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Old 02-20-2013, 02:10 AM   #26
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So whats the diff between these guys and trifecta?
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:20 AM   #27
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Read this thread on the new developments w/Trifecta:

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Old 02-20-2013, 10:46 AM   #28
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So whats the diff between these guys and trifecta?
As far as I can tell so far, only difference is that you can see your logs and what your tune is doing. I dont think its a big difference between them and trifecta if your na but I guess if your fi, its nice to see that everything is running smoothly
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As far as I can tell so far, only difference is that you can see your logs and what your tune is doing. I dont think its a big difference between them and trifecta if your na but I guess if your fi, its nice to see that everything is running smoothly
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:35 AM   #30
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Ok fair enough. I will still stick by what I said.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:04 PM   #31
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Man this is still a close call LOL i thought it would be an upset of a decision but lets keep this going, i have a month before i can make my final decision and i need all the help i can get from the pros on here. Thanks
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:55 AM   #32
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When i can afford it im going for SC for the instant and linear power curve it gives vs haveing to spool up a turbo. I know it take hp to run the SC but it still adds power no matter how you look at it.
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:48 PM   #33
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When i can afford it im going for SC for the instant and linear power curve it gives vs haveing to spool up a turbo. I know it take hp to run the SC but it still adds power no matter how you look at it.
Considering the current SC are centrifugal superchargers and give more power as the rpms rise, it's going to be almost like "spooling" up a turbo.
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:49 PM   #34
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When i can afford it im going for SC for the instant and linear power curve it gives vs haveing to spool up a turbo. I know it take hp to run the SC but it still adds power no matter how you look at it.
Turbo's used these days don't have the lag of a few years ago. I don't have this issue and made a video showing it. The problem that many have is that they don't build a kit according to the engine. If you pick the right turbo you will have no lag. Most just don't do the research and get the biggest thing out there thinking it's going to make good power.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:51 PM   #35
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Turbo's used these days don't have the lag of a few years ago. I don't have this issue and made a video showing it. The problem that many have is that they don't build a kit according to the engine. If you pick the right turbo you will have no lag. Most just don't do the research and get the biggest thing out there thinking it's going to make good power.
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Turbo's used these days don't have the lag of a few years ago. I don't have this issue and made a video showing it. The problem that many have is that they don't build a kit according to the engine. If you pick the right turbo you will have no lag. Most just don't do the research and get the biggest thing out there thinking it's going to make good power.


If you do it right you have power as soon as you go WOT and you keep it throughout the RPM range. Pick the wrong turbo and you have no lag but lose power on the upper end (too small) or you have to build the boost like a centri and end up with full boost at way up in the RPM range (too big). I think the centrifugals are a good solution, but let's be clear about trubo lag. That's a thing of the past with modern turbos. If you have lag then you didn't design the system correctly.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:17 PM   #38
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If you do it right you have power as soon as you go WOT and you keep it throughout the RPM range. Pick the wrong turbo and you have no lag but lose power on the upper end (too small) or you have to build the boost like a centri and end up with full boost at way up in the RPM range (too big). I think the centrifugals are a good solution, but let's be clear about trubo lag. That's a thing of the past with modern turbos. If you have lag then you didn't design the system correctly.
This is a misconception now as technology has advanced. Even a single turbo runs lag free if done right. Look at the HPS single turbo V6's.
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What's lag? Is that when I start the car or stop. It hard to keep it out of boost. I can only image how Can't does it with those tt.
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I'm glad you guys live so far away from me. I can dream that I have Phoenix's quickest V-6 and actually have some hope that it's true.

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What's lag? Is that when I start the car or stop. It hard to keep it out of boost. I can only image how Can't does it with those tt.
My baby has it's issues, but it is a hand full. Like I stated before granny shifting 1st-3rd (sometimes I don't even use 1st) is sad lol. But when my club members with SS ride I give them hell lol. Glad I don't have to drive her everyday lol.
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My friend Huey has a '10 LS-3 and I keep up with him quite nicely (I think I can beat him, actually). Just have to make sure I keep the revs up or he'll get the jump with the low end of the V-8. I'll try to get him to square off with me on a track soon. I'm going to need a new clutch anyway, sooner or later...

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When will the root supercharger be in the market?
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so i guess i might as well wait for the root super charger if i dont get the trade in for the V8
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:26 PM   #46
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so i guess i might as well wait for the root super charger if i dont get the trade in for the V8
Why not the centri units out now?

If at all possible, I would go with a good single or twin kit but since the tuning is just not there yet, I would honestly say to go with any kit that has good tuning behind it. That's the key to everything.
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Amen, the tune is the key ! If its a Bosch ECU need to make sure the tuner is familiar and has good files. Otherwise little glitches show up like stabilitrack errors when there's none.
There are people out there just mucking there way and will never get an oem type tune.
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Why not the centri units out now?

If at all possible, I would go with a good single or twin kit but since the tuning is just not there yet, I would honestly say to go with any kit that has good tuning behind it. That's the key to everything.
1.) Cost More

2.) More Maintenance

3.) Less Low end torque, (where its needed to move these heavy piggies)
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1.) Cost More

2.) More Maintenance

3.) Less Low end torque, (where its needed to move these heavy piggies)
1. Cost More? They are the same price.

2. More Maintenance? How?

3. Less Low end torque. Yes but too much low end torque and you're just going to be spinning anyway so what's the use. I would personally love some more low end torque but I already spin my tires pretty well, I can just imagine how bad it'll be with another 75-90 hp.
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1. Cost More? They are the same price.

2. More Maintenance? How?

3. Less Low end torque. Yes but too much low end torque and you're just going to be spinning anyway so what's the use. I would personally love some more low end torque but I already spin my tires pretty well, I can just imagine how bad it'll be with another 75-90 hp.
1.) Install takes longer, means more $$$ to the shop.

2.) More parts means more parts to break.

3.) Completely disagree with that statement. You might as well ask why Chevy makes makes a torquey V8 for the Camaro then.
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