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Old 02-23-2013, 10:55 PM   #1
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E85?

So I was just curious how E85 would affect the engine, say if I put in a tank of E85 and then the next week a tank of 93 Octane is my main worry. I just dont know alot about it. I do know it generally gives more power to cars ( like a higher octane gas ) But that would really just be a side benefit.

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Old 02-23-2013, 11:21 PM   #2
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HUH? E85 will not work in any production Camaro at all!!

1. The fuel system is not made to handle it.
2. The ECM has no calibration to run it.
3. Idiocy is generally not warrantable!
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:28 PM   #3
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I figured it would mess with the ECM/fuel system, I just wasnt sure, most new cars are made to be compatable with it I guess Chevy decided it wasnt popular enough Oh well, I will probably have a new fuel system eventually anyway thanks for the info
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Yes, the fuel system can not handle it. Stoich for E85 is like 9.6:1 compared to the 14.7:1 of gas. The stock injectors can not handle that, and you will run severely lean since the engine is trying to run at 14.7, not 9.6. E85 also eats rubber fuel lines and plastic, so youd be leaking, everywhere. Its not magical racing gas that you can put in when you want.
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Old 02-23-2013, 11:32 PM   #5
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HUH? E85 will not work in any production Camaro at all!!

1. The fuel system is not made to handle it.
2. The ECM has no calibration to run it.
3. Idiocy is generally not warrantable!
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Yes, the fuel system can not handle it. Stoich for E85 is like 9.6:1 compared to the 14.7:1 of gas. The stock injectors can not handle that, and you will run severely lean since the engine is trying to run at 14.7, not 9.6. E85 also eats rubber fuel lines and plastic, so youd be leaking, everywhere. Its not magical racing gas that you can put in when you want.

THey are lying. Do it. Take plenty of vids so we can see what happens

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Old 02-23-2013, 11:37 PM   #6
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Lol!! Ya, go ahead, and be sure to report back!
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THey are lying. Do it. Take plenty of vids so we can see what happens



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Old 02-24-2013, 06:14 AM   #8
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I figured it would mess with the ECM/fuel system, I just wasnt sure, most new cars are made to be compatable with it I guess Chevy decided it wasnt popular enough
the LFX engine (not sure about the V8's) is E85 compatible, the rest of the fuel system isn't.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:39 AM   #9
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Yes, the fuel system can not handle it. Stoich for E85 is like 9.6:1 compared to the 14.7:1 of gas. The stock injectors can not handle that, and you will run severely lean since the engine is trying to run at 14.7, not 9.6. E85 also eats rubber fuel lines and plastic, so youd be leaking, everywhere. Its not magical racing gas that you can put in when you want.
Haha why do you think I asked, like I said I do not know much about E85 I was curious, eventually I will probably replace the fuel system eventually anyway so guess I will look into it then, Thanks for the info
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:49 AM   #10
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From My 2010 owners manual.
8-46:
"Gasolines containing oxygenates,
such as ethers and ethanol,
and reformulated gasolines
might be available in your area.
We recommend that you use these
gasolines, if they comply with the
specifications described earlier.
However, E85 (85% ethanol) and
other fuels containing more than
10% ethanol must not be used in
vehicles that were not designed for
those fuels."
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:14 PM   #11
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=E85 also eats rubber fuel lines and plastic, so youd be leaking, everywhere.
You must believe everything you read on the internet. Eats plastic... lmao. What do you think the fuel tank is made of.



E85 won't hurt a single thing in your fuel system. You will need bigger injectors (and pumps) and a tune to run it.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:19 PM   #12
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On the stock calibration you could run up to about 30% ethanol and the long term fuel trims will compensate even at WOT without a CEL. Mixed 3:1 E10 93 and E85 would be around 29% E and 96 octane. I ran E47 last summer pre TVS, now I've upgraded the fuel system and plan on going up to E85 blown this summer.

It's not going to destroy the fuel system. I ran E85 in my WS6 for years.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:40 AM   #13
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You must believe everything you read on the internet. Eats plastic... lmao. What do you think the fuel tank is made of.



E85 won't hurt a single thing in your fuel system. You will need bigger injectors (and pumps) and a tune to run it.
Thanks for that I assumed I would need a tune, I just wasnt sure about the injecters/pumps and all of that. I wish I knew everything about this car but I feel like i hardly know anything
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:42 AM   #14
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On the stock calibration you could run up to about 30% ethanol and the long term fuel trims will compensate even at WOT without a CEL. Mixed 3:1 E10 93 and E85 would be around 29% E and 96 octane. I ran E47 last summer pre TVS, now I've upgraded the fuel system and plan on going up to E85 blown this summer.

It's not going to destroy the fuel system. I ran E85 in my WS6 for years.
Thanks, still a bit fuzzy on all of this, basically I have gathered don't put E85 in it until fuel system upgrade, and tune obviously
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While I was at the dealer before they went to fill my free tank of gas:

Me: "Make sure you put premium in please, it's recommended in the manual"
Salesman: "Actually the car will run the same on 87 as 93, no GM vehicles require premium"
Me: "uhhh...idk about that, but still just put a half tank of premium in if its a cost issue"
Salesman: "The car is even e85 compatible"
Me: "Nevermind, the free tank of gas isn't that important" *takes keys from salesman*
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:50 AM   #16
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While I was at the dealer before they went to fill my free tank of gas:

Me: "Make sure you put premium in please, it's recommended in the manual"
Salesman: "Actually the car will run the same on 87 as 93, no GM vehicles require premium"
Me: "uhhh...idk about that, but still just put a half tank of premium in if its a cost issue"
Salesman: "The car is even e85 compatible"
Me: "Nevermind, the free tank of gas isn't that important" *takes keys from salesman*
Wow you would think some of these salesman should at the very least know what fuel the cars they are selling should have.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:55 AM   #17
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Wow you would think some of these salesman should at the very least know what fuel the cars they are selling should have.
I was willing to let the 87 vs 91/93 comment slide because it does have the different fuel maps (regardless of power loss) but as soon as he said e85, I bolted.
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On the stock calibration you could run up to about 30% ethanol and the long term fuel trims will compensate even at WOT without a CEL. Mixed 3:1 E10 93 and E85 would be around 29% E and 96 octane. I ran E47 last summer pre TVS, now I've upgraded the fuel system and plan on going up to E85 blown this summer.

It's not going to destroy the fuel system. I ran E85 in my WS6 for years.
Please send us your VIN so I can note that in our warranty files!!


do not run E85 in Camaro. The fuel systems and calibrations are not suitable for E85 and you WILL deteriorate and ruin the fuel systems.....
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ guess that answers the issue....
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^ Lol that's what I was thinking
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ guess that answers the issue....
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^ Lol that's what I was thinking
most people here already knew that I think. there just seems to be a determined few that want to believe they can run E85 in their cars.
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While I was at the dealer before they went to fill my free tank of gas:

Me: "Make sure you put premium in please, it's recommended in the manual"
Salesman: "Actually the car will run the same on 87 as 93, no GM vehicles require premium"
Me: "uhhh...idk about that, but still just put a half tank of premium in if its a cost issue"
Salesman: "The car is even e85 compatible"
Me: "Nevermind, the free tank of gas isn't that important" *takes keys from salesman*

best sales men ever haha
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2012 were supposed to run on E85 but at last min production decided not to....
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do not run E85 in Camaro. The fuel systems and calibrations are not suitable for E85 and you WILL deteriorate and ruin the fuel systems.....
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