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Old 01-29-2013, 08:33 AM   #18
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For most people, ~500 HP is more than they will ever use. I wanted the extra HP and need the MPGs. My car is getting 24-26 on combined driving. There is no way the SS is going to match it.
If you want a DD with significant power and still get good MPGs an SC or TT is a great option.
I also love the fact that I did the upgrade and it is unique.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:34 AM   #19
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SS. Don't over-think it.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:35 AM   #20
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Go with the ss because you dont want to be one that buys a LT and isn't content, so a few months later you trade it in for an SS. I have a LT and I thought it would be awesome to have a TT v6 but at the same time it just wont have the sound and torque of a SS.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:59 AM   #21
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Point 1: She has a lead foot so you don't want too much power
Point 2: She drives a lot

May I suggest you have her drive a V6. If she likes it, then you can put the rest of the money in the bank and start savings toward a high HP vehicle you want.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:36 AM   #22
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I'm 17 years old. Have a 1lt camaro, and i've had it for a year and a few months. (Sept. 3rd, 2011) and I am already used to its power and want more. But i don't want to put a SC or TT kit in it to just sell and get a V8. I will get an SS ASAP. If you have the money, do it. Or you will get bored with its power.
A SC'd and especially a TT V6 is just as fast or faster than a stock SS, so with your statement, its like saying you will eventually get bored with the SS power as well, and just end up modding it.

Sounds like you want 500+HP at the wheels or else you think your going to be bored, when in reality you'll never come close utilizing that power except at the strip.

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Go with the ss because you dont want to be one that buys a LT and isn't content, so a few months later you trade it in for an SS. I have a LT and I thought it would be awesome to have a TT v6 but at the same time it just wont have the sound and torque of a SS.
Your right...it will have more torque than an SS.

As for the OP. The crowd is leaning very heavily towards just getting an SS, and I'd say if you want to go the easiest, and most reliably way I would have to agree with them.

Otherwise if you want something a bit more unique, with a still great but unique sound (LT headers or shorty headers with ARK DTS exhaust for example), with good power and still fairly reliable go for the IPF SC kit on the V6.

There are still very few supercharged V6s in the grand scheme of things, and two of those have gone 12.8 - 12.9 in the quarter mile on stock tires. In my mind this puts it squarely in between an L99 SS and an LS3, and probably closer to the LS3 considering out of ALL the stock L99 times on this site, only 3 or 4 of them have ran into the 12s.

The TTV6 is capable of making A LOT more power still, but for the 2010-2011 models years, I wouldn't want that on a daily driver as they seem to require much more monitoring and work. On the 2012+ V6s, they are probably more reliable (b/c of being easier to tune correctly) but overall still more care required than the IPF SC kit.

Thats my .02.

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Old 01-29-2013, 11:54 AM   #23
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Very well stated !
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:01 PM   #24
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I was thinking v6 only for one reason, in 2004 I bought a new gto it was the best Pontiac had to offer and it only had 350hp and then that was fast for a stock car. now the v6 is 300hp and I'm sure with some small mods it would be right up there with the gto. So speed isn't so much of an issue to me. both v6 and v8 are fast enough for a DD but in the overall plan I guess going v8 is a better choice rather build up to v8 HP and max out early on I can mod it whenever we get bored with it and continue to be happy. I appreciate everyone helping out and I'm sure were going to go ss now. Thanks again ill post some pics up of whatever we end up buying.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:03 PM   #25
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V8.. No replacement for displacement!! Logically though why buy a v6 and turbo charge it to make it as fast as a v8. Then you have suspension work to do.. Tires etc.. And you will never get the V8 exhaust note..
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There is always something about putting a V8 in the rear view mirror that keeps me grinning ear to ear..... and for alot less cash.....
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:20 PM   #27
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There is always something about putting a V8 in the rear view mirror that keeps me grinning ear to ear..... and for alot less cash.....

And a lot less warrenty
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:22 PM   #28
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And a lot less warrenty
gotta pay to play with whatever route you go, a tune voids that in a V8 too. plus it helps to have a good dealer that understands mods, hey if I blow it, at least I will know the weak link, Still will have less in it than a V8.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:27 PM   #29
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V8.. No replacement for displacement!! Logically though why buy a v6 and turbo charge it to make it as fast as a v8. Then you have suspension work to do.. Tires etc.. And you will never get the V8 exhaust note..


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Old 01-29-2013, 12:35 PM   #30
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I guess this also depends on how much he plans to mod and what the wife wants since its going to be her car.
I had a lot of fun in my WRX that was heavily modified and was a lot faster than my SS stock but there is something about a v8 Exhaust note and instant power, no turbo lag that is very appealing to me. I would much rather have a V8 Supercharged over a V6 Turbo.

It's all a matter of preference.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:45 PM   #31
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That's great that you post a time slip for my first time at the track in the heaviest camaro avaliable that is completely stock besides mufflers. I don't see how that is revelant to his question at all.
I didn't quote his question, I quoted you. Let me do it again and show you where the problem is.

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V8.. No replacement for displacement!! Logically though why buy a v6 and turbo charge it to make it as fast as a v8. Then you have suspension work to do.. Tires etc.. And you will never get the V8 exhaust note..
1) You barely ran a stock V6 time, so driving skill is a replacement for displacement.

2) Go look at the times some of the FI guys are putting down. FI is a replacement for displacement.

3) Think about a Nissan GTR, only 3.8 L and it can take on a ZL1. Technology and dollars are a replacement for displacement.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:48 PM   #32
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heres a thought because threads like this never end up right. get the car you want. to me a v8 exhaust note is just that a note not a reason to buy a car. if you want a 660 + hp car you still would neeed suspension part and even if you do a cam on a v8 you will need them. if you want to be diffrent then turbo/sc your v6. as far as a dd see pic cruise 65 and 70 for 40 miles to make sure i was not seeing things and has the power of the v8
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1) You barely ran a stock V6 time, so driving skill is a replacement for displacement.

2) Go look at the times some of the FI guys are putting down. FI is a replacement for displacement.

3) Think about a Nissan GTR, only 3.8 L and it can take on a ZL1. Technology and dollars are a replacement for displacement.
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Okay GTR vs ZL1 is not even close to the same thing. For one the GTR is AWD and specificlly made to be on a road course and the tech in that car is extremely different than a ZL1.
You can turbo charge your V6 camaro all day long it wont be a GTR or anything like one.
You quoted me but you evidently didn't read it all. Let me highlight it for you.

So, I never said it would be a GTR or anything like one. However, I hope to be able to put down similar 1/4 mile times to a stock one. Still need to get some more fuel to mine, but I'm already putting down more power and my suspension mods are pretty good for the strip. Slap on the slicks and skinnies and I've got a good shot at low 11s and maybe high 10s as it is. We'll see real soon.

BTW the ZL1 is sold as a road course ready car, not a drag strip car, so it is a fair comparison from that stand point. If you want to argue that an additional $30K in mods to the ZL1 would make it faster than a stock GTR, then fine but that's another point I made isn't it???

Times have changed. Displacement doesn't matter as much as it used to.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:18 PM   #34
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How much does a GTR cost? How much does a ZL1 cost? They aren't the same.
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