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Old 02-01-2013, 10:27 AM   #151
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This buzz of an LS7 is good news. I'm trading my car away this spring and I still can't decide between a ZL1 and a GT500, but if there was a Z28 with an LS7..... I'm sold on that!!!
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:33 AM   #152
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I like the upper grille a little better, but I never did like the v6 front end, and pasting the mail slot in just makes it lame.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:41 AM   #153
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Based on the posts from Fbodfather and the little bit of info available, I'd say they are just testing the NPP exhaust that will go for sale as a performance part. Others have said it, I agree.

But would be sweet if it was more than that.

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I think everyone is forgetting about those leaked VIN cards with all the engine options for 2014. There IS an LF3 which is a twin turbo 3.6. To me...that's just as exciting as an LS7.

If the N/A 3.6 lays down 323 what do 2 turbos add?
I'd say GM will keep the LF3 pretty conservative in cars like the XTS and Impala SS with HP in the 360 to 400 range. Maybe bump it up a notch to 450+ in something like the ATS-V.

But it would be capable of way more than that. We have a member here with a LFX with forged internals running twin turbos making over 650HP at the crank...maybe closer to 700 based on his dynos. Hasn't had it out at a 1/4 mile track yet, but did have it on a 1000' track. Based on his early runs, he should be capable of low 11s for sure.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:04 PM   #154
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Re: 6-piston Brembo front brakes - IF an LS7'd ZEE comes to fruition, its Curb Weight would be roughly = GT500 (which also has 6-pot brakes). As we now know from Lightning Lap, a 1LE with "only" 426 hp is a near-equal to the GT500 in lap time at VIR. Add the extra power to the 1LE and speeds will rise and times will lower...especially with more substantial braking. Add in its likely use in multi-lap HPDEs (for the serious ZEE intenders), and the 6-pot Brembos become mandatory...or at least part of a Track-Ready Package. Call it a "systems approach", just as the ZL1 was/is.

Re: Pricing - 1SS/1LEs come in at $37-ish Base with NPP + aero aids for the lightest, least-festooned version, which makes a great starting point for a serious ZEE. Add $7,500 for the LS7, $2,500 for the ZL1 brakes, $2,500 for composite hood AND Michelin PSS rubber, the true "equalizer"....

Grand Total: Under $50,000...just under...

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Old 02-01-2013, 12:05 PM   #155
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Same grille and fascia as the SS test mule at the "Ring"

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.....go back and read what I posted about a performance Exhaust system......

(meaning an exhaust system that you could buy in the future from a GM Dealership...)


.....we TEST them before we offer them....therefore......Google away - you won't see it yet.
Sooooo.....Exactly when WILL we see it???? Also, if you guys need some "REAL" world testing of the exhaust, I'd be glad to offer up my car. The only thing I'd ask is that I could keep it after the testing is done......
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:13 PM   #156
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.....go back and read what I posted about a performance Exhaust system......

(meaning an exhaust system that you could buy in the future from a GM Dealership...)


.....we TEST them before we offer them....therefore......Google away - you won't see it yet.
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This car is a 2010 CTF vehicle and they are testing the dual mode performance exhaust system that will be available soon at your local Chevy performance parts dealer. It will work with 2010-14,15... V8s.

That is all. Go back to work now.
Even so, I'm still excited. Love those quad exhaust tips.
Going to keep my fingers crossed that it'll work with the factory GFX.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:58 PM   #157
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So basically we have no idea what this car is? I hope we confirmation about an LS7 Camaro soon. I put off ordering a 1le waiting on this. I hope alk they do is just drop the ls7 into a 1le and call it a day. No fancy brakes or shocks so the price stays down.
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That for me would be my dream car (most I will spend on a car till I get out of school)
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:19 PM   #158
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Perhaps they do build this as a 45th Anniversary ZL1 limited edition. And they only build 69 of them.


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Old 02-01-2013, 01:23 PM   #159
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:51 PM   #160
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Re: 6-piston Brembo front brakes - IF an LS7'd ZEE comes to fruition, its Curb Weight would be roughly = GT500 (which also has 6-pot brakes). As we now know from Lightning Lap, a 1LE with "only" 426 hp is a near-equal to the GT500 in lap time at VIR. Add the extra power to the 1LE and speeds will rise and times will lower...especially with more substantial braking. Add in its likely use in multi-lap HPDEs (for the serious ZEE intenders), and the 6-pot Brembos become mandatory...or at least part of a Track-Ready Package. Call it a "systems approach", just as the ZL1 was/is.

Re: Pricing - 1SS/1LEs come in at $37-ish Base with NPP + aero aids for the lightest, least-festooned version, which makes a great starting point for a serious ZEE. Add $7,500 for the LS7, $2,500 for the ZL1 brakes, $2,500 for composite hood AND Michelin PSS rubber, the true "equalizer"....

Grand Total: Under $50,000...just under...

Make mine Double-BLACK...and hold the stripes.
This is my train of thought too. I can see something lighter than the current Camaro being in order though. Maybe something with less bells and wistles though. Can you imagine something along the lines of a Mudstain Laguna Seca with an LS7. Strip a Camaro down and add the big motor?

I'm still ordering my 1LE the middle of Febuary. I'm not willing to give up the creature comforts or pay the premium price If I was going to pay top money it'd be a ZL1.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:09 PM   #161
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:03 PM   #162
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V6 fascia, with mailslot... Interesting.
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:18 PM   #163
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haha thats the concept bumper, well prototype version of concept bumper. Great to see it, definitly a V8, wonder what it is. But cool none the less
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:34 PM   #164
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:42 PM   #165
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...pricing too close for comfort for GM to do that between a ZL1 and a Z/28...now, a special edition LS7 1LE track pack deal? They would go for that I wager, perhaps with Pedders suspension...but not called a Z/28...we woulda had it by now if they were willing to take the risk. That would be like scrimaging against your team. We used a Cadillac engine for the ZL1, not anything off the Vette line for similar logic. Wage war against the enemy, not amongst yourself.
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:59 PM   #166
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:05 PM   #167
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Could be the V6 with Parformance Package under testing : (FE4 Suspension / Brembo Brakes / GM Performance muffler.)
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:09 PM   #168
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One can only hope. GM bring back the Z28!
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:12 PM   #169
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Or it may be a Z28 with a LS7, good thing we are # 2 on a list, any one know who is number one on the list.
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Or it may be a Z28 with a LS7, good thing we are # 2 on a list, any one know who is number one on the list.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:41 PM   #171
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I love the fact that because it is a test mule that it must be a 427...lol

I would believe more that it was the direct injected engine.

Just kinda funny, ... there is NO WAY to tell what size the N.A. motor is in a car by looking at the exterior of the car
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:51 PM   #172
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I think everyone is forgetting about those leaked VIN cards with all the engine options for 2014. There IS an LF3 which is a twin turbo 3.6. To me...that's just as exciting as an LS7.

If the N/A 3.6 lays down 323 what do 2 turbos add?
I think you could be on to something, The article says they rule out a V6 because "it was said to sound like a V8" He forgets that GM has said they are working on a better sounding exhaust , That very well could be what we see .
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I think you could be on to something, The article says they rule out a V6 because "it was said to sound like a V8" He forgets that GM has said they are working on a better sounding exhaust , That very well could be what we see .
It would actually be a phenomenal accomplishment if they could make a 6 sound like an 8. That would definitely ease the pain of V-8s becoming more expensive as oil runs out.
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It would actually be a phenomenal accomplishment if they could make a 6 sound like an 8. That would definitely ease the pain of V-8s becoming more expensive as government increases regulations.
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