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Old 02-16-2013, 08:18 PM   #1
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Difference in these headers?

What's the difference between these headers, or are they identical?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-Catted-E...item2328009bda

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-Catted-E...item2328009be9

also would i need to buy o2 sensor cables if i bought these?
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:33 PM   #2
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Don't see anything different, except one picture looks better than the other! Both the same size!
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:09 PM   #3
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Here are two headers on sale by a sponsor of this forum.
1 7/8's and 2" both the same price. Just saying.

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-2168-te...ro-ss-62l.aspx

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Here are two headers on sale by a sponsor of this forum.
1 7/8's and 2" both the same price. Just saying.

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-2168-te...ro-ss-62l.aspx

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-4012-te...ro-ss-62l.aspx
The 1 7/8 are out of stock till mid march but I agree that i'd much rather pay the little bit extra to get them from TSP. Great customer service is worth much more than the difference.
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What's the difference between these headers, or are they identical?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-Catted-E...item2328009bda

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-Catted-E...item2328009be9

also would i need to buy o2 sensor cables if i bought these?
No difference. Same brand, same company, same price. Dollar for dollar, you won't find a better price that comes with HF cats!! I have these headers and the OBX 3 inch exhaust!!
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:16 AM   #6
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No difference. Same brand, same company, same price. Dollar for dollar, you won't find a better price that comes with HF cats!! I have these headers and the OBX 3 inch exhaust!!
did you have too buy the oxygen senors separate?
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Old 02-17-2013, 07:45 AM   #7
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did you have too buy the oxygen senors separate?
You mean the extenders? Yea you would have to purchase them separately. I never bought the extenders tho, I just made the connectors reach. Probably better off with the extenders...
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did you have too buy the oxygen senors separate?
You use the sensors that are on the car now!
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Yes you'll only need the front two, you might end up buying them though because they tend to break due to GM not using a dab of antiseize on them.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:34 PM   #10
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You mean the extenders? Yea you would have to purchase them separately. I never bought the extenders tho, I just made the connectors reach. Probably better off with the extenders...
did all of the connections (4 i believe) require being extended, i would just buy the extenders just in case i decide to put the factory headers on for the sake of wanting to have to the car be stock again if i want.
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did all of the connections (4 i believe) require being extended, i would just buy the extenders just in case i decide to put the factory headers on for the sake of wanting to have to the car be stock again if i want.
I didn't have to extend any of them. The front ones tho are the ones that will be the most trouble reaching.
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:00 PM   #12
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I also have seen those listings, I am stuck between either one of those or this system
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200809478879...84.m1438.l2649
What do you guys think?
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Old 02-18-2013, 12:43 PM   #13
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I also have seen those listings, I am stuck between either one of those or this system
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200809478879...84.m1438.l2649
What do you guys think?
That's a pretty high price for a catless system from a less known company...at least I never heard of them. And they make some pretty bold claims. 55RWHP/50RWTQ...?? I don't know. I'd say go with OBX if money is an issue. Otherwise, go with TSP 2" headers. Although TSP is backed up for a while...so you'll have to wait for them.
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I got a set of Stainless Power Catless 1 7/8 Headers for 659 with out the x pipe. Supposed to be in today. They are a little more than TSP but available.

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Old 02-18-2013, 02:21 PM   #15
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I have OBX and they are great but I did have to buy the O2 wire extensions separate. If I remember correct the O2 extensions are about $40 for two. I think both the TSP and Stainless power include the extensions. You can't go wring with any of these choices and all will be about the same price. I believe Maryland speed had a pretty good deal on the Stainless Power headers with free shipping.
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has anyone had problems with the check engine light on these? ive heard some header applications set it off. Is a tune required for headers with high flow cats?
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YES!
Always a tune to fix the cel light and clean up your tune a lil bit.
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has anyone had problems with the check engine light on these? ive heard some header applications set it off. Is a tune required for headers with high flow cats?
ALL headers will cause a Check Engine Light. A tune is required.
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Am I missing something?

The TSP headers are $469?

For 1 7/8"?

Is there something wrong here? Stainless works is $1100 for the same thing.

Also, for a person with SW catback already (THR exhaust), what connections would I need? I want hi-flow cats. Is that the additional $250? Or are the cats on TOP of that price?

And would I need the Plug-n-Play O2 extenders?

Someone mind to educate and help me perhaps make a TSP purchase?
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Am I missing something?

The TSP headers are $469?

For 1 7/8"?

Is there something wrong here? Stainless works is $1100 for the same thing.

Also, for a person with SW catback already (THR exhaust), what connections would I need? I want hi-flow cats. Is that the additional $250? Or are the cats on TOP of that price?

And would I need the Plug-n-Play O2 extenders?

Someone mind to educate and help me perhaps make a TSP purchase?
That is the correct price for TSP WITHOUT HF cats and WITHOUT O2 extensions. Throw those on and the price goes up to 749.98. Then you have to add shipping and tax.
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That is the correct price for TSP WITHOUT HF cats and WITHOUT O2 extensions. Throw those on and the price goes up to 749.98. Then you have to add shipping and tax.
Ok, makes sense. Thanks!

And the value of the o2 extenders is? What purpose do they serve?

How does it sound relative to stainless works?

Warranty?

Do they do coating?
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Am I missing something?

The TSP headers are $469?

For 1 7/8"?

Is there something wrong here? Stainless works is $1100 for the same thing.

Also, for a person with SW catback already (THR exhaust), what connections would I need? I want hi-flow cats. Is that the additional $250? Or are the cats on TOP of that price?

And would I need the Plug-n-Play O2 extenders?

Someone mind to educate and help me perhaps make a TSP purchase?
As Blaq posted, they are $469 with offroad pipes. If you want cats, you'll have to add another $250. If you need O2 extensions, that's another $40.

What size is your SW catback? If is't the stock 2.5in diameter, you don't need anything else. It should just bolt right up. If it's 3in piping on your catback, you'll need the 3in cats.

Extensions are a plug and play extention to your OEM O2 wires so you don't have to mess with the wires to get them to fit. some people have unraveled the wire loom and found the needed length to make the fit. Some have cut and resoldered the wires longer to fit. The choice is yours.

Headers won't hurt your warranty. Tuning is where the warranty can be voided. Some dealerships are harsher than others so YMMV.

You can call TSP to see if they have a option for coating. They don't list it on their site but i'd imagine they could get it done for you.
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As Blaq posted, they are $469 with offroad pipes. If you want cats, you'll have to add another $250. If you need O2 extensions, that's another $40.

What size is your SW catback? If is't the stock 2.5in diameter, you don't need anything else. It should just bolt right up. If it's 3in piping on your catback, you'll need the 3in cats.

Extensions are a plug and play extention to your OEM O2 wires so you don't have to mess with the wires to get them to fit. some people have unraveled the wire loom and found the needed length to make the fit. Some have cut and resoldered the wires longer to fit. The choice is yours.

Headers won't hurt your warranty. Tuning is where the warranty can be voided. Some dealerships are harsher than others so YMMV.

You can call TSP to see if they have a option for coating. They don't list it on their site but i'd imagine they could get it done for you.
My exhaust is 3". Is that the same price? Is there a Texas speed contact I can speak with? Phone number?

And I will still need the car tuned? That's fine if so.

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ALL headers will cause a Check Engine Light. A tune is required.
OBX LT's, modded factory cat, and no tune. 7000 miles and NO CEL.....just saying.
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What do you mean modded factory cat?
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