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Old 06-16-2009, 12:31 AM   #1
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Octane Booster?

Where I live, there are only a couple gas stations that offer 92 octane. Most offer only 91, and none (that I've found) offer 93 or above. I was curious as to if I should add an octane booster, like the STP Octane Booster I found at Walmart for like $5 per tank. Is this worth looking in to? or is 92 perfectly fine?
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Where I live, there are only a couple gas stations that offer 92 octane. Most offer only 91, and none (that I've found) offer 93 or above. I was curious as to if I should add an octane booster, like the STP Octane Booster I found at Walmart for like $5 per tank. Is this worth looking in to? or is 92 perfectly fine?
92 should be perfectly fine. One can of octane booster may not even raise the octane of a full tank by 1.
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92 is fine, but octane booster is fun to use anyways. I know its $$, but it does GREAT things for your engine.
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92 is fine, but octane booster is fun to use anyways. I know its $$, but it does GREAT things for your engine.
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Octane booster is a waste of money. Most as Twin said wont even raise a tank of gas 1 point and some actually hurt the octane rating. Dont waste your money on that crap. If you want more octane buy some av gas, or race gas and mix it in with a tank of what you get normally and raise your octane that way.
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Octane booster works if you buy the right stuff.
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Xcelacorp-Octanium

We have done back to back dyno testing and have shown direct improvement s with the product we tested.

Octanium by Xcelacorp

In 2006, a team of leading automotive tuners, drivers, and scientists came together with a single goal: create the world’s most powerful octane booster for gasoline powered, high-performance vehicles. After countless hours in the lab and on the dyno, a powerful new formula emerged: Octanium! No other major brand additive can match Octanium for true, measurable increases in gasoline octane.* Using Octanium can raise 93-octane pump gasoline to nearly 100-octane; dramatically more than any other octane additive!*

The proprietary blend of ingredients in Octanium is designed to eliminate detonation and pre-ignition by stabilizing and modifying the burn rate of gasoline and increasing the autoignition temperature of the air/fuel mixture. Octanium is the ideal product for high performance factory or custom engines that require the chemical properties of a race fuel to achieve maximum power and reliability. Octanium works great with high-compression normally aspirated engines and supercharged, turbocharged, and nitrous assisted engines. Whatever you drive, Octanium helps your car, truck, SUV, motorcycle, or watercraft run at peak engine performance.

*Independent laboratory results at the time of original formulation.


We sell cases of this stuff to many people online as well as whosale dealers.It is great stuff and I will continue to use and sell it with confidence.


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AvGas for Octane Boost

Just be careful with AVGAS. Although it's 100 Low Lead. It's not Unleaded. Aviation piston engines still need lead for lubrication of the valve seats. The avgas was lowered to low lead when all of the cars in the 70's were switched to unleaded. Don't run Low Lead in your new car. You'll be visiting the dealer and have an expensive repair bill. But it's still okay to run in 1st Gen Camaros, they don't have any sensors or cats.
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We have done back to back dyno testing and have shown direct improvement s with the product we tested.

Octanium by Xcelacorp

In 2006, a team of leading automotive tuners, drivers, and scientists came together with a single goal: create the world’s most powerful octane booster for gasoline powered, high-performance vehicles. After countless hours in the lab and on the dyno, a powerful new formula emerged: Octanium! No other major brand additive can match Octanium for true, measurable increases in gasoline octane.* Using Octanium can raise 93-octane pump gasoline to nearly 100-octane; dramatically more than any other octane additive!*

The proprietary blend of ingredients in Octanium is designed to eliminate detonation and pre-ignition by stabilizing and modifying the burn rate of gasoline and increasing the autoignition temperature of the air/fuel mixture. Octanium is the ideal product for high performance factory or custom engines that require the chemical properties of a race fuel to achieve maximum power and reliability. Octanium works great with high-compression normally aspirated engines and supercharged, turbocharged, and nitrous assisted engines. Whatever you drive, Octanium helps your car, truck, SUV, motorcycle, or watercraft run at peak engine performance.

*Independent laboratory results at the time of original formulation.


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They talk about tests and dynos in that letter - do you have any you could post?
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They talk about tests and dynos in that letter - do you have any you could post?

The data was from 3 years ago when we became a dealer for the stuff.They sent us samples to evaluate,wanted to make sure it was real....No smoke and mirrors .

We aquired data on an untuned car(2004 corvette) recognizing small amounts of knock retard,we saved the data in hptuners scanner format at the time.Then we drained the tank,Put 10 gallons of 93 mixed with the proper ratio octanium per the manufacturer for 100 octane.Ran the car for 5 minutes on the dyno to insure proper fuel in the lines.The results were the same but with no hint of detonation.Then we added spark in 1 degree increments until we reached knock.If you have been around tuning ls engines you know that adding additional timing can make a substantial difference in the output versus leaning out the car.

In the end we net 11 rwhp and 12 rwtq with no knock.This was tuned and this was optimized for both street and dyno(No super lean high timing mixture)


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I use to you 100 octane in my turbo WRX so I could safely turn up the boost a little.
But I've been told, you really don't get much of a benifit if the car isn't tuned for the higher octane?

So I really don't know.
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Ok, so I know this is somewhat off topic, but my friend was telling me that a 50/50 mix of methanol and water injected into the motor has the same effect of increasing octane. (making 91 octane act as 115+ octane)

is this true?

I'm not the most knowledgeable person in the world regarding these matters, so I figured you guys would be better to ask.
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The data was from 3 years ago when we became a dealer for the stuff.They sent us samples to evaluate,wanted to make sure it was real....No smoke and mirrors .

We aquired data on an untuned car(2004 corvette) recognizing small amounts of knock retard,we saved the data in hptuners scanner format at the time.Then we drained the tank,Put 10 gallons of 93 mixed with the proper ratio octanium per the manufacturer for 100 octane.Ran the car for 5 minutes on the dyno to insure proper fuel in the lines.The results were the same but with no hint of detonation.Then we added spark in 1 degree increments until we reached knock.If you have been around tuning ls engines you know that adding additional timing can make a substantial difference in the output versus leaning out the car.

In the end we net 11 rwhp and 12 rwtq with no knock.This was tuned and this was optimized for both street and dyno(No super lean high timing mixture)


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But that sounds like a typical gain you would get on an engine with a tune on regular pump gas anyways.
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Ok, so I know this is somewhat off topic, but my friend was telling me that a 50/50 mix of methanol and water injected into the motor has the same effect of increasing octane. (making 91 octane act as 115+ octane)

is this true?

I'm not the most knowledgeable person in the world regarding these matters, so I figured you guys would be better to ask.
No thats very not true. Injection methods like that for water, alcohol, etc are good on turbo applications to super cool the intake charge, but a NA engine does not have the heat issues a turbo charged engine has. Aside from the fact that it eventually rots your intake parts.

You wanna boost octane take the active ingredient in all those octane boosters Xylene or Toluene (usually is like 2-3% in those tiny bottles), it can be bought by the gallon at any Sherwin Williams. Add about 1 ounce of marvel mystery oil, then pour the whole gallon of it into a half full tank of gas, then fill up. It will effectively give you a true 100 octane, although I seriously doubt the motor will use it, you would need a tune. Plus its not so good for your cat either IIRC....

I used to use this mixture in my GN and TTA and was able to crank up the boost 2 lbs more with no knock than on regular pump gas.
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Octane Booster is a joke, do not buy that crap. If you want more performance add 5 gallons of Race Fuel or call Snow Performance for a water methanol setup
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I knew this one would come around eventually. While we're on the topic, let's also address:
Acetone, window cleaner, and how to distill your own gasoline from weeds.
Next we'll get linked to an online calculator that tallies up performance gains according to bumper-sticker number and placement.
Then the synthetic oil thread, and finally someone will link us to either http://www.tornadoair.com/ or the pinwheel one they used to sell at Walgreens that just clipped onto the grille.

The bottom line is that it's all mousemilk, and the idiots who swear by it are either shills, charlatains, trolls or willing victims of the expectancy effect exerted by their purchase of a gimmick, which is reinforced emotionally when the product does nothing or obtains anything other than a substantially negative result. It's like people who gulp down all manner of vitamins and supplements, ignoring how and in what trace quantities these substances are naturally absorbed and winding up with only expensive urine to show for it.
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I knew this one would come around eventually. While we're on the topic, let's also address:
Acetone, window cleaner, and how to distill your own gasoline from weeds.
Next we'll get linked to an online calculator that tallies up performance gains according to bumper-sticker number and placement.
Then the synthetic oil thread, and finally someone will link us to either http://www.tornadoair.com/ or the pinwheel one they used to sell at Walgreens that just clipped onto the grille.

The bottom line is that it's all mousemilk, and the idiots who swear by it are either shills, charlatains, trolls or willing victims of the expectancy effect exerted by their purchase of a gimmick, which is reinforced emotionally when the product does nothing or obtains anything other than a substantially negative result. It's like people who gulp down all manner of vitamins and supplements, ignoring how and in what trace quantities these substances are naturally absorbed and winding up with only expensive urine to show for it.

Hey man if andy told us tht brand works it works...ask anybody on here abt his rep..and u are? My point exactly.
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Ok I guess a lot of you unaware that at the pump the tanker shows up with one truck, the lowest grade, from there, they add their own octane booster. Don't let these other people say it's a waste, it's not.
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If I get a tank of bad gas and it start's knocking I add octane booster and the knock goes away. But I guess that must mean it does'nt work.
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As part of my testing for the CAI that i beta test i have put on the last 2000 mi running on 87 octane to try and see if we can get the car to have a check engine light come on, At this time that has not taken place.
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As part of my testing for the CAI that i beta test i have put on the last 2000 mi running on 87 octane to try and see if we can get the car to have a check engine light come on, At this time that has not taken place.
And does the car feel real weak like #230 was at first?
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No i drove to LA for the Hurst thing and the car loved the air in LA it was only 75 degrees and i was at 600 ft , Car ran so good but the flip side was that if you get on the freeway after 11:00 am it stop and go traffic all the way, Dos any one know is it still 2.5 cars registered per driver, It seemed like all of the cars in LA was on the 210 2.5 hr to get to the 15 and in the morning it was 40 min in to hurst from the 15.
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Ok I guess a lot of you unaware that at the pump the tanker shows up with one truck, the lowest grade, from there, they add their own octane booster. Don't let these other people say it's a waste, it's not.
What? There are different compartments on the truck for different octane fuels. Even diesel. They do not add octane booster. I use to run a gas station so believe me that is entirely untrue.
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What? There are different compartments on the truck for different octane fuels. Even diesel. They do not add octane booster. I use to run a gas station so believe me that is entirely untrue.
My co-worker used to work for a gas company, and I concur. She said she would get mad because sometimes the drivers would have extra Unleaded and put it in the tanks for Unleaded Plus and Super. Don't know how often this happened, though.
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