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Old 01-28-2013, 11:38 PM   #1
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Ready to buy!! But do I go V6 and turbo/sc or just get an SS..What would you do?

New to this forum but have been snooping for a while

Well I have about 30k to spend and heres what I was thinking

V6: Go with a 2LT cost about 20k give or take that leaves 10k for mods
then do a turbo or supercharger
exhaust
rims/tires
hood/bumpers/ground effects
radio
and in the end have a nice custom with a good amount of power

or

Just go with a 2ss anywhere from 26k-30k
leaves not much for customizing right away
and kinda could get lost in a parking lot BUT starting with a 6.2l

Im torn its going to be my wifes car. She drives 30miles a day round trip to work this WILL be her daily driver ( just south of chicago) I'm happy right around 400hp and if I get the ss I wont touch the motor other than maybe intake and exhaust. But the v6 with FI can get just about the same hp with better mpg.

SO if you did it all over again would you still go with a v6 or skip right to the v8. I love the sound of any FI but if I get the ss there's no way I will give her even more hp she already has a heavy foot.

I just need some honest advice I have many years of automotive background, And have a paint booth in my garage so labor for most mods will be all me.......Just cant make up my mind
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:45 PM   #2
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If you're completely content with 400 hp and you're sure you won't mod the v8 then get the v8. Reason I say this is because it's very hard to stop once you start. So if you get the v6 and turbo or supercharge it you're just going to want more after you feel it. Then you're going to end up wanting the v8 later. If you don't mod the v8, you'll be content with power and can mod the exterior and make it look really good one mod at a time.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:46 PM   #3
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:47 PM   #4
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I have this same problem except not that much cash yet. Go V8 and when you get the money, mod th V8.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:54 PM   #5
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Thats kinda what I was leaning towards, I have a ram srt-10 and cant wait to supercharge it but gotta make the wife happy first. And I guess in the long run if she gets board of the v8 a turbo or two could fix that. I do understand maxing out on the v6 eventual I just wanted to know what other v6 owners thought.
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Why not give her the srt-10 and keep the camaro for yourself

You could supercharge the camaro and have a really really fun car
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:14 AM   #7
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Why not give her the srt-10 and keep the camaro for yourself

You could supercharge the camaro and have a really really fun car
I already offered I found a 800hp srt10 for about the same price as the camaros were looking at...she didn't find me funny. Also I only get about 9mpg avg. For me that's fine I have a work truck and winter beater but she needs decent mpg and reliability.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:22 AM   #8
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Or here's an idea..... get her the v6 and you buy a v8.....


Nah just kidding. But to not get off topic, definitely go v8 first. That way you have a great amount of power to begin with and have a great platform to build off. There are tons of parts for the v8 as opposed to barely any for the v6. For the newer v6s, you have intake, exhaust, throttle body, and then you just have forced induction after that. Those are basically all the options out right now
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:29 AM   #9
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I love my V6... But I bought it for gas mileage with decent power and insurance... If its power you want, go V8.... You will definitely love it's power! I find myself getting the V8 itch now and then and you just can't beat the sound of a V8!
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:31 AM   #10
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For the newer v6s, you have intake, exhaust, throttle body, and then you just have forced induction after that. Those are basically all the options out right now
And wheels and tires, brakes, suspension, sub-frame mounts, differential mounts, clutches, driveshafts, rear ends, forged internals, cams and whatever else I left out.

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Old 01-29-2013, 12:45 AM   #11
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v8 with a nice exhaust for sure dude. imo. what do YOU want to do?
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:54 AM   #12
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you can make a mean V6 but it wont sound mean :P not to mention it will have its limits where as an SS will have limits but much higher limits :P
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And wheels and tires, brakes, suspension, sub-frame mounts, differential mounts, clutches, driveshafts, rear ends, forged internals, cams and whatever else I left out.

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I was only mentioning parts for added power. There are no aftermarket rear ends. Its the v8 stock one. Forged internals are useless unless you run boost. Cams are out but no concrete data yet. Not to mention the price it would take to get them being you probably have to pay for install because of the complexity of it.
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I'm 17 years old. Have a 1lt camaro, and i've had it for a year and a few months. (Sept. 3rd, 2011) and I am already used to its power and want more. But i don't want to put a SC or TT kit in it to just sell and get a V8. I will get an SS ASAP. If you have the money, do it. Or you will get bored with its power.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:24 AM   #15
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I was only mentioning parts for added power. There are no aftermarket rear ends. Its the v8 stock one. Forged internals are useless unless you run boost. Cams are out but no concrete data yet. Not to mention the price it would take to get them being you probably have to pay for install because of the complexity of it.
Sure, there are rear ends, as well as different gears, available. Half shafts and driveshafts, too. And a clutch. Gonna need 'em, right?

Forged internals, cams, etc. are a lot easier (cheaper) to install before the engine grenades under boost, so why not build it stout from scratch?

Did I mention a brand new 1LS can be had for around 22K + TTL, bla bla?

For the same price as an SS, you can have a one-of-a-kind. Or you can have a built-on-the-line. But that's just my twisted thinking.

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Sure, there are rear ends, as well as different gears, available. Half shafts and driveshafts, too. And a clutch. Gonna need 'em, right?

Forged internals, cams, etc. are a lot easier (cheaper) to install before the engine grenades under boost, so why not build it stout from scratch?

Did I mention a brand new 1LS can be had for around 22K + TTL, bla bla?

For the same price as an SS, you can have a one-of-a-kind. Or you can have a built-on-the-line. But that's just my twisted thinking.

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What rear ends are there? Aftermarket ones?

I completely understand your way of thinking. But the cams havent been proven to be a worthwhile mod yet.

I understand the want to build something way different but the thing is the v6 has fuel problems. You might make 500 hp but thats pretty much doing as much as you can.

The ls3 or l99 at 500 hp is just barely breaking a sweat
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go v8 dude better platform to work on eventually. Better platform to stick with as well and its fuel economy is actually pretty great
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:33 AM   #18
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For most people, ~500 HP is more than they will ever use. I wanted the extra HP and need the MPGs. My car is getting 24-26 on combined driving. There is no way the SS is going to match it.
If you want a DD with significant power and still get good MPGs an SC or TT is a great option.
I also love the fact that I did the upgrade and it is unique.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:34 AM   #19
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Go with the ss because you dont want to be one that buys a LT and isn't content, so a few months later you trade it in for an SS. I have a LT and I thought it would be awesome to have a TT v6 but at the same time it just wont have the sound and torque of a SS.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:59 AM   #21
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Point 1: She has a lead foot so you don't want too much power
Point 2: She drives a lot

May I suggest you have her drive a V6. If she likes it, then you can put the rest of the money in the bank and start savings toward a high HP vehicle you want.
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I'm 17 years old. Have a 1lt camaro, and i've had it for a year and a few months. (Sept. 3rd, 2011) and I am already used to its power and want more. But i don't want to put a SC or TT kit in it to just sell and get a V8. I will get an SS ASAP. If you have the money, do it. Or you will get bored with its power.
A SC'd and especially a TT V6 is just as fast or faster than a stock SS, so with your statement, its like saying you will eventually get bored with the SS power as well, and just end up modding it.

Sounds like you want 500+HP at the wheels or else you think your going to be bored, when in reality you'll never come close utilizing that power except at the strip.

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Go with the ss because you dont want to be one that buys a LT and isn't content, so a few months later you trade it in for an SS. I have a LT and I thought it would be awesome to have a TT v6 but at the same time it just wont have the sound and torque of a SS.
Your right...it will have more torque than an SS.

As for the OP. The crowd is leaning very heavily towards just getting an SS, and I'd say if you want to go the easiest, and most reliably way I would have to agree with them.

Otherwise if you want something a bit more unique, with a still great but unique sound (LT headers or shorty headers with ARK DTS exhaust for example), with good power and still fairly reliable go for the IPF SC kit on the V6.

There are still very few supercharged V6s in the grand scheme of things, and two of those have gone 12.8 - 12.9 in the quarter mile on stock tires. In my mind this puts it squarely in between an L99 SS and an LS3, and probably closer to the LS3 considering out of ALL the stock L99 times on this site, only 3 or 4 of them have ran into the 12s.

The TTV6 is capable of making A LOT more power still, but for the 2010-2011 models years, I wouldn't want that on a daily driver as they seem to require much more monitoring and work. On the 2012+ V6s, they are probably more reliable (b/c of being easier to tune correctly) but overall still more care required than the IPF SC kit.

Thats my .02.

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Old 01-29-2013, 11:01 AM   #24
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I was thinking v6 only for one reason, in 2004 I bought a new gto it was the best Pontiac had to offer and it only had 350hp and then that was fast for a stock car. now the v6 is 300hp and I'm sure with some small mods it would be right up there with the gto. So speed isn't so much of an issue to me. both v6 and v8 are fast enough for a DD but in the overall plan I guess going v8 is a better choice rather build up to v8 HP and max out early on I can mod it whenever we get bored with it and continue to be happy. I appreciate everyone helping out and I'm sure were going to go ss now. Thanks again ill post some pics up of whatever we end up buying.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:03 AM   #25
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V8.. No replacement for displacement!! Logically though why buy a v6 and turbo charge it to make it as fast as a v8. Then you have suspension work to do.. Tires etc.. And you will never get the V8 exhaust note..
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