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Old 02-19-2013, 10:45 PM   #1
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Long tubes?

I'm looking to get a set of long tubes and I've been looking at bbk because for one they are much cheaper than say kooks. I'm not going to run cats and it will have a 3in magnaflow cat back. How do the bbk headers compare to kooks or American racing performance wise? I will be on nitrous as well
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:27 AM   #2
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Don't cheap out on the Headers.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:28 AM   #3
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:33 AM   #4
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nothing wrong with bbk. there within your budget, and they work! lol and your going to get pretty much the same results then the $1500 headers soooo
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:36 AM   #5
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As long as they are 17/8 you're good i had 1 3/4 and the performance difference is pretty noticeable
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:37 AM   #6
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Don't cheap out on the Headers.
Don't get ripped off either.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:53 AM   #7
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Ive had them on my Camaro for a while. They are 1 3/4. As far as performance I dont think you leave a bunch on the table between the 1 3/4 or the 1 7/8. Someone did a comparison a while back and there was only a few hp difference between the 2.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:56 AM   #8
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For me.it was more throttle response than anything else, and I've heard its a better supporting mod if you go 1 7/8. But 13/4 is def a good mod for the price!
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:01 AM   #9
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For me.it was more throttle response than anything else, and I've heard its a better supporting mod if you go 1 7/8. But 13/4 is def a good mod for the price!
I agree the price is hard to beat. Dont want to start a whole debate but they are made in the US. To some it matters to some it doesnt. I am going to the 1 7/8 due to future mods. But with NOS im not sure if performance will suffer with the smaller 1 3/4.

Someone else can chime in on the NOS performamce gains or loses with diferent primaries.

With the BBK Headers, BBK intake, x pipe, and tune I was at 383 rwhp. 342 bone stock.L99.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:06 AM   #10
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Yea that's the same reason i went with 7/8 since future mods will really benefit from the extra air

Here's the results ted at jre got from his comparison if you want to take a look at it o.p.
Stock Peak Numbers 373 RWHP 378 RWTQ Stock Average Numbers I will post tomorow Forgot to print them.

1.75 long tube headers w high flow cats Peak 401.1 HP 403.8 TQ 1.75 long tube headers w high flow cats Average 281.2 HP 363.9 TQ

1.875 long tube headers w high flow cats Peak 406.8 HP 407.5 TQ 1.875 long tube headers w high flow cats Average 283.7 HP 366.6 TQ

2.0 long tube headers w high flow cats Peak 411.7 HP 408.9 TQ 2.0 long tube headers w high flow cats Average 288.1 HP 368.1 TQ

The 1 3/4 Headers did Surprisingly well. The 1 7/8 Headers IMO are the best all around header. The 2.0 Headers are neck and neck with the 1 7/8 but Slightly stronger from 5000 to 6300
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:12 AM   #11
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The dang search engine wont work on my tablet. Thanks for posting it up.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:13 AM   #12
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The Dynatech Headers are Very good as well and cheaper than the kooks units and are stainless steel and come with all fittings and gaskets.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:18 AM   #13
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Also check out Stainless Power 1 7/8( Stainless Works) . Stainless power is there over seas version. Comes with a warranty and is stainless steel. A few venders have them, Maryland Speed, I beleive has the best deal. $599 with free shipping. They include gaskets and other hardware. Others charge tax, shipping, and extra for O2 extentions.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:55 AM   #14
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I have BBK long tubes and they are worth every penny. High quality for a good price. the 1 3/4 gets slightly better low end performance then the 1 7/8's but you give up a 2-3 peak hp. Nothing you would notice on anything but a dyno.
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