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Old 02-11-2013, 08:22 PM   #1
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lowest temperatures 1LE can be driven in ?

Guys u need advice, mostly for my safety ... I supposed to take a road trip to vegas this weekend . I'm leaving Friday after work so ill be on my way like at 7 pm hour of california.... One girl from work told me she went this weekend and it was snowing on the way there.


Now I'm quite concerned, since I onow the 1LE tires were not made for low temperatures... What's the lowest temperature under I can still drive safely with those tires ?
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:10 PM   #2
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I live in So Cal.i drove to work in 34 degrees everything was fine,the only issue is with traction,dont corner fast you dont have grip.
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Guys u need advice, mostly for my safety ... I supposed to take a road trip to vegas this weekend . I'm leaving Friday after work so ill be on my way like at 7 pm hour of california.... One girl from work told me she went this weekend and it was snowing on the way there.


Now I'm quite concerned, since I onow the 1LE tires were not made for low temperatures... What's the lowest temperature under I can still drive safely with those tires ?
20* or less is no bueno, car should not be driven on the Goodyears, according to GM.
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:30 PM   #4
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:43 PM   #5
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I know this has been discussed and talked about before,but this just come out from GM today.....


Important Date:01/25/2013
Ref. number:Service / Service Operations / G_0000157402
Subject:ZL1 - 1LE Tires
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URGENT - DISTRIBUTE IMMEDIATELY


Date: January 25, 2013
SubjectZL1 - 1LE Tires
Models:Camaro ZL1 And 1LE
To:All Chevrolet Dealers
Attention:Service Manager, Sales Manager, Warranty Administrator, Parts Managers

The Camaro ZL1 and 1LE vehicles come standard equipped with 285/35ZR20 & 305/35ZR20 Goodyear F1 Supercar G2 D.O.T. approved ultra high performance summer tires with track capability.

Goodyear F1 Supercar Performance tires are a summer season tire and are not intended to be driven on snow, ice, or road surfaces below -7° C (20° F).

If the ambient temperature in your location is at or below -7° C (20° F), DO NOT MOVE THIS VEHICLE. The rubber used in these tires loses flexibility and may develop surface cracks in the tire tread/shoulder area at colder temperatures. Tire movement, when the temperature is below -7° C (20° F), may result in surface crack in the tread area of the tire. A surface crack on a tire is cosmetic and will not result in a loss of air

Example of a tire with a surface crack.





Special tread and compound used on these performance tires will cause a decrease in performance in cold climates, heavy rain, and standing water.

Driving on wet roads, in heavy rain, or through standing water with Summer Season Performance tires may result in hydroplaning and loss of vehicle control.

Driving with Summer Season Performance Tires on snow, ice, or cold road surfaces can cause loss of control or an accident

Refer to service bulletin 04-03-10-013G: Driving Characteristics of Rear Wheel Drive Vehicles and Available Winter Tires for further information on available winter tires.

Tire Storage
It is recommended for these tires to be stored indoors at temperatures above 20 deg F (-7 deg C) when not in use. If the tires have been subject to 20 deg F (-7 deg C) or less, let them warm up in a heated space to at least 40 deg F for 24 hours or more before installation or driving the vehicle. Inflate the tires only after they have been warmed above 40 deg F (5 deg C). Do not place tires near heaters or heating devices used to warm the room where the tires are stored. Do not apply heat or blow heated air directly on the tires. Always inspect tires before use after storage periods.


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Old 02-11-2013, 11:10 PM   #6
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Cornerspeed Thanks for letting me know.... I just didn't want to get into an accident

Thank u so much slick rick the info was just what I needed.

ThNks for posting and for the tips finallysatisfied...

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Cornerspeed Thanks for letting me know.... I just didn't want to get into an accident

Thank u so much slick Rick the info was just what I needed

Thank you finallysatisfied as well for posting
Fixed. No problem man!
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Old 02-11-2013, 11:41 PM   #8
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Finallysatisfied also Thanks... What's the lowest temps u driven yours into ?
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Finallysatisfied also Thanks... What's the lowest temps u driven yours into ?
Lol. NOVA had temperatures of 14* which I had driven them in. I didn't have any issues then again, I drove very cautious.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:29 AM   #10
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Lio,

I'm headed out to Vegas this weekend myself. I believe the only snow last weekend was up at Cajon due to the rain. This weekend is supposed to be much warmer than last and no rain in the forecast.

I also have relatives over there and asked about night time temps. there. They said between 35-40 at night so shouldn't be any worries there either.

Be safe and have fun man!
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:27 AM   #11
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Finallysatisfied Thanks again for the info.. ill be very cautious as well

BRM1E Awesome I might see u over there... I'll be a pleasure to find a camaro and 1LE brother... Have fun too bro
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:06 AM   #12
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From experience in Michigan snow/cold weather driving every year for 24 year with modded cars you just need to be very away of the temperature outside. The car can of course be driven below 20 degrees but it will not corner, brake or accelerate the way it would in a warmer temperature so use caution. Now if you add snow or freezing rain to the mix it may be best to pull over and wait it out or swap on some all season rubber for the winter months and save the summer tires.

Years ago in college I was a snowboard instructor and would leave my board and gear at the resort so I could ride my ZX6R (on slick summer sport bike tires) to work and back with salt covered dry roads and a couple of inches of snow on the ground. Young and dumb? yes, but being cautious I did it often for fun. < point. Just be careful.

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Old 02-12-2013, 10:17 AM   #13
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Will the low temperature make the car feel like it needs an alignment? I have noticed the car will drift left or right once in a while in 30 degree weather. I only have 100miles on my car so i don't think it needs an alignment

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Old 02-12-2013, 10:40 AM   #14
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Once you get out here you will be fine. I would just be carful in the mountain passes on your way if you have to go through any
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:42 AM   #15
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Will the low temperature make the car feel like it needs an alignment? I have noticed the car will drift left or right once in a while in 30 degree weather. I only have 100miles on my car so i don't think it needs an alignment

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In short: Yes it can.

Basically: If one front tire looses grip or "slips" the car could pull the opposite direction as all of the grip has transferred to the other front tire. It is essentially doing the work of both tires, but it is on one side of the car causing the pull.....Now picture this happening back and forth as you drive down the road.. It could easily feel like it needs an alignment.

Add in rear wheel drive with a limited slip and you have a car that could be essentially "dancing" down the road in cold weather on the stock tires.

I like rear world examples: I got caught in a rain storm on the freeway in a my old 500hp Evo on grooved but worn race tires and no traction/stability. I couldn't go over 50mph without the car trying to kill me. It was all over the road and constantly breaking traction. I got home, swapped on the all season, went back out and cruised at 80 mph in the rain like everyone else (That is how we drive in Michigan )

I know they are expensive....but for those in colder climates a second set of wheels and tires (All season or snow depending on climate) to me is way cheaper in the long run vs. wrecking the car, paying a deductible and then owning a repainted or repaired car....

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In short: Yes it can.

Basically: If one front tire looses grip or "slips" the car could pull the opposite direction as all of the grip has transferred to the other front tire. It is essentially doing the work of both tires, but it is on one side of the car causing the pull.....Now picture this happening back and forth as you drive down the road.. It could easily feel like it needs an alignment.

Add in rear wheel drive with a limited slip and you have a car that could be essentially "dancing" down the road in cold weather on the stock tires.

I like rear world examples: I got caught in a rain storm on the freeway in a my old 500hp Evo on grooved but worn race tires and no traction/stability. I couldn't go over 50mph without the car trying to kill me. It was all over the road and constantly breaking traction. I got home, swapped on the all season, went back out and cruised at 80 mph in the rain like everyone else (That is how we drive in Michigan )

I know they are expensive....but for those in colder climates a second set of wheels and tires (All season or snow depending on climate) to me is way cheaper in the long run vs. wrecking the car, paying a deductible and then owning a repainted or repaired car....

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Thanks for the info man. I have a winter vehicle and only drive the 1le in good weather

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Once you get out here you will be fine. I would just be carful in the mountain passes on your way if you have to go through any
Mmmmmmm not Sure if I'm crossing any mountains . I been in vegas couple of times bro but take a plane everytime this is the very first time I drive... So I'm gonna use the GPS on star turn by turn to get there....

I'm still debating what's the best time to leave, I'm out of work at 5:00 pm and dont want to get stuck to much in traffic....
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In short: Yes it can.

Basically: If one front tire looses grip or "slips" the car could pull the opposite direction as all of the grip has transferred to the other front tire. It is essentially doing the work of both tires, but it is on one side of the car causing the pull.....Now picture this happening back and forth as you drive down the road.. It could easily feel like it needs an alignment.

Add in rear wheel drive with a limited slip and you have a car that could be essentially "dancing" down the road in cold weather on the stock tires.

I like rear world examples: I got caught in a rain storm on the freeway in a my old 500hp Evo on grooved but worn race tires and no traction/stability. I couldn't go over 50mph without the car trying to kill me. It was all over the road and constantly breaking traction. I got home, swapped on the all season, went back out and cruised at 80 mph in the rain like everyone else (That is how we drive in Michigan )

I know they are expensive....but for those in colder climates a second set of wheels and tires (All season or snow depending on climate) to me is way cheaper in the long run vs. wrecking the car, paying a deductible and then owning a repainted or repaired car....

-Matt

Yeah I'm gonna invest on all season tires.... Maybe not at the moment cause the trip is planned already , and on a budget until I get my tax return... But what all season tires do ubrecommend that will fit the 1LE rims?

Also I only have 1235 miles in my 1LE should I do my free oil change before i embark on the trip? Or change the oil when i get back ?
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Mmmmmmm not Sure if I'm crossing any mountains . I been in vegas couple of times bro but take a plane everytime this is the very first time I drive... So I'm gonna use the GPS on star turn by turn to get there....

I'm still debating what's the best time to leave, I'm out of work at 5:00 pm and dont want to get stuck to much in traffic....
Where are you coming from? There was a damn lambo at smiths today so I am gonna assume you will be ok in town
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Where are you coming from? There was a damn lambo at smiths today so I am gonna assume you will be ok in town


Oxnard California, I have to take the freeway 101 to start of then ill use the GPS everyone told with speed limit it can be from 5 to 6 hour drive. and to be careful with speeding at the desert cause of cops
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Oxnard California, I have to take the freeway 101 to start of then ill use the GPS everyone told with speed limit it can be from 5 to 6 hour drive. and to be careful with speeding at the desert cause of cops
To avoid traffic, I would take the 101 to the 23N, then 118E, then 215E, to 15N to Vegas.

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Will the low temperature make the car feel like it needs an alignment? I have noticed the car will drift left or right once in a while in 30 degree weather. I only have 100miles on my car so i don't think it needs an alignment

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Could also just be the front tires tracking in ruts in the road. With 10" wide front tires the car is pretty sensitive to any imperfections in the road and will pull pretty hard sometimes to one side or the other if one front wheel settles into a lower section of the road and tracks into it. It's happened to me a few times already and can catch you off guard if you don't have a good grip on the wheel.
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Could also just be the front tires tracking in ruts in the road.......
Yes, 100% as well.....
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This is exactly what i have been experiencing. Thanks for the help guys

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Old 02-13-2013, 12:04 PM   #25
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To avoid traffic, I would take the 101 to the 23N, then 118E, then 215E, to 15N to Vegas.

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Greatly appreciated Michael, I belive that is the same route a friend of mine adviced me to take... I'm not to used of driving thru a lot if freeways, sound a bit complicated but ill manage it with the GPS
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