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Old 01-31-2013, 11:12 AM   #1
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IPS "Entry Level" Twin-Turbo Kit

We are still in the testing-stages right now but here are a few pics:









The goal for this kit is simple: Chop a considerable amount of cost from our current kit without sacrificing reliability or longevity at all. To that end 90% of the components are the exact same (Including the Tial WG's and BOV and 4" FMIC) with the big change being the turbos. They are still 100% genuine Garrett, but not billet or ball-bearing which saves a good deal of money. The A/R is smaller at .82 but we are still testing to find out what effect this will have on "Bolt-on" applications. The other necessary change based on turbos was the use of T3 flanges and 2.5" downpipes. Obviously this kit will not prove capable of making the "Big power" numbers our existing kit does right out of the box but we think for those looking for a simple bolt-on kit capable of making 600+ whp it will fill a nice role in our offerings.

Mark (Carlyle) was kind enough to "Donate" his car for testing and thus far in 2 pulls we have made 560rwhp and 565 ft/lbs through the stock Auto on his bone-stock car. Injectors are being upgraded and we will get final #s today or tomorrow.

We are still crunching numbers but the "Goal" price for the kit is $5995 if everything works as it does on paper. Once we have this confirmed the kit will be added to the website and available for ordering
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:54 AM   #2
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This will make for an awesome entry kit--especially for that price. How much boost were you pushing to make that power on Mark's car? Also, is it possible to upgrade to the ball bearing/billet turbos in the future without many problems or fabrication? I'm hoping to be over at your shop with my car within the next month or two getting a kit installed!
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:06 PM   #3
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This will make for an awesome entry kit--especially for that price. How much boost were you pushing to make that power on Mark's car? Also, is it possible to upgrade to the ball bearing/billet turbos in the future without many problems or fabrication? I'm hoping to be over at your shop with my car within the next month or two getting a kit installed!
It was pretty abbreviated (All of 2 pulls) because we were curious what it might be able to make on 100% stock injectors. With injectors in it today we plan on running 8-9psi like we did before to see a true apples-to-apples comparison to his "Old" GT3586 kit that we will then be putting back on and doing a final tune.

Our hunch is that it is going to be pretty close in terms of power and a little better response at the sub 10psi boost level.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:08 PM   #4
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What is the growth potential for this kit? I am eyeing the 650/650 range so on a LS3 it seems like this may be doable.

Also are you looking at the same install time?
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:17 PM   #5
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Those numbers are pretty much exactly where I want to end up (for now anyway). Have you guys had a chance to install this on a M6?
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:31 PM   #6
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What is the growth potential for this kit? I am eyeing the 650/650 range so on a LS3 it seems like this may be doable.

Also are you looking at the same install time?
*If* the kit ends up pretty close to the 600rwhp # on an Auto car it will make 650rwhp on a 6-speed car with no issues at all. The plan is to sell this prototype kit to a local client so we can then dyno it 100% as-is on his 6-speed so we have solid #s for both.

The install time will be slightly less than our "Normal" kit (Intake doesn't need removed and oil lines are much easier to install) by comparison.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:45 PM   #7
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:50 PM   #8
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Y'all are killing me. In a good way. Just when I decided I couldn't afford to go TT you come out with this. I really wanted your other kit. I was ready to 'settle' for headers and cam. Now this. I hope upgrading wont be to difficult if I decide to go big down the road. Please don't take to long to finalize this because I'm not sure how long I can wait.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:14 PM   #9
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:17 PM   #10
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I've got to watch this one... looking good, Jeff!
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*If* the kit ends up pretty close to the 600rwhp # on an Auto car it will make 650rwhp on a 6-speed car with no issues at all. The plan is to sell this prototype kit to a local client so we can then dyno it 100% as-is on his 6-speed so we have solid #s for both.

The install time will be slightly less than our "Normal" kit (Intake doesn't need removed and oil lines are much easier to install) by comparison.
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:20 PM   #12
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:05 PM   #14
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:58 PM   #15
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Damn wish i knew about this a couple months ago. Anyone want to buy a set of tsp long tubes i planned on using on my sc build haha. Does this kit include injectors, bap, tune ect.?
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:13 PM   #16
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Wow!! You're going to sell these kits like hot cakes!!
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:31 PM   #17
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600 on a stock engine for $6000 ! Wow !! That's the best deal you can get if all holds up. What have I been doing ??!!! Put some miles on that thing and if it stays in one piece, I might be on the turbo band wagon folks !
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:33 PM   #18
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How much fab work do you think it would take to get this installed on a zl1? If its even possible. Got to go for a ride in a friends twin-charged 03 Cobra and it was amazing!!
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:33 PM   #19
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Well, Jeff stole my thunder, but the kit is nothing short of amazing! Quality parts and reliable power for that price!

I was sworn to secrecy so I couldn't spill the beans but since the cat's out of the bag, open the flood gates!
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Off topic, but I used to drool over your car all the time on the Garrett page
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:06 PM   #21
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so awesome, but it makes it way harder to choose between this and the "normal" kit!
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:07 PM   #22
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Incredible price to power ratio!

How reliable will a system like this be over time?

Could it be considered for a daily driver?
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I need to get $6k

And I'd also like to know if this would be suitable for a DD
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:29 AM   #24
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How reliable will a system like this be over time?

Could it be considered for a daily driver?
Very. That is why we still sourced 110% genuine Garrett turbos. Sourcing something direct from China is cheap and easy but the reliability factor just isn't there. WG's and BOV are still Tial which is as good as it gets. The rest of the kit we have had on numerous cars and tested for a few years now. Some are almost 1200rwhp weekend-warriors and some are 600rwhp daily-drivers that still get tracked a few times a year.

I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use this kit on a true daily-driver aside from maybe the decrease in fuel economy due to it being too hard to stay out of boost Hearing the turbos spooling and BOV popping is too much for most people to resist
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:37 AM   #25
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so awesome, but it makes it way harder to choose between this and the "normal" kit!
The other kit is for those that kind of know they want to go "Big" sooner than later and don't want to have to upgrade 75% of a kit to see 4-digit power at the wheels. Our hunch is that this kit should be good for minimally 700-ish rwhp as it sits but past that the larger GT35R or 37R-based turbos with the larger Tial SS housings will really start to pull away.

For those "Just" looking for a solid 600-650rwhp set-up without having to spend a ton of money or time on install this is the ticket!
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