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Old 06-22-2009, 08:56 AM   #51
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It sounds better stock than what THR did.. At least from what I can hear in the low sound quality clip all things being equal. Did you want to make it more quiet at idle and louder when you hit the gas??
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:42 AM   #52
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It sounds better stock than what THR did.. At least from what I can hear in the low sound quality clip all things being equal. Did you want to make it more quiet at idle and louder when you hit the gas??
Its actually quite a bit louder throughout the range.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:16 AM   #53
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Sitting in traffic yesterday and a guy in an Infiniti starts honking at me. I roll down the window and he says "Beautiful car is that the stock exhaust? I love the sound of it its so cool." So I guess not everyone thinks it sounds like shit. LOL
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:43 AM   #54
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could use a little bit more low tone rumble.

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Sitting in traffic yesterday and a guy in an Infiniti starts honking at me. I roll down the window and he says "Beautiful car is that the stock exhaust? I love the sound of it its so cool." So I guess not everyone thinks it sounds like shit. LOL
Not everyone wants to hears you coming 3 blocks away. My days of loud pipes ended with my Harley's going away. Could use slight low grumble upgrade but I get lots on compliments on the stock exhaust. It's like the radio up grade. How much more do you want it to be. I really haven't cranked it out yet...I like the sound of the car more!
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:06 AM   #55
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Sorry not a fan of the sound at all..... At idle it almost sounds like my buddies EVO.
Sorry, I'm not digging it as well. Just my opinion.
I'm more of a fan of the Stainless Works exhaust.
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:06 PM   #56
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LOL. You don't ask for much Doc. I'll see what I can do. Tag just strap it to the roof of your car. It will create downforce and we can put you on the ricer page. Looks like it would be easy for them to cut it at existing welds and fit it right into a box or two. Just have them scribe it first for alignment in case you ever need it put back. I told the wife I'm going to decorate the gameroom in early 5th gen parts and make it manland.
Well the stock system isn't all one single piece is it? I was interested in how much a stock muffler, stock cats and one side exhaust manifold weighs. I can multiply that times 2 to get the total weight. I'm trying to estimate the weight savings going from stock to something like the ARH header system with their cats and possibly a Loudmouth2 muffler.

Since some of you have already replaced your setups and the stock system is out and loose, I was just asking (if it's not a hassle) to weigh a few pieces if possible. A simple way to do that is take a bathroom scale and weigh yourself; then pick up one of the pieces and stand on the scale again; note the new weight and subtract your weight.

If the whole system is welded together as one gigantic piece well it may be too heavy to lift then, but that in itself tells me something.
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:26 PM   #57
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Sorry, I'm not digging it as well. Just my opinion.
I'm more of a fan of the Stainless Works exhaust.
Enjoy your car.
bad news. My exhaust is a stainless works marketed under the THR name. If you can tell the difference then kudos to you. Doc I'll try to get the catback weight for you tomorrow. Got to get the car cleaned up. Can't have Mrs. Tag riding in a dirty car tonight
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Old 06-27-2009, 03:24 PM   #58
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Doc, the catback portion of the stock exhaust weighs 70lbs according to my bathroom scale. What you see in my pics is all welded together. Here's a pic of it sitting on a 2x4 saw horse so you can see the balance point. There is a lot of weight in those mufflers so it would be interesting to know what my aftermarket system weighs. Perhaps Tom Henry or Stainless works can weigh their catback system and give us a weight of it for comparison.
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Old 06-27-2009, 07:48 PM   #59
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bad news. My exhaust is a stainless works marketed under the THR name. If you can tell the difference then kudos to you. Doc I'll try to get the catback weight for you tomorrow. Got to get the car cleaned up. Can't have Mrs. Tag riding in a dirty car tonight
Is it really? Maybe it's just the recording? My bad. I'm a big fan of Stainless Works. They do a lot with the pro-touring scene.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:17 PM   #60
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Doc, the catback portion of the stock exhaust weighs 70lbs according to my bathroom scale. What you see in my pics is all welded together. Here's a pic of it sitting on a 2x4 saw horse so you can see the balance point. There is a lot of weight in those mufflers so it would be interesting to know what my aftermarket system weighs. Perhaps Tom Henry or Stainless works can weigh their catback system and give us a weight of it for comparison.
Wow that's a lot of weight and those stock mufflers are huge! They must weigh about 25 lbs each! I'm gonna guess with the Loudmouth 2 or something equivalent you're gonna save at least half that weight for those alone. Are the stock exhaust manifolds cast iron? The headers should be a lot lighter.

This is good info, thanks for taking the time to do this!!!

The reason why I keep asking for weights everywhere is I'm looking at every reasonable way to reduce car weight to increase performance. If I can reduce the weight by 181 lbs that's the equivalent of adding 20 hp.
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Old 06-28-2009, 06:45 AM   #61
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I'm surprised they don't weight more.

Anyway - to each his own. I don't like the sound of these at all. And the TH boys will hate me for this, but.... what's with the fit & finish there on the cans? The pipes look great. Nice smooth bends, no bender marks. But the cans look like something you can get at Speedy. If I'm paying that much for a system I think it should look a bit better than that. I don't expect full polished but come on. The huge Borla can under my truck has a much better appearance.

Anyway - as I said, to each his own.
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Old 06-28-2009, 07:02 AM   #62
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Doc, the catback portion of the stock exhaust weighs 70lbs according to my bathroom scale. What you see in my pics is all welded together. Here's a pic of it sitting on a 2x4 saw horse so you can see the balance point. There is a lot of weight in those mufflers so it would be interesting to know what my aftermarket system weighs. Perhaps Tom Henry or Stainless works can weigh their catback system and give us a weight of it for comparison.
Hey Mr. Wonderful - ha !

Thanks for posting all of your great pics and info in this thread, they are really helpful and just plain cool. (I am installing the SW system on my car today - so really, Thank You!)

I personally like your stock system on the saw horses in your back yard. I think you just need to move them permanently into your front yard and call it "Iron Horse" or "Stainless Horse" and tell everyone you spent hours on that fine piece of artwork.

Don't worry about the naysayers. EVERYONE has an opinion. If you had wanted the stock sound you would have kept the stock exhaust. I think your car sounds excellent. A performance car should have a performance exhaust. Nice.

Now you and TAG can go have some fun.
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Old 06-28-2009, 09:10 AM   #63
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Is it really? Maybe it's just the recording? My bad. I'm a big fan of Stainless Works. They do a lot with the pro-touring scene.
Enjoy the car!!
Two of the videos on the sight were done with my camera. The first one was an automatic. Probably a different sound cause it's a different engine and was taken indoors. Tags car is a full headers to tip system so again different sound plus different camera and conditions. Like I said mine is louder than stock and yet the neighbors won't be complaining about it either. No drone on the highway so overall I'm really happy with it. Of. Course since I got that I couldn't complain when the wife ordered that custom shower door the other day. What's wrong with a curtain? Must be estrogen
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Two of the videos on the sight were done with my camera. The first one was an automatic. Probably a different sound cause it's a different engine and was taken indoors. Tags car is a full headers to tip system so again different sound plus different camera and conditions. Like I said mine is louder than stock and yet the neighbors won't be complaining about it either. No drone on the highway so overall I'm really happy with it. Of. Course since I got that I couldn't complain when the wife ordered that custom shower door the other day. What's wrong with a curtain? Must be estrogen
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All three kids gone and the wife and I hit the road for a getaway week. Reached 1500 miles on a 2 lane country highway. Went to pass a car and dropped it down to third. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Holy moly. Someone tell fbodfather my wife is demanding an oh shit handle for the passenger side. Took the exit for hocking hills state park area. Twisting curving hilly roads with 55mph limit. Sooooooo much fun. Gps took us on a single lane cowpath. Dodging downed trees. Washouts and spitting gravel. Rosie is filthy. Wife says if i post pics you will all come after me wash is going to have to wait. Going to look for some good Camaro photo ops. Already got a third gen and some old 50's or so rusted trucks scoped out for companion shots. Btw during the massage today I got a helga and MaryMac got a heidi. I think she scheduled it that way.
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All three kids gone and the wife and I hit the road for a getaway week. Reached 1500 miles on a 2 lane country highway. Went to pass a car and dropped it down to third. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Holy moly. Someone tell fbodfather my wife is demanding an oh shit handle for the passenger side. Took the exit for hocking hills state park area. Twisting curving hilly roads with 55mph limit. Sooooooo much fun. Gps took us on a single lane cowpath. Dodging downed trees. Washouts and spitting gravel. Rosie is filthy. Wife says if i post pics you will all come after me wash is going to have to wait. Going to look for some good Camaro photo ops. Already got a third gen and some old 50's or so rusted trucks scoped out for companion shots. Btw during the massage today I got a helga and MaryMac got a heidi. I think she scheduled it that way.
Ummm.... I was gonna ask for pics but it's already sounding NSFW lol. I'm guessing a helga and heidi isn't some kinda mixed drink. At least she didn't schedule you for a thor and heidi hehehe
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Old 06-30-2009, 06:55 AM   #67
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From the pics, it looks like they were able to remove the stock exhaust without cutting it up. Is this true? I am planning the same conversion, but want to save the stock system for the future (40 years from now when these cars are classics).
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do a vid of it under a load. want to hear how it sound while going down the street.
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Yes bolt off bolt on. Will try to do a video under power if I can get the wife to agree to let me leave her on side of road. Tons of deer here. Car in front of me made one do some gymnastics and take a nap last night. We almost hit two calves. Couldn't find a house to tell the farmer he had a broken fence line. Hearded them back with the horn and a few revs. Will start a more appropriate photo thread when I get back
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270 miles tonight. Pulled in to my brothers at midnight. Heading further south in the morning to my buddies place to start the rally stripe process. He recently painted a Z06 for a guy so he bought extra gm black to do my stripes with. He's a mustang guy but I've seen enough of his work to trust him. Besides he can't freaking believe GM built a car that looks this good. I'll take pics of the process and maybe if you Ohio guys like his work I can set you up. Post pics when I get home
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Sorry I didn't get to chat to long yesterday Jamie. . . it was a very busy phone day for me. . .

Hope the drone with the back seats down didn't get to bad. . . You can alway turn up the radio louder.
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Yeah I'm giving myself a bump. Added some pics of the rally stripe paint process after the exhaust pics
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Those stripes look fantastic! That guy did a fabulous job!! Perfect width of the main stripes, perfect width of the pinstripes. How much did this cost? I really like this look.
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Those stripes look fantastic! That guy did a fabulous job!! Perfect width of the main stripes, perfect width of the pinstripes. How much did this cost? I really like this look.
To be honest Doc I don't really know. We worked out a trade for the labor. He painted and I get to overhaul and reskin an aileron and rudder from a crashed plane and he'll get his money from the plane owner. He's supposed to be working me up a price based on his hours and materials so that I can let others know if they are interested. He pretty much does anything automotive but painting is his favorite.
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Sounds good ,, I noticed you did not put a crossover pipe in the new configuration (if it is there I cant see it). You will be very surprised at the amount of "popping" that is reduced with this cross over tube added to the system. It will also give a little less drone pitch cruising. Roger
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