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Old 01-23-2013, 06:31 PM   #1
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*Insiders Look* Upcoming Pfadt Featherlight Mag-Ride ZL1 Coilovers...

As many of you already know, the engineering design, product development, and product assembly is all done in-house in Pfadt's facility in Utah. No waiting for parts to come from overseas for assembly.

Just got an inside line on these Pfadt Featherlight ZL1 Coilovers... As most of you already know, the ZL1 comes equipped with the magnetic stability option, which is a great factory feature. However, when going to any aftermarket coilover set, you lose the ability to use the "mag-ride" . Pfadt has now incorporated the stock mag-ride with the ultimate set of coilovers, for factory adjust-ability with race quality handling!

A little birdie leaked me some pictures of the NEW Pfadt ZL1 Mag-Ride Coilovers. Take notice in the pictures of the mag-ride inserts and the wiring coming from the lower shock body.
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Old 01-23-2013, 07:19 PM   #2
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Not to be disrespectful or dismissive of this product but I do have a question. Probably the most technically advanced and highest performance piece of the ZL1 that sets it apart from most of the muscle car world is its suspension and handling. What is trying to be achieved with these aftermarket suspension components that significantly improve one of the main reasons to buy a ZL1? Not trying to be argumentative as I am truly interested in the purpose of such an item.
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Old 01-23-2013, 07:52 PM   #3
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Not to be disrespectful or dismissive of this product but I do have a question. Probably the most technically advanced and highest performance piece of the ZL1 that sets it apart from most of the muscle car world is its suspension and handling. What is trying to be achieved with these aftermarket suspension components that significantly improve one of the main reasons to buy a ZL1? Not trying to be argumentative as I am truly interested in the purpose of such an item.
Not taking it as argumentative, I'm glad that you have asked such a question actually.

That question can be posed about pretty much any upgrade on any car. The car already comes with a suspension, why replace it? The answer is plain and simple: pure performance.

Flatter cornering, less deflection in the suspension joints and more consistent grip levels associated with the contact patch being planted on the pavement. The OEM suspension is fantastic, no doubt about it. But there are many concessions made in the interest of mass production and cost cutting that leave there more to be desired. Plus most cars from the factory are set up relatively soft which can overload the outside tires in a turn. One way to get the car to perform better is to simply get each tire perform more equal work when going around a turn and you do that by stiffening things up a big with bigger anti-roll bars and coilovers with upgrade spring rates, to name a few. This is stuff that the factory can not install for a variety of reasons, some having to do with costs and other associated with perceived ride quality.

The adjustable coilovers in this thread actually RETAIN the full functioning Mag ride system that you bought the ZL1 for but makes it lighter weight, and adds ride height adjustability and stiffer spring rates to hold the car up a bit more in turns and lower it to the ground for a slightly better aero profile and flatter cornering. All of this contributes towards more grip and better performance.

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Old 01-24-2013, 12:37 PM   #4
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:54 PM   #5
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I have been hoping Pfadt would make these available. Any idea on the time frame.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:55 PM   #6
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Package price please?

This may be exactly what I need for my 2013 ZL1. I have been researching suspension products for the ZL1. There seems to be two suspension companies Pfadt and Pedders vying for the ZL1 business. They both have different theories on how it should work installed on the Camaro which is beneficial for all of us. I want to get the ride height down just a slight bit but retain the function of the Mag ride shocks! I also want better handling from the vehicle when pushed hard. I will be waiting for more information and feedback from users. I had heard a rumor that something like this was in the works.

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:38 PM   #7
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:08 PM   #10
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Hey guys.. Technically these pictures should not have been seen yet. So I have no pricing nor release date.

I don't even know who any of you are actually..
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Hey guys.. Technically these pictures should not have been seen yet. So I have no pricing nor release date.

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Old 01-25-2013, 08:37 AM   #12
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Hey guys.. Technically these pictures should not have been seen yet. So I have no pricing nor release date.

I don't even know who any of you are actually..
So then why put the post up ?
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So then why put the post up ?
Would you rather not have seen the pictures? As soon as I have the information we will release it guys. For now enjoy the coilover porn!

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Old 01-25-2013, 10:58 PM   #14
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very cool. on a side note it is funny to see another ZL1 with the black wheels that have a crappy finish on them. that rim lip should be black not silver lol.
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Old 01-26-2013, 03:34 AM   #15
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very cool. on a side note it is funny to see another ZL1 with the black wheels that have a crappy finish on them. that rim lip should be black not silver lol.
Not when you drive it like it was made to be driven. Its called dirt and tends to gather on various parts of the car when actually driven. While this does tend to turn the underside a bit dull looking, when driven properly, you are left with one helluva smile a.k.a "perma grin"
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driven properly and not washed the brakes leave a dark gray dust, not a solid silver lip with a black scuff mark on it. If you have the black rim option on yours please look at yours you will be suprised.
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Yep, my black rims are lacking paint on the inside of the rim. Poor spray job.
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My black rims are think paint too. But I don't really care.

Thanks for the pictures, looks like a great product. I'll be watching for updates.
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Not to be disrespectful or dismissive of this product but I do have a question. Probably the most technically advanced and highest performance piece of the ZL1 that sets it apart from most of the muscle car world is its suspension and handling. What is trying to be achieved with these aftermarket suspension components that significantly improve one of the main reasons to buy a ZL1? Not trying to be argumentative as I am truly interested in the purpose of such an item.
Well said!

I want to see the same driver, on the same course, on the same day, driving the same car, running this setup against the stock setup for starters. It will be a cold day in before I screw with the mag ride. when people ask me about my ZL1, the first thing out of my mouth is always about the suspension. Lots of cars have power, only a select few have Magnetic Ride Control! I think posting pictures of the concept is fine, but be prepared to back it with tons of data if you intend to sway the masses. Too many companies try and put the spin on what already works just to sell parts.
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Well said, I've seen the same all of my 35 years of drag racing ad street racing but the masses always fall for it... It always amuses me to think that an after parts manufacturer thinks they can improve on the R&D of GM or Ford spending thousands instead of millions on development. Just saying !

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Well said!

I want to see the same driver, on the same course, on the same day, driving the same car, running this setup against the stock setup for starters. It will be a cold day in before I screw with the mag ride. when people ask me about my ZL1, the first thing out of my mouth is always about the suspension. Lots of cars have power, only a select few have Magnetic Ride Control! I think posting pictures of the concept is fine, but be prepared to back it with tons of data if you intend to sway the masses. Too many companies try and put the spin on what already works just to sell parts.

So you are saying that (Pfadt) are promoting "snake oil"? I just want to see installs and hear feedback from owners that HAVE the Pfadt SHOCKS on their ZL1's. It seems these will still give you the same ride but with height adjustability. I guess I'm along with the "show me" side of the board.
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Old 01-26-2013, 03:32 PM   #22
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Definetly interested in these. Have been waiting paitently for some one to release something like this. I want to Lower mine down about 2 inches but didn't want to blow out the factory shocks with lowering springs.
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Well said!

I want to see the same driver, on the same course, on the same day, driving the same car, running this setup against the stock setup for starters. It will be a cold day in before I screw with the mag ride. when people ask me about my ZL1, the first thing out of my mouth is always about the suspension. Lots of cars have power, only a select few have Magnetic Ride Control! I think posting pictures of the concept is fine, but be prepared to back it with tons of data if you intend to sway the masses. Too many companies try and put the spin on what already works just to sell parts.
I agree.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:17 PM   #24
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I can see the benefit of this system... coilovers have function in that they are adjustable (ride height) for different tracks if you are racing plus they make the car look good. Personally, I'm not racing my ZL1 but I did want the look of a "lowered car" and more traction when I hit up some trackdays or push it a little in the canyons, so I added the PFADT lowering springs (and rear tie rod/trailing arms) which work 100% with the magnetic ride suspension too and have a stiffer spring rate than stock too. For those that don't want to pay the extra cash for an adjustable coilover setup like this, you may want to go the route I went
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Well said!

I want to see the same driver, on the same course, on the same day, driving the same car, running this setup against the stock setup for starters. It will be a cold day in before I screw with the mag ride. when people ask me about my ZL1, the first thing out of my mouth is always about the suspension. Lots of cars have power, only a select few have Magnetic Ride Control! I think posting pictures of the concept is fine, but be prepared to back it with tons of data if you intend to sway the masses. Too many companies try and put the spin on what already works just to sell parts.

Hey man I 100% agree with you. I can say this, unlike most of the suspension companies, Pfadt will provide FULL data on street, AND track for all of their products. If you notice on their website, almost every product that has "data" behind it is posted. From sway bar stiffness tests not only on their own products, but competitors, and General Motors components, to videos of product development/engineering.

The Pfadt springs do work well on the stock shocks, but this will take you one step further. We have been seeing more and more ZL1's being setup for street and HPDE road course days, this is the perfect combination of ride and handling with adjust-ability for street to track.

Stay tuned!
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