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Old 02-20-2013, 05:30 PM   #1
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Stainless Power vs OBX vs TSP

There has been a lot of header talk here lately and these names are constantly tossed around. But for the most part these headers are trashed because they arent made here in the US. Aside from the country of origin what makes these headers so bad. Or one better than the other.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:38 PM   #2
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I know for a fact that Stainless Works is all about US production. Stainless Power is their discount brand that is outsourced, but I believe they're still made in the US. They just aren't made in-house.

I've heard mixed stories about OBX being a knock-off brand and also stories of them having good quality, which would make sense if they knocked off another brand's product. I have no idea where they are made.

I have no information on Texas Speed manufacturing.
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Apparently, the Chinese use a metal that is capable of spontaneous combustion. Also, there are shops that had soo many imaginary customers show up one day with defective headers that they abolished all sales of that particular brand. And some shops won't even install your headers if they see that it isn't Kooks or ARH. And this one time 2 years ago someone took pictures of one pair of headers from OBX and found some minor issues that had no significant impact on the performance or reliability of those headers. And everyone says that OBX is a knock-off...so it must be true...because you can't put anything on the internet if it isn't true. OH, and metal from China is not the same as metal from America. And did you know that some people aren't even allowed to say "OBX" (GASP)...?! So you know they must be just horrible if you can't even say the name. And a few days ago, some kid had imaginary fitment issues because his imaginary set of headers were leaking. We all tried to help him out, but alas, it was a lost cause...he had to throw the headers in the trash.

The OBX set I got came with no defects, they fit great, the install went perfect, they perform great, and they sound amazing with the matching 3 inch exhaust. But I must have just got a good set...I must have gotten lucky that day. I shoulda played the lottery instead...because chances of getting a good set of cheap headers are like darn-near nonexistent.
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:49 PM   #4
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Ive got a set of stainless power, they ve been on my car for about 2k miles. Never had a problem installing them they sound and look great. Can't complain here, and plus its pretty much the same SW header just not made here. I have no problem getting the same performance as the more expensive SW brand for hundreds less.
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I know for a fact that Stainless Works is all about US production. Stainless Power is their discount brand that is outsourced, but I believe they're still made in the US. They just aren't made in-house.
The Stainless Power and Stainless Works flanges and tubing are the exact same parts. They are manufactured from the same material (304L stainless steel) at the Stainless Works facility in Ohio. After those parts are made, some of them are welded in house and receive the Stainless Works brand and others are shipped out to be welded and they receive the Stainless Power brand.

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Ive got a set of stainless power, they ve been on my car for about 2k miles. Never had a problem installing them they sound and look great. Can't complain here, and plus its pretty much the same SW header just not made here. I have no problem getting the same performance as the more expensive SW brand for hundreds less.
Exactly. And for that very reason they have been EXTREMELY popular.
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The Stainless Power and Stainless Works flanges and tubing are the exact same parts. They are manufactured from the same material (304L stainless steel) at the Stainless Works facility in Ohio. After those parts are made, some of them are welded in house and receive the Stainless Works brand and others are shipped out to be welded and they receive the Stainless Power brand.
I appreciate your clarification.

I feel compelled to point out that I merely summarized the discussions on OBX in a brief statement. If OBX wants to come in here and defend their product as independently designed and produced in the United States or Canada, they are more than welcome to do so. I have no opinion as to the quality of the product aside from what I've read here.
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Why has no one addressed TSP?
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if you are going to go for budget headers (nothing wrong with that) select one that the company will stand behind...selecting a quality vendor that will stand behind it as well wouldnt hurt.

stainless and tsp have people that will answer the phone and hold themselves accountable. apex chase who has already given you some info is one of those vendors that will stand behind a product they sell.

aside from from some people who will rant and rave...there is a difference between american stainless steel and "other" countries stainless. i am sure you already know of the difference in craftsmenship.

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TSP are American made?
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No they are Not! BUT they do PAY THAT HEFTY sponsorship FEE!

So hey if you can use that to steer you that way they would appreciate it I'm sure, and so would be the owners of this site lol. Just my .2
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:48 PM   #11
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No they are Not! BUT they do PAY THAT HEFTY sponsorship FEE!

So hey if you can use that to steer you that way they would appreciate it I'm sure, and so would be the owners of this site lol. Just my .2
Is that a reply to me?

I don't understand much of what you said.....
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Apparently, the Chinese use a metal that is capable of spontaneous combustion. Also, there are shops that had soo many imaginary customers show up one day with defective headers that they abolished all sales of that particular brand. And some shops won't even install your headers if they see that it isn't Kooks or ARH. And this one time 2 years ago someone took pictures of one pair of headers from OBX and found some minor issues that had no significant impact on the performance or reliability of those headers. And everyone says that OBX is a knock-off...so it must be true...because you can't put anything on the internet if it isn't true. OH, and metal from China is not the same as metal from America. And did you know that some people aren't even allowed to say "OBX" (GASP)...?! So you know they must be just horrible if you can't even say the name. And a few days ago, some kid had imaginary fitment issues because his imaginary set of headers were leaking. We all tried to help him out, but alas, it was a lost cause...he had to throw the headers in the trash.

The OBX set I got came with no defects, they fit great, the install went perfect, they perform great, and they sound amazing with the matching 3 inch exhaust. But I must have just got a good set...I must have gotten lucky that day. I shoulda played the lottery instead...because chances of getting a good set of cheap headers are like darn-near nonexistent.
You wonder why every thread turns into a crap fest....way to set the tone.
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I love my tsp headers. And love dealing with tsp. Did lca tow rods Then headers to tail pipes, Then cam purchase. Then lowering springs. All awesome customr service. Even though i havent needed any because it has been perfect from the start
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Is that a reply to me?

I don't understand much of what you said.....
Sorry I hate quoting. Yes it was to answer your TSP question. The rest was just my personal opinion on what the OP was asking.
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Apparently, the Chinese use a metal that is capable of spontaneous combustion. Also, there are shops that had soo many imaginary customers show up one day with defective headers that they abolished all sales of that particular brand. And some shops won't even install your headers if they see that it isn't Kooks or ARH. And this one time 2 years ago someone took pictures of one pair of headers from OBX and found some minor issues that had no significant impact on the performance or reliability of those headers. And everyone says that OBX is a knock-off...so it must be true...because you can't put anything on the internet if it isn't true. OH, and metal from China is not the same as metal from America. And did you know that some people aren't even allowed to say "OBX" (GASP)...?! So you know they must be just horrible if you can't even say the name. And a few days ago, some kid had imaginary fitment issues because his imaginary set of headers were leaking. We all tried to help him out, but alas, it was a lost cause...he had to throw the headers in the trash.

The OBX set I got came with no defects, they fit great, the install went perfect, they perform great, and they sound amazing with the matching 3 inch exhaust. But I must have just got a good set...I must have gotten lucky that day. I shoulda played the lottery instead...because chances of getting a good set of cheap headers are like darn-near nonexistent.
Hey!
I thought we were gonna be cool about this? LOL
If the ones that come in other than "the usual suspects" we were gonna avoid threads taking a dump. Lets be coooool
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You wonder why every thread turns into a crap fest....way to set the tone.
Maryland, I was just funnin around. These arguments DO tend to get kind of funny. So why not laugh at it every now and then??



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I thought we were gonna be cool about this? LOL
If the ones that come in other than "the usual suspects" we were gonna avoid threads taking a dump. Lets be coooool
Haha, I'm sorry. I thought you guys would know I was kidding. But looking at my post, I can see how it would look like I'm being an ass. But just to clear it up, I was just poking fun at some of the things that were said back and forth. And believe me, I've said some pretty stupid things that can be turned into a joke also. So...my bad...
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Sweeeet! Now I won't have to post a pic of me fingering anyone! Lol

Jeff you can continue trolling and antagonizing us now.

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I looked at all 3 of these brands. I know 2 people in my club who recently installed the OBX LT's and are more than happy at this point. And several people who are happy with the TSP.

I probably would have gone with the TSP myself had i not come across a ridiculous deal on a set of barely used Stainless Works on this board last week.
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Based on what I've seen and heard, TSP is made in China. It should have been relatively straight forward figuring the price compared to SW and SP and the such that are made in America.

As for them being made in china, well, that certainly leaves variables and mistakes that are possible. However, from a LOT of people I've spoken to, TSP headers are good quality, the TSP employees are very responsive to questions from a customer, and overall the experience from TSP is good.

At least this is what i've gathered.
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Apparently, the Chinese use a metal that is capable of spontaneous combustion. Also, there are shops that had soo many imaginary customers show up one day with defective headers that they abolished all sales of that particular brand. And some shops won't even install your headers if they see that it isn't Kooks or ARH. And this one time 2 years ago someone took pictures of one pair of headers from OBX and found some minor issues that had no significant impact on the performance or reliability of those headers. And everyone says that OBX is a knock-off...so it must be true...because you can't put anything on the internet if it isn't true. OH, and metal from China is not the same as metal from America. And did you know that some people aren't even allowed to say "OBX" (GASP)...?! So you know they must be just horrible if you can't even say the name. And a few days ago, some kid had imaginary fitment issues because his imaginary set of headers were leaking. We all tried to help him out, but alas, it was a lost cause...he had to throw the headers in the trash.

The OBX set I got came with no defects, they fit great, the install went perfect, they perform great, and they sound amazing with the matching 3 inch exhaust. But I must have just got a good set...I must have gotten lucky that day. I shoulda played the lottery instead...because chances of getting a good set of cheap headers are like darn-near nonexistent.
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I installed my Stainless Power headers today. Finish was awesome and it was a breeze. Much easier this time. They really changed the tone of my car. Which is a good thing. Took the rasp out. But so far I am impressed with them. The over heating issue afterwords wasnt so fun.
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