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Old 06-13-2009, 11:59 AM   #1
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Help - Zaino question

I wondered if after using the clay bar, do you have to "wipe" the residue off before you wash with the Zaino wash, or do you just wash the clay bar residue off...

If you do have to wipe it off first, I was curious why that is, as opposed to just washing it off.

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Old 06-13-2009, 12:06 PM   #2
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You do a section at a time 2x2 and once you clay that section take clean cotton rag and dry it.


Before using a Z-18 ClayBar™ on your car, you must thoroughly clean and dry your car to remove any loose dirt. Direct sunlight should not fall on your car's surface, and it's best if the work area is relatively cool to prevent rapid evaporation of the clay lubricant. Do not risk scratching your car; if you drop your clay bar, throw it away!


To use Z-18 ClayBar™, you spray a water-based lubricant on a small area of your car and rub the bar back and forth with light to medium pressure. If the lubricant begins to dry, you'll need to spray more. Z-18 is fairly sticky, and cannot be used dry. If you try using it dry, you'll make a big mess. We suggest mixing one cap full of Z-7 Show Car Wash with water in a 16 ounce spray bottle. Z-6 also works as a lubricant for Z-18 ClayBar, but Z-7 Show Car Wash is much more cost effective.


After a few passes with the Z-18 ClayBar™, rub your hand over the area to feel if the surface contamination was removed. Keep rubbing until all contamination bumps are gone. Finally, wipe the clay residue off with a soft terrycloth towel, and buff to a nice luster. Just like polishing with Zaino Show Car Polish, work in small areas.


Check your Z-18 ClayBar frequently for hard particles. When found, pick them off. Make it a habit to occasionally knead and reform the bar so that a fresh portion of the bar contacts your car's paint. If you drop your bar of clay on the ground, it's history. Toss it out. Don't take any chances, discard the clay bar if it becomes impregnated with grit.


Do not overuse. A single bar will do 3-4 medium size cars with moderate contamination. If you are removing heavy overspray or rail dust, use the bar once and throw it away.


When you're finished claying your car, you should wash it with Z-7 Show Car Wash to remove the lubricant film. Finally, seal your freshly cleaned paint with your choice of Z-2 Show Car Polish for Clear Coated Car Finishes, Z-3 Show Car Polish for Non-clear Coated Paint, or Z-5 Show Car Polish for Swirl Marks and Fine Scratches.
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Make sure the car is washed FIRST!!
Then like posted above, do a little area at a time, making sure the clay stays wet as you use it. After you do that section wash it off, but don't be too fussy about washing it off. After you do the whole car like that, it's best to wash the whole car again.
I, personally do not like the clay bars. I use a similar product which is MUCH easier to use, but is REAL expensive.
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Ok I have a noob question. I've never been really big into waxing a vehicle (always had trucks and the are supposed to get dirty LOL) but my camaro will be a totally diffrent animal. What exactly does the clay bar do for you that throwing a coat of wax on after washing and drying wont.
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Thank you. I made the mistake of doing the whole car and then trying to go back and wipe it off. So that may be why it is not coming off as easy as if I had done the small sections at a time. I was trying to save time but instead it made it harder. So I was wondering if I could just gently go ahead and wash the car to get it off, since I have to wash it afterwards anyway. I did wash the car first, and it is coming off and looking nice. But was trying to save some time. It wouldn't hurt to go ahead and wash it would it?
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:21 PM   #6
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On the new car it is supposed to get rid of the rail dust, but also any other contaminents that may be stuck to the paint. I did the whole Zaino system on my G35 that was 4 years old. It was amazing the difference it made. The paint was smooth again instead of feeling rough. It was pretty amazing...
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Ok I have a noob question. I've never been really big into waxing a vehicle (always had trucks and the are supposed to get dirty LOL) but my camaro will be a totally diffrent animal. What exactly does the clay bar do for you that throwing a coat of wax on after washing and drying wont.
It gets your paint ready to be polished/waxed it makes a big differents


Quickly and safely removes contamination. Makes your paint feel smooth as glass!

Z-18 ClayBar™ is a pliable, synthetic bar that quickly and safely removes imbedded contamination from all glass and painted surfaces. Used for years by automobile manufacturers and auto body shops, paint cleaning clay is an excellent choice for removing contamination that cannot be removed using conventional cleaning methods.
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Quickly and safely removes contamination. Makes your paint feel smooth as glass!

Z-18 ClayBar™ is a pliable, synthetic bar that quickly and safely removes imbedded contamination from all glass and painted surfaces. Used for years by automobile manufacturers and auto body shops, paint cleaning clay is an excellent choice for removing contamination that cannot be removed using conventional cleaning methods.
Ah I see well I guess I will have to get me one LOL I dont even want to think about how much money I have dropped on stuff for the car I don't even have yet LOL. Keeps me from getting frustrated waiting.
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Make sure the car is washed FIRST!!
Then like posted above, do a little area at a time, making sure the clay stays wet as you use it. After you do that section wash it off, but don't be too fussy about washing it off. After you do the whole car like that, it's best to wash the whole car again.
I, personally do not like the clay bars. I use a similar product which is MUCH easier to use, but is REAL expensive.
Good luck!!
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Thank you. I made the mistake of doing the whole car and then trying to go back and wipe it off. So that may be why it is not coming off as easy as if I had done the small sections at a time. I was trying to save time but instead it made it harder. So I was wondering if I could just gently go ahead and wash the car to get it off, since I have to wash it afterwards anyway. I did wash the car first, and it is coming off and looking nice. But was trying to save some time. It wouldn't hurt to go ahead and wash it would it?
Go back and spray the Z-6 on it to get it wet enough and wipe it dry, should be fine just go back spray one panel at a time then dry it. I don't think it would hurt to go back and wash the car again, but if that doesn't work hit one panel at a time with Z-6 and dry it then with a cotton towel. Make sure you buff it dry

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Will do, thanks 69 hugger!!!
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I ordered the ZFX and Z2 along with a a couple app pads for starters. Shipped is was just over 50 bucks...

Question is... should I get the clay bar and use prior to this treatment or can I get the bar later when the temps are a bit cooler here?

I have noticed on my first washes a lot of black residue (I'm guessing rail dust) on my car. Don't want to seal that in and defeat the purpose of clay.

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I ordered the ZFX and Z2 along with a a couple app pads for starters. Shipped is was just over 50 bucks...

Question is... should I get the clay bar and use prior to this treatment or can I get the bar later when the temps are a bit cooler here?

I have noticed on my first washes a lot of black residue (I'm guessing rail dust) on my car. Don't want to seal that in and defeat the purpose of clay.

Thanks in advance.
If your getting rail dust when you wash the car I'd clay it for sure, They have a car wash soap thats very good. I'd get both
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I haven't used the Z-18 product, but, I have used Meguiar's clay bar product. I found it to be excellent! Doing small sections at a time is the easiest way, then waxing and buffing. I used it on my '05 Grand Prix GTP and was amazed at the crap that came off the paint.
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If your getting rail dust when you wash the car I'd clay it for sure, They have a car wash soap thats very good. I'd get both
Then I'm going to have to wait or get a window unit for my garage... It's freaking hot out here in Texas now.... or better yet... pay someone to do it for me LOL

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We have very very very hard water where we live will that have an effect on the effectiveness of a clay bar treatment?
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I don't think you'll have a problem if you mix it like the direction say. Normally you use 1 cap full of Z-7 to one gallon of water when you wash your car. directions say 1 cap full to 16/ounces of water when your claying, so I wouldn't think hard water would effect it. I've never used it like that, when claying I normally use straight detailer and do one section at a time. I just started with Zaino a few months back,, I've used Maguires for ever but zaino is the stuff. Good luck www.zainostore.com
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Does anyone know how many car applications you can get out of one of the zaino car kits?
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Old 06-13-2009, 08:47 PM   #19
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Does anyone know how many car applications you can get out of one of the zaino car kits?

I have put about 13 coats on my Envoy ,9 on my mothers Xd,and 5 on my cousins CX7,and still have plenty of polish left to put about 12 coats on my Camaro when it comes in.When you polish with Zaino you have to use VERY thin coats.


I also use the Zaino car wash as the lubricant for the clay bar,and can do the entire car before having to wash it off.It doesn't leave ANY residue at all.


If you are going to polish the car i STONGLY recommend that you clay bar it first.If you do not get the rail dust and other contaminant's ,you run the risk of inducing swirl marks into the paint.
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Procedure I used pretty much mimicked Zaino's directions. I washed the car with dawn soap. This removed any wax on the car, as well as most of the debris. You'll only do this step on your very first wash, never again. Then with the mix of z7 wash and water in a spray bottle I claybared the car, roughly doing it in 2'-2' sections. Like Nexus6 said, it left no residue, just a bunch of streaks. Once finished claying I washed the car with the z7 mix, came out perfectly clean. Don't forget to inspect your clay often, you'll be amazed by how much junk comes off the car when it looks pefectly clean.
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I have put about 13 coats on my Envoy ,9 on my mothers Xd,and 5 on my cousins CX7,and still have plenty of polish left to put about 12 coats on my Camaro when it comes in.When you polish with Zaino you have to use VERY thin coats.


I also use the Zaino car wash as the lubricant for the clay bar,and can do the entire car before having to wash it off.It doesn't leave ANY residue at all.


If you are going to polish the car i STONGLY recommend that you clay bar it first.If you do not get the rail dust and other contaminant's ,you run the risk of inducing swirl marks into the paint.
Do you know if there are any special instructions when considering vinyl stripes? Should the stripes be put on prior to or after the first application?
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Do the Zaino kits come with step by step directions for dummies, and when using the clay , what type of motion??
My IOM has some contaminate spots that didn't wipe clean with a wash...definitely something a little more than water spots, I wouldn't let the dealer wax the car and I don't want to leave this crud on the car too long.
I ordered the ultimate show car kit but don't wanna mess up the paint, this IOM seems like a color that you don't wanna make any mistakes with.
I've never done anything other than a wax a car...and I'm also hesitant about having someone else do this process to my car as well.

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There are instructions for each product. In addition the website has a complete walk-through that should be very useful as well.

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Do you know if there are any special instructions when considering vinyl stripes? Should the stripes be put on prior to or after the first application?

That i am not sure about.i do know they are going to clean the parts where the vinyl will go.That being said i dont think it's a good idea to have polish UNDER the vinyl stripes,but that is just a guess.I'm going to assume its the same as the clear bra.If you do decide to do it you may have to re-do it cause i dont know what the installer is going to use to clean the surface.
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Why does zaino not offer a car wax?
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