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Old 02-12-2013, 08:37 AM   #1
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Thinking about selling the Camaro for...

A White Diamond CTS-V,

Long story to this one, for anyone who's been following my build thread knows I have big mods coming this year and the Camaro would be quite the beast, but I'm also on the verge of selling it.

Since day 1 of my Kenne Bell installation I was having transmission problems, and KB was giving me and my tuner the run around, and that's been back in 2011. It would bang rev limiter, shut down as I'm getting off the highway, ect... Now the issue was with the kit (4.5 intake tube and A6 Camaro don't go well) and by the time we knew about Ted from Jannetty's fix about it, the damage has already been done.

So after the long two summers of having a half working car and trying to tweak around the issues, I became seriously frustrated with it. The transmission is toast, 2nd gear would hold on the dyno which is why we hoped it was still okay, but on the street was a different story. My tuner is going to be building my trans out of his pocket, plus selling me parts at his cost (another story for another time maybe). I think it's awesome that my tuner will do that, but on the other hand I almost lost amusement for my car. After going through such a headache with it, it's just not fun for me anymore.

So I've been contemplating selling the car and the parts I recently bought for it (I'd be happy to get about 37k for the car) and get myself a used White Diamond CTS-V Sedan, keep it stock or just add exhaust, and get rid of this whole headache I've been having. On the other side though, it would be seriously hard to get rid of the Camaro since I put so much time, effort, money, and my style into this car to make it my own. Decisions, Decisions...

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Old 02-12-2013, 08:41 AM   #2
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Selling a failed project car can be quite a task. I've done that once before and it was just as frustrating as the failed build.

Have you considered putting the car back together and then selling it? You may be able to move the sale along more smoothly.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:44 AM   #3
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Yes if i decide to sell it the trans is being rebuilt either way with JRE's intake and a retune.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:30 AM   #4
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I went through a simular situation with modding my old C5 vette...It was one thing after the other...mega wasted money...and by the time I got it at 90% right...it just was not enjoyable anymore. So I got lucky and sold it to buy a SS Camaro and promised the wife I wouldnt crack open the engine. Just added an axle back and called it a day. No headaches now and am much happier. I would take the loss and move on. Good luck either way!
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The CTS-V is a classy ride...
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:46 AM   #6
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Why not? Sounds like you would be happier, which would make everyone around you happier
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:14 PM   #7
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LOL I traded in my CTS-V (07) for my SS.. I regret it on somedays but I am happy, for now..I will have another V someday.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:21 PM   #8
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If you were getting the Coupe maybe. If I was trading for one it would have to be the coupe.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:29 PM   #9
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The CTS-V is a classy ride...
Ya but to me IMO if it's not a new Camaro it's just transportation.
Why not buy another new Camaro and pretty much leave it be- GM did such a good
job designing this car, hardly a bit of trouble after 3 1/2 years with mine.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:44 PM   #10
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Just do an engine swap and put an LSA in your camaro.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:56 PM   #11
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A sedan for a fun car just doesn't cut it for me regardless of how high performance it is but if I was to have a hi-po sedan the CTS-V is hard to beat.
Just wondering - is it the Camaro thats bugging you or the KB supercharger? From what you shared I read that the KB is what has caused your problems and that lead to the turn-off. Seems a shame to blame it on the car.
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:57 PM   #12
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Ya but to me IMO if it's not a new Camaro it's just transportation.
Why not buy another new Camaro and pretty much leave it be- GM did such a good
job designing this car, hardly a bit of trouble after 3 1/2 years with mine.
The Camaro can be difficult to live with as a daily driver....horrible visibility, huge, hard to park, giant doors, hard to get in and out of.

The CTS-V is absolutely not "just transportation".
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:02 PM   #13
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CTS-V is a great car. One of the only few cars I would get rid of the camaro for. I would personally go for the wagon tho.

End of the day, do what makes you happy. I am assuming the camaro is not your daily driver?
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:22 PM   #14
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Ya but to me IMO if it's not a new Camaro it's just transportation.
Why not buy another new Camaro and pretty much leave it be- GM did such a good
job designing this car, hardly a bit of trouble after 3 1/2 years with mine.
Because I find the Camaro BORING stock, yes I said that, and don't say "ZL1" because I would never buy one, never was impressed with it, just a fatter version of what I already have. If I wanted to stick with Chevy I'd get a Z06.

Besides, I love Caddys, always have.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:25 PM   #15
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A sedan for a fun car just doesn't cut it for me regardless of how high performance it is but if I was to have a hi-po sedan the CTS-V is hard to beat.
Just wondering - is it the Camaro thats bugging you or the KB supercharger? From what you shared I read that the KB is what has caused your problems and that lead to the turn-off. Seems a shame to blame it on the car.
With going through such a huge headache with something, you tend to loose interest in it as a whole. I bought the car back in May of 09 and it only has 12k miles, that's how little I drive it. I haven't been having any fun with the car for the past two summers. This is not my DD, but the V would become my summer DD.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:55 PM   #16
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Mcdoogle may i make a suggestion. Don't do anything and go to a auto show and check out whats out there. Keep an open mind i bet you will be surprised. The Camaro,Challenger and the Mustang are all doing remodels in the next few years as well. Good luck
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:40 PM   #17
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:53 PM   #18
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You're not happy. Sell it. Get what you want and don't look back.
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yeah man...cut your loses if its not enjoyable. We work too hard to pay for something we don't enjoy. And the CTS-V is a great sedan
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Yes.

V is literally an upgraded camaro. Better suspension, more luxurious, less noise, more power.

No one keeps a V stock btw. I bought mine with the idea of keeping it stock and in less than 1 hour I was tracking down someone to mod it. Ended up putting about $14k in mods into it at one go before I even drove it! Now it's a fun 600+rwhp sedan with 700+rwhp on race fuel.
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CTS-V all day long if you can do it and have it make financial sense with all the stuff you've done to your car.
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Dump it and move on. Life is too short to not be happy. Go find your next permagrin.
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A White Diamond CTS-V,

Long story to this one, for anyone who's been following my build thread knows I have big mods coming this year and the Camaro would be quite the beast, but I'm also on the verge of selling it.

Since day 1 of my Kenne Bell installation I was having transmission problems, and KB was giving me and my tuner the run around, and that's been back in 2011. It would bang rev limiter, shut down as I'm getting off the highway, ect... Now the issue was with the kit (4.5 intake tube and A6 Camaro don't go well) and by the time we knew about Ted from Jannetty's fix about it, the damage has already been done.

So after the long two summers of having a half working car and trying to tweak around the issues, I became seriously frustrated with it. The transmission is toast, 2nd gear would hold on the dyno which is why we hoped it was still okay, but on the street was a different story. My tuner is going to be building my trans out of his pocket, plus selling me parts at his cost (another story for another time maybe). I think it's awesome that my tuner will do that, but on the other hand I almost lost amusement for my car. After going through such a headache with it, it's just not fun for me anymore.

So I've been contemplating selling the car and the parts I recently bought for it (I'd be happy to get about 37k for the car) and get myself a used White Diamond CTS-V Sedan, keep it stock or just add exhaust, and get rid of this whole headache I've been having. On the other side though, it would be seriously hard to get rid of the Camaro since I put so much time, effort, money, and my style into this car to make it my own. Decisions, Decisions...

Any advice my fellow C5er's?
Been there w/ another car before this one and know the headaches. I would sell it. That`s why this time I wanted a ten second car that was reliable and ran like stock and built the car I have now, nothing but enjoyment, zero hassles. people always are like when are you gong to put a cam or a stall in it and I`m like it runs 10`s and I`m happy with it, lifes to short to be fixing breakages all the time and to running around in a car that doesn`t run right.

You could always sell what you have and duplicate my build. Would cost you 10k if you do most of the work, plus the cost of another SS. I would not try and "fix" the one you have, start fresh with a know commodity. I agree w/ you on the Zl-1 it just doesn`t do anything for me. The CTS-V`s are awfully nice and I can see myself in 1 in another 10 years, I gotta get a little older first though.

Good luck w/ whatever you decide, and keep us updated.
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:41 PM   #25
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CTS-v in my opinion has a more mature feel to it and drives better due to the fact it doesnt have that very awkward narrow window line that the camaro has. I also think the V will have a better resale value in the long run.
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