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Old 02-05-2013, 01:03 PM   #1
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Stock RS or SS Wheels on a ZL1

I was thinking of getting a set of stock wheels from a 2010-2013 SS or RS with snow tires for my ZL1. Not planning on running it in the snow, but emergencies do happen. I am also not real comfortable with the idea of having her sitting on jack stands for that long .

Does anyone know if there are any issues with putting these wheels on a ZL1? I mean obviously there are performance issues, but I am asking if there are functional or clearance type issues that would prevent this from working as a backup.

Thanks in Advance, ZH
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:15 PM   #2
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I was thinking of getting a set of stock wheels from a 2010-2013 SS or RS with snow tires for my ZL1. Not planning on running it in the snow, but emergencies do happen. I am also not real comfortable with the idea of having her sitting on jack stands for that long .

Does anyone know if there are any issues with putting these wheels on a ZL1? I mean obviously there are performance issues, but I am asking if there are functional or clearance type issues that would prevent this from working as a backup.

Thanks in Advance, ZH
I don't have a confirmed answer for you however I just purchased a set of SS rims and tires with Pirelli P Zero tires on them from my dealer. I told them they are for my ZL1. I asked them to confirm that they would fit before I bought them. They confirmed - with a reassurance I could return them if they were wrong for some unknown reason - they would fit. Both sets are 20" rims. When I put them on I will confirm for you. However it might take me some time as I've injured my back and can't do anything at the moment.

The rims were in the parts centre as a 'scratch and dent' sale. The scratch is barely visible. $1500 for the set!
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:53 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info Bullet. Not a bad price for a set. Please let me know when you get them on and run them. I will be interested to hear the results.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:51 PM   #4
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People have used LS "Heritage" steel wheels on SS's for winter driving so I'd imagine a similar deal with SS wheels on a ZL1 could be done.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:55 PM   #5
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I bought a set of aftermarket wheels/tires for my 2011 2SS/Rs Vert from tirerack (American Hor Rod Torque Thrust) it stock sizes and kept them when I traded the 2011 for my 2013 ZL1 Vert.

When the cold weather came, I took the stock ZL1 wheels/tires off, put them in the basement and put the other set on the car for the winter.

They fit just fine with no clearance problems at all.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:15 PM   #6
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So, are you guys putting 20"x10" on front and back and not 20"x11" on the back?
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I recently put aftermarket 20x10's on all 4 corners with Nitto Motivo's . Went on a trip to Florida and I'm very happy with the combo. And this setup can be rotated.
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I have SS wheels with all season tires in the regular SS size on on my ZL1 right now. I got a used set of wheels in very good condition off Craig's List for $400. I paid about $900 for the all season tires mounted and balanced. This setup bolted right on with no problems and works great in the winter. I made the swap in early November after my summer tires started to feel like hockey pucks.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:58 AM   #9
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OK. Just the answers I hoped for. While I don't think I could come close to your pricing TIBS, I will start looking around. Super info about being able to rotate them Camaro X. Both of you have described what I want to do and I thank you for your help and info.

TIBS, where is Aston? I am born and raised in the steel city.
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So, are you guys putting 20"x10" on front and back and not 20"x11" on the back?
I believe the Torque Thrust wheels I bought for the 2011 vert were 10" for the rear and 9" for the front on stock size P0's.

I put them on the ZL1 mainly for winter storage, but I've probably put 1000 miles on them with no problem whatsoever.

Come spring, the ZL1 wheels/tires go back on.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:32 AM   #11
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I was thinking of getting these rims and putting a good winter tire on them, such as a Blizztech.

http://www.oewheelsllc.com/20-OEM-Ca...hrome-20x8-SET

What do you guys think, should that work?
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Excellent info guys, thanks.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:15 AM   #13
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Personally I would go with the 20x10's and not the 20x8's. Another question though, Tire Rack is providing the following caution:

Your vehicle is equipped with a tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) that requires a sensor to be installed in the tire and wheel assembly for proper operation.

NHTSA's interpretation of the Motor Vehicle Safety Act prohibits service providers from installing aftermarket tires and wheels on your vehicle without working TPMS sensors.

In some states, vehicle inspection regulations require operating TPMS on every vehicle that came with TPMS as Original Equipment. Check with local law enforcement officials to confirm restrictions in your area or check our latest listing here.

The Original Equipment sensors from your Original Equipment wheels may be compatible with the new wheels you selected. Please consult the "Important Notes" link found online for more information or call Tire Rack for assistance.

An inexpensive TPMS repair/rebuild kit is required when sensors are reused.

As an option you may purchase the sensors listed below. They are compatible with both your vehicle's TPMS and the wheel you have selected.

Has anyone run into this? They sell the kit for $276.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:18 AM   #14
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Personally I would go with the 20x10's and not the 20x8's. Another question though, Tire Rack is providing the following caution:

Your vehicle is equipped with a tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) that requires a sensor to be installed in the tire and wheel assembly for proper operation.

NHTSA's interpretation of the Motor Vehicle Safety Act prohibits service providers from installing aftermarket tires and wheels on your vehicle without working TPMS sensors.

In some states, vehicle inspection regulations require operating TPMS on every vehicle that came with TPMS as Original Equipment. Check with local law enforcement officials to confirm restrictions in your area or check our latest listing here.

The Original Equipment sensors from your Original Equipment wheels may be compatible with the new wheels you selected. Please consult the "Important Notes" link found online for more information or call Tire Rack for assistance.

An inexpensive TPMS repair/rebuild kit is required when sensors are reused.

As an option you may purchase the sensors listed below. They are compatible with both your vehicle's TPMS and the wheel you have selected.

Has anyone run into this? They sell the kit for $276.
I thought TPM was about $45/ tire at my dealer . . .
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Personally I would go with the 20x10's and not the 20x8's. Another question though, Tire Rack is providing the following caution:

Your vehicle is equipped with a tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) that requires a sensor to be installed in the tire and wheel assembly for proper operation.

NHTSA's interpretation of the Motor Vehicle Safety Act prohibits service providers from installing aftermarket tires and wheels on your vehicle without working TPMS sensors.

In some states, vehicle inspection regulations require operating TPMS on every vehicle that came with TPMS as Original Equipment. Check with local law enforcement officials to confirm restrictions in your area or check our latest listing here.
The Original Equipment sensors from your Original Equipment wheels may be compatible with the new wheels you selected. Please consult the "Important Notes" link found online for more information or call Tire Rack for assistance.

An inexpensive TPMS repair/rebuild kit is required when sensors are reused.

As an option you may purchase the sensors listed below. They are compatible with both your vehicle's TPMS and the wheel you have selected.

Has anyone run into this? They sell the kit for $276.
They are simply stating that according to 'The Rules', tire stores or the dealer, aren't supposed to install wheels/tires on your car if they don't have the TPMS sensors in them.

if you install wheels/tires with no TPMS sensors or if you don't have the TPMS sensors 'calibrated' to your vehicle, it can affect misc systems in the car.
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I am most concerned with what is good for the ZL1. I guess that I have sensors in my current stock tires and need to buy another set of sensors for the new tires and have them installed and hooked up to and calibrated for my vehicle. I should check with my dealer and see what they sell them for and the cost to install. Any other "issues" I should know about before I get into a new set of tires?
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I am most concerned with what is good for the ZL1. I guess that I have sensors in my current stock tires and need to buy another set of sensors for the new tires and have them installed and hooked up to and calibrated for my vehicle. I should check with my dealer and see what they sell them for and the cost to install. Any other "issues" I should know about before I get into a new set of tires?
for simplicity's sake, when I bought my set of wheels/tires from tirerack.com, I had them install the TPMS sensors, balance the wheels, etc. That way it was easy to just take the old set off and put the new set on.

No matter what, if you change the sensors, you have to take it to the dealer or at least find someone with a TPMS calibrator so the new sensors can be 'calibrated' to the car. It's easy to do and only takes a few min, but on the ZL1, you DO need the special TPMS calibrator box.

If you change your wheels/sensors yourself often enough you can buy that special TPMS calibrator box yourself for somewhere around $50-100 I think.

My dealer does it for no charge, and like I say it only takes a few min.
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Very good info, HDRDTD. When I actually order new wheels/tires I will have them install the sensors, balance them and whatever else they should do. Then I can have the original sensors remain in the stock tires. My intention is to change tires twice each year, late fall and late spring, and have the dealer do it. Thanks for all of the info and suggestions.
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for simplicity's sake, when I bought my set of wheels/tires from tirerack.com, I had them install the TPMS sensors, balance the wheels, etc. That way it was easy to just take the old set off and put the new set on.

No matter what, if you change the sensors, you have to take it to the dealer or at least find someone with a TPMS calibrator so the new sensors can be 'calibrated' to the car. It's easy to do and only takes a few min, but on the ZL1, you DO need the special TPMS calibrator box.

If you change your wheels/sensors yourself often enough you can buy that special TPMS calibrator box yourself for somewhere around $50-100 I think.

My dealer does it for no charge, and like I say it only takes a few min.

The dealer is the fastest and easiest way. If you like to tinker then buy the re-learn tool and just start at the drivers tire and continue around clockwise.
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The dealer is the fastest and easiest way. If you like to tinker then buy the re-learn tool and just start at the drivers tire and continue around clockwise.
My dealer couldn't for the life of him figure out why I wanted to buy the tool, since they are glad to do it for free anytime.

I just told him, women collect shoes, men collect tools, and I didn't have a TPMS tool yet.
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OK, one more question, for now anyway. The stock wheels are 20x10 on the front with tires of 285/35/20 and 20x11 on the rear with tires of 305/35/20. If I change to 20x10 with tires of 285/35/20 on all 4 corners,, won't this affect the odometer reading? I think it would falsely put more miles on the car than what was actually driven.
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OK, one more question, for now anyway. The stock wheels are 20x10 on the front with tires of 285/35/20 and 20x11 on the rear with tires of 305/35/20. If I change to 20x10 with tires of 285/35/20 on all 4 corners,, won't this affect the odometer reading? I think it would falsely put more miles on the car than what was actually driven.

From my understanding and past usage of aftermarket wheels and tires you are okay. You are only changing the width of the tire. The aspect ratio HEIGHT of the tire (35) is unchanged only the width which is shorter. If you were using a 40 series which is taller or a 30 series (heaven forbid) which is shorter then you have a discrepancy in your readings.
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From my understanding and past usage of aftermarket wheels and tires you are okay. You are only changing the width of the tire. The aspect ratio HEIGHT of the tire (35) is unchanged only the width which is shorter. If you were using a 40 series which is taller or a 30 series (heaven forbid) which is shorter then you have a discrepancy in your readings.
I never get that right. Thanks for the info.
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Acording to Tire Racks website the 305/35-20 is 28.4" tall and the 285/35-20 is 27.9" tall, so yes it will make a differance of 1.76%.
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From my understanding and past usage of aftermarket wheels and tires you are okay. You are only changing the width of the tire. The aspect ratio HEIGHT of the tire (35) is unchanged only the width which is shorter. If you were using a 40 series which is taller or a 30 series (heaven forbid) which is shorter then you have a discrepancy in your readings.
This is partially incorrect.. Going with a narrower tire will result in the tire being shorter. Just as going with a wider tire will make the tire taller. The (35) in 305/35/20 is 35% of the tread width. So yes changing width will effect mileage readings. I hope this helps

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