rod. It also makes the solid axle a little smoother ride like an IRS car. Its about $650 and worth every penny for your 4th gen.
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:08 AM   #58
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You should get a watts link for your LS1 too, keeps the rear end planted around the corner better than any panhard rod. It also makes the solid axle a little smoother ride like an IRS car. Its about $650 and worth every penny for your 4th gen.
HUH! I never knew that. Good to know though
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Old 07-29-2009, 12:14 PM   #59
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Received mine today, i ordered from summit. they were backordered at first but they just arrived, took a week or two. They are still in box beside my headers since car isn't here. Can someone suggest once i get my car and these are installed what i should have the rear setting at since it has 3 options?
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:51 PM   #60
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Received mine today, i ordered from summit. they were backordered at first but they just arrived, took a week or two. They are still in box beside my headers since car isn't here. Can someone suggest once i get my car and these are installed what i should have the rear setting at since it has 3 options?
I'd say contact Hotchkis and ask them what they recommend as a starting point for a 2SS with staggered wheels.
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:55 PM   #61
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JP,

I have installed aftermarket swaybar sets on vehicles in the past and set them up for road racing and autocross courses. Hopefully this explanation is not oversimplified for you. If so, others may find it helpful.

Since the Hotchkis front bar is non-adjustable, you don't need to worry about any adjustments up there. You will be dealing with quite a bit more roll stiffness up front than the factory bar. The stiffer front bar will allow you to retain more of your static front camber since the suspension travel while cornering (roll) will be reduced. This should give you a higher cornering limit before the front end begins to push. A performance oriented alignment will help you get the most out of the swaybars.

As a general rule, the stiffer you set the rear bar, the more prone the vehicle will be to oversteer. This can happen both during power-on (accelerating out of a corner) and power-off (lifting off the throttle) situations. To keep things safe until you learn the new cornering limits of the car, I would recommend using the softest setting on the rear bar initially. This will help prevent getting into trouble if you suddenly lift off the thottle on an off-ramp at a decent rate of speed. You don't want the back end coming around on you when you don't expect it! After you learn how the car handles, you can move up to the stiffer settings on the rear bar.

The stock Camaro has quite a bit of understeer dialed in to keep things safe and predictable. Unfortunately this makes the car more difficult to hustle and reluctant to turn-in. Chevrolet would rather err on the safe side for the general public than have a bunch of Camaros ending up in the ditch due to twitchy handling.

After you install your bars, I would recommend taking the car to a local autocross to try out the handling and get used to the limits of the car in a safe environment.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:28 PM   #62
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That was very helpful and I appreciate any info. You mentioned allignment will it need to alligned after these are installed. I have never been on an autocross and have no idea where to find one, I purchased these because they were an upgrade for the ocassional curvy backroad I might encounter. So with that in mind would suggest I might just stick with the lowest setting. I have never had a true sports/musclecar other than my 68 and it doesn't even have power steering and I rarely drive it, so I'm not sure I would know the difference, if the lowest setting is a little safer that would be my bet.
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:21 PM   #63
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Great first post Tankrust. Welcome!

I'm not quite sure autocrossing will let you experience the limits of the Camaro, other than perhaps the visibility limits. With its size and heft, it might be more at home on a more open road course.

HPDEs are you friend there.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:50 AM   #64
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Stov,

Thanks for the welcome! I agree with you in that an autocross will be a challenge due to the limited outward visibility of the Camaro. However, due to the lower speeds involved than an HPDE, it is a safer venue to explore the effects of suspension modifications on vehicle handling. I have seen people set up their vehicles in a tail-happy manner, and proceed to put them off track during the first lap of a track day. Granted, either one of these is better than trying to explore the limits on a public road.

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It sounds as if you are wanting to improve the general handling characteristics of the vehicle. You may actually find the Camaro more than adequate in the handling department for your daily curvy road attacks. It can definitely hold its own for such a heavy vehicle. I would try the car for a while in stock configuration. If you decide you do not see a need for the swaybars, you will have no problem selling them on this forum.
As far as an alignment goes, it is not necessary to have one done after the swaybar installation. It will not change the factory alignment settings. An alignment is required to change from the factory specifications, which are designed with safe, predictable handling in mind. Increasing camber and altering the toe angle will produce a more lively car with higher cornering limits than stock, with a possible increase in tire wear and a slight reduction in straight line stability on the highway.
You can find information on local autocross clubs at the SCCA website. Look under the "SOLO" tab, and click "SOLO Events" on the left side of the screen".

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Wow that car is taking a good beating.
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