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Old 01-29-2013, 11:08 AM   #26
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There is always something about putting a V8 in the rear view mirror that keeps me grinning ear to ear..... and for alot less cash.....
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:20 AM   #27
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There is always something about putting a V8 in the rear view mirror that keeps me grinning ear to ear..... and for alot less cash.....

And a lot less warrenty
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:22 AM   #28
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And a lot less warrenty
gotta pay to play with whatever route you go, a tune voids that in a V8 too. plus it helps to have a good dealer that understands mods, hey if I blow it, at least I will know the weak link, Still will have less in it than a V8.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:27 AM   #29
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V8.. No replacement for displacement!! Logically though why buy a v6 and turbo charge it to make it as fast as a v8. Then you have suspension work to do.. Tires etc.. And you will never get the V8 exhaust note..


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Old 01-29-2013, 11:35 AM   #30
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I guess this also depends on how much he plans to mod and what the wife wants since its going to be her car.
I had a lot of fun in my WRX that was heavily modified and was a lot faster than my SS stock but there is something about a v8 Exhaust note and instant power, no turbo lag that is very appealing to me. I would much rather have a V8 Supercharged over a V6 Turbo.

It's all a matter of preference.
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That's great that you post a time slip for my first time at the track in the heaviest camaro avaliable that is completely stock besides mufflers. I don't see how that is revelant to his question at all.
I didn't quote his question, I quoted you. Let me do it again and show you where the problem is.

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V8.. No replacement for displacement!! Logically though why buy a v6 and turbo charge it to make it as fast as a v8. Then you have suspension work to do.. Tires etc.. And you will never get the V8 exhaust note..
1) You barely ran a stock V6 time, so driving skill is a replacement for displacement.

2) Go look at the times some of the FI guys are putting down. FI is a replacement for displacement.

3) Think about a Nissan GTR, only 3.8 L and it can take on a ZL1. Technology and dollars are a replacement for displacement.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:48 AM   #32
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heres a thought because threads like this never end up right. get the car you want. to me a v8 exhaust note is just that a note not a reason to buy a car. if you want a 660 + hp car you still would neeed suspension part and even if you do a cam on a v8 you will need them. if you want to be diffrent then turbo/sc your v6. as far as a dd see pic cruise 65 and 70 for 40 miles to make sure i was not seeing things and has the power of the v8
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1) You barely ran a stock V6 time, so driving skill is a replacement for displacement.

2) Go look at the times some of the FI guys are putting down. FI is a replacement for displacement.

3) Think about a Nissan GTR, only 3.8 L and it can take on a ZL1. Technology and dollars are a replacement for displacement.
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Okay GTR vs ZL1 is not even close to the same thing. For one the GTR is AWD and specificlly made to be on a road course and the tech in that car is extremely different than a ZL1.
You can turbo charge your V6 camaro all day long it wont be a GTR or anything like one.
You quoted me but you evidently didn't read it all. Let me highlight it for you.

So, I never said it would be a GTR or anything like one. However, I hope to be able to put down similar 1/4 mile times to a stock one. Still need to get some more fuel to mine, but I'm already putting down more power and my suspension mods are pretty good for the strip. Slap on the slicks and skinnies and I've got a good shot at low 11s and maybe high 10s as it is. We'll see real soon.

BTW the ZL1 is sold as a road course ready car, not a drag strip car, so it is a fair comparison from that stand point. If you want to argue that an additional $30K in mods to the ZL1 would make it faster than a stock GTR, then fine but that's another point I made isn't it???

Times have changed. Displacement doesn't matter as much as it used to.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:18 PM   #34
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How much does a GTR cost? How much does a ZL1 cost? They aren't the same.
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Displacement is being replaced by light weight parts and direct injected turbo cars on the streets. Due to EPA etc. "Necessity is the father of invention."

However you dont see race cars making smaller engines and adding forced induction to try to match a bigger motor without FI. Do you know something the race industry doesn't?

With all that being said. We are extremely off topic for this thread. I respect your choice in Turbocharging your v6 and I'm sure you chose that application for a reason.
INDY???

But you are right, far off topic. I go back to my first post for the OP. If it is your desire to have a high HP vehicle (you mentioned 800 HP Ram), then I would go with the cheapest option to make your wife happy. If she's satisfied with a stock V6 then just save the extra money to build/buy the monster you want at a later date.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:01 PM   #36
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INDY???
I go back to my first post for the OP. If it is your desire to have a high HP vehicle (you mentioned 800 HP Ram), then I would go with the cheapest option to make your wife happy. If she's satisfied with a stock V6 then just save the extra money to build/buy the monster you want at a later date.

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One thing to keep in mind. Power being equal, the SS will be more reliable. You can throw away the warranty on a V6 to FI it and have power at or slightly above a stock SS. OR a stock SS (or in some cases mildly moded) a retain a warranty.

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I should of bought a V8... no, seriously.
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You've heard the commercial for V8 vegetable drinks? Same rule applies with me. Should've had a V8
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Go V8...very mod friendly and you won't have to say...I wish I got the V8
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What's the reason to post the question v8 or 6? If you have the means to purchase either or, get the 8. All these posts ever do is cause a debate on who has the bigger stick. If you're going to buy a car just for exhaust sound ( ridiculous ) then do it. The 8 stock is making what the six is at the crank in hp. Either way you'll want to get more hp sooner or later. People with 6's are either comfortable with what they have and mod accordingly or they whine later about how they should have gotten an 8. I don't go to tracks so what I have is fine with me but after seeing the numbers Gretchen put up, I'm convinced the six is money well spent. That thing is an 8 killing machine. Go to the dyno sections and check what people have put down in their 8's and what mods they put in to get 25 to 50 over stock hp and then refer back to Gretchen a v6. You're going to spend money either way.
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What's the reason to post the question v8 or 6? If you have the means to purchase either or, get the 8. All these posts ever do is cause a debate on who has the bigger stick. If you're going to buy a car just for exhaust sound ( ridiculous ) then do it. The 8 stock is making what the six is at the crank in hp. Either way you'll want to get more hp sooner or later. People with 6's are either comfortable with what they have and mod accordingly or they whine later about how they should have gotten an 8. I don't go to tracks so what I have is fine with me but after seeing the numbers Gretchen put up, I'm convinced the six is money well spent. That thing is an 8 killing machine. Go to the dyno sections and check what people have put down in their 8's and what mods they put in to get 25 to 50 over stock hp and then refer back to Gretchen a v6. You're going to spend money either way.
the reason was exactly what you just wrote there are very good reasons to buy both. But after some of these posts I believe were going v8. Only problem now is trying to find what we are looking for. $30k max 2ss white red leather auto under 15k miles and I don't want to buy from a dealer everyone I have called has one price advertised and out the door they add almost another $1000 and I still have to do tax, title...myself its bs. I'm in no rush we have a winter beater so were not hurting for a new car but we do have the money ready and a new car is always tempting. Hopefully we can find something in the next month or two I just hope it don't take that long.


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the reason was exactly what you just wrote there are very good reasons to buy both. But after some of these posts I believe were going v8. Only problem now is trying to find what we are looking for. $30k max 2ss white red leather auto under 15k miles and I don't want to buy from a dealer everyone I have called has one price advertised and out the door they add almost another $1000 and I still have to do tax, title...myself its bs. I'm in no rush we have a winter beater so were not hurting for a new car but we do have the money ready and a new car is always tempting. Hopefully we can find something in the next month or two I just hope it don't take that long.


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it appears more people go from a V6 to a V8. How many go from a V8 to a V6?????
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it appears more people go from a V6 to a V8. How many go from a V8 to a V6?????
I've seen go from V8 to the Cruze!!! My guess is most wouldn't admit it or would go to a different car althogher and not bother to post here.
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I've seen go from V8 to the Cruze!!! My guess is most wouldn't admit it or would go to a different car althogher and not bother to post here.
People go V6 to V8 for power and mod potential. I'm willing to bet no one has gone V8 to V6 because they just want to have a super/turbo charged V6. People downgrade because of cost. People upgrade for power and modability. Usually.

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I should have bought a v8 but saw no need for all the other upgrades that come with the v8. 23,000 window sticker on the ls minus rebates vs 34,000 window on all the v8 I found. Couldnt seem to spend 10-11 g's on a v8 when I didnt want 20's, brembos, blah blah blah. To top it off v8 insurance cost.

I really would like the v8 sound but oh well. Just not worth it for me but I would probably not do the v6 again if i could afford the v8 and the costs that go with it.
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I personally love my SS. If I could do it all over again, I would. My suggestion to the OP, you know the basics pros and cons of both cars. Test drive them both and see which one you prefer. No matter what you buy, you will inevitably be modding either one. Doing it on a V8, just might take a little longer to get to.
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