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Old 02-14-2013, 09:01 PM   #26
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I'd like to see a Supercharged Direct Injection 3800 V6 as an option.
IMO one of the best engine built.
Freedom of choice is soooo 1776. Get with the times!
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:59 AM   #27
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Freedom of choice is soooo 1776. Get with the times!
The times are changing backwards with massive 3.6 timing chain problems.
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Old 02-15-2013, 06:57 PM   #28
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Well, I've read that issue has finally been put to rest with the latest models, but yes...owners of vehicles using the LY7, or LLT from somewhere around mid 2000's through 2011, and MAYBE even the 2012 LFX have that to worry about.

But it should not be something to worry about for the future.

Come on GM...I want a 340HP V6 in a 3,400lb car, so I can mod it to 370 - 380 HP lol . That'd be one sweet little V6....all for mid to upper $20s
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:11 PM   #29
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Well, I've read that issue has finally been put to rest with the latest models, but yes...owners of vehicles using the LY7, or LLT from somewhere around mid 2000's through 2011, and MAYBE even the 2012 LFX have that to worry about.

But it should not be something to worry about for the future.

Come on GM...I want a 340HP V6 in a 3,400lb car, so I can mod it to 370 - 380 HP lol . That'd be one sweet little V6....all for mid to upper $20s
Yep. That would make a really fun daily driver. I would love to see a NA V-6 in the sixth gen myself.
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there will definitly be a v6 option
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:51 AM   #31
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there will definitly be a v6 option
I hope you are right. Time will tell!
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:42 PM   #32
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V8 is what most people dreamed of including myself when I bought my camaro but I settled for a V6 because of the $4.80/gallon here in SoCal. Besides, for most people 323 hp is more than enough. I also noticed the slight advantage with a V6 is that it's lighter and with suspension and intake upgrades, it's a good track car.
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:34 PM   #33
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Honestly the more I see it, look at all the V6s is in different cars, theyre putting out sold HP and fuel economy, I dont see why GM would remove the V6 option all together.
At the end of the day, the 2LS gets 30mpg
Cant expect a sports car to be getting 40mpg.
Thats why theyres different segments.
I think GM would be making a big mistake trying to dilute the Camaro for more fuel econ and yes I know the 4cyl Turbos can make a strong car but it also didnt make sense in the 5th gen, they tried it.
The v6 always seems to be the upper vairant to 4cyl models and I dont see that changing. Atleast I hope not.

Personally wouldnt want to HEAR a 4cyl Camaro, guess this is how the V8 guys feel about us
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:11 PM   #34
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Honestly the more I see it, look at all the V6s is in different cars, theyre putting out sold HP and fuel economy, I dont see why GM would remove the V6 option all together.
At the end of the day, the 2LS gets 30mpg
Cant expect a sports car to be getting 40mpg.
Thats why theyres different segments.
I think GM would be making a big mistake trying to dilute the Camaro for more fuel econ and yes I know the 4cyl Turbos can make a strong car but it also didnt make sense in the 5th gen, they tried it.
The v6 always seems to be the upper vairant to 4cyl models and I dont see that changing. Atleast I hope not.

Personally wouldnt want to HEAR a 4cyl Camaro, guess this is how the V8 guys feel about us
I hope they keep the V-6 as well...I sort of look at them these days as having the niche of the "small(er)" blocks that we can't get anymore...

With only one V-8 available, the V-6 more than amply fills the need for another engine option...Looks like the I-4 is gonna happen, just think if it kills the V-6, it's a classic case of fixing something that isn't broke...
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Old 03-18-2013, 12:07 PM   #35
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...New Caddy V-6 TT is out...looks awesome...
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:16 PM   #36
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One thing I would hate would be a 7 or 8 speed transmission since it would shift too much.
See if I've got this straight - people want tap-shift in order to emulate the 3-pedal conventional MT driving experience, but only to a point.


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Besides, if GM Camaro team is REALLY listening, as they have said they are, and the Camaro disciples have said they are, and Scott (Fbodfather) says they are, then this is a great outlet to show them what we want.
I'm sure that they're listening. What matters is how much weight they're willing to give the opinions of us enthusiasts relative to whatever the lowest-common-denominator transportation-appliance buyer expects.


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I'd like to see a Supercharged Direct Injection 3800 V6 as an option.
IMO one of the best engine built.
You do realize that the 3800/3.8/nee 231 is basically a late 1950's design, don't you? There is no longer sufficient reason for a V6 to have the V8's 90° design.


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Personally wouldnt want to HEAR a 4cyl Camaro, guess this is how the V8 guys feel about us
Sooner or later, somebody was going to say that. What's funny now that 4's of any configuration are likely, sixxer fans are actually starting to get support from the V8 segment.


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If the LT1 is 450hp and they offered a turbo 4 base engine, then maybe the tt 6 they have been working on around 370hp, that would be very cool.
TT to get only 370-ish HP because you can't be crowding the 450 HP V8 doesn't seem worth the effort. It would be even harder to justify as a midpoint between a NA V6 and the V8 than the NA V6 is between a turbo-4 and the V8.


Dunno, maybe an uprated NA V6 fitted as the manual transmission entry point and the turbo-4 with the automatics is a possibility. Still only two combinations to certify. The sixxer would be better at very low revs where you'd really rather not have to downshift no matter who you are (trust me on this point). And the AT would keep you out of such situations at least when driven in full automatic mode (like most buyers really would) and you'd be into boost almost instantly.


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Old 03-18-2013, 02:34 PM   #37
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Interesting.....
2014 Cadillac CTS to pack twin-turbo V6

Top engine option rated a 420 hp, uses 8-speed automatic


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Old 03-19-2013, 12:03 PM   #38
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With the next-gen architecture and thrust-to-weight ratio (not to mention fuel economy), only fringe Camaro customers (1%-ers?) would find a TT V6 "lacking". There's always the C7 Vette if "Ummmmm... well...... it's just not enough for me".

Having said that, the Camaro vs. Mustang rivalry might prompt V8 consideration amongst GM's "Car Guys and Gals".

We shall see...
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:57 PM   #39
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It'll be interesting to see it the TT V6 makes it into the next Camaro. My first instinct would be, no, it won't because TT V6 is going to be an expensive engine to build and the V8 offers similar performance for less money.

On the other hand, economies of scale would suggest that GM will try to recoup it investment in this TT V6 by offering it in more than just the CTS. Obviously, the ATS and the XTS are possible candidates for offering the engine. Some theoretical Alpha-platform Buick (Grand National?) might also be a possibility. And, then, of course, there's the Camaro. We'll see...
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LF3 TT6 is the next plug and play variant of high performance, coming to just about everything in a neighborhood near you in the not too distant future.
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Old 03-20-2013, 07:54 PM   #41
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GM needs to bring back the LL8 and put it in trucks and cars too.
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:42 AM   #43
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They will install an I4 in place of the current V6, since it will be able to get closer to the MPG mandate than a V6.
Alternatively, they could start up a program where they "refurbish" older cars for a reasonable price.

Since older cars are exempt from mandates, they could essentially pry off the VIN number from your trade-in and stick it onto a high-tech chassis with a big honkin' new V8, and make all the buyers happy.

If the nannies catch on and make sure that a certain percentage of the car is re-used, they could invent a way to melt down your old car and reform it into the new one.

I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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Still hoping for that 340HP 290TQ V6.

GM...give it to us in a 3,300 - 3,400 car. Would be SWEET!!
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Old 04-05-2013, 07:22 PM   #45
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Evidence of a new line of V6 engines in the works?? I think this could be pretty cool.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...75#post6387875

They talk about the "next gen" V6. I'm wondering if the 4.3 is considered part of this next gen of V6 engines? I'm guessing more use of DI, cam phasing, and cylinder deactivation across the line. I can see is now....."350 HP and 35 MPG highway" lol maybe not but I'd take it.

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I never thought that the V6 would be endangered. I was talking to my ex about the rumors around the 6th gen today (not that he cares but I love to torture, he is an ex after all) and mentioned that I thought they would probably do a turbo 4 with about 270-ish HP so it would not compete with the V6 and a new V6 pushing 340+.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:13 PM   #47
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If they put a 4 cylinder in the Camaro, they might as well make it a front wheel drive!
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Well...If we alll went by that logic, then there is really no point of this entire section concerning the 6th gen. We are human...we are curious and naturally excited about the new "thing" coming along. We want to provide our thoughts and input, so here it is.

Besides, if GM Camaro team is REALLY listening, as they have said they are, and the Camaro disciples have said they are, and Scott (Fbodfather) says they are, then this is a great outlet to show them what we want.
Well if we are showing them what we want, it ain't a 4 banger Camaro. Keep the V6, they get better every year. The 4 banger Impala and Malibu don't impress me.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:47 AM   #49
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Well if we are showing them what we want, it ain't a 4 banger Camaro. Keep the V6, they get better every year. The 4 banger Impala and Malibu don't impress me.
We could see both, and I wouldn't expect any Malibu or Impala to suit a Camaro driver.
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I also don't see the need for 6 cylinder, but only if they offer a 4 cylinder turbo Camaro.
Most people that buy a 6 cylinder Camaro care about MPG and that the car offers 300+HP.(Looks play a major part)
So with a 4 cylinder car with turbo the MPG would be pretty high and performance would be similar or better than what the V6 offers at the moment.
One thing I would hate would be a 7 or 8 speed transmission since it would shift too much.
I dont want nothing to do with a 4 banger , Keep the V6 put that twin turbo caddy engine in her and all will be great
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