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Old 02-25-2013, 03:22 PM   #1
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ARH Headers...

So everyone who will install headers only will sell ARH so with that said... How hard is it to install headers yourself, such as TSP, Stainless Power, Stainless Works...

I.E any special equipment needed?
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http://www.stainlessworks.net/media/...ns%2012701.pdf

Here is a link to the Stainless Works instructions. Stainless Power would be the same.
If you go this route, I'll make you a great deal!
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i cant tell u about tsp but the dynatechs slide right in and come with detailed inst.
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if i had it to do over agin though i would have saved alot of money and got the tsp headers
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So everyone who will install headers only will sell ARH so with that said... How hard is it to install headers yourself, such as TSP, Stainless Power, Stainless Works...

I.E any special equipment needed?
No special tools needed. It is fairly straight forward but, like most projects, it helps to have an assistant.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:45 PM   #6
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What would be a good price installed and tuned on ARH headers w/cats, stopping at the cats
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the quotes ive gotten just seem high for something everyone says is an easy install >.<
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tune costs money...you really need to install your high quality headers yourself. all you need is a torque wrench
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I dont wanna mess with it but i dont want to have to buy top tier headers to have them installed by reputable shops :/
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:51 PM   #10
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How's it any different installing $2000 headers vs $600 headers? I don't understand what your questioning.
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:56 PM   #11
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A higher lift jack, jack stands, a decent wrench set (u-joints are helpful) a torque wrench and you should be good to go. I did it over a few days time while i was working 6 on 12 off shift work.
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How's it any different installing $2000 headers vs $600 headers? I don't understand what your questioning.
what header costs 2k?
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What would be a good price installed and tuned on ARH headers w/cats, stopping at the cats
This is what I got going on:

1200 for ARH 1 7/8 w/HFC (leaving the stock catback for now)
225 for ceramic coat
300 for install
500 for JRE tune
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So everyone who will install headers only will sell ARH so with that said... How hard is it to install headers yourself, such as TSP, Stainless Power, Stainless Works...

I.E any special equipment needed?
To answer your question...headers on this car are easy to install. Soo easy that paying someone else to do it is equivalent to wiping your rear with the money and flushing it. Regardless of the brand or price. And you don't need any special tools. If you want the ARH, then order them and give yourself a good day to tackle it...between 2 and 8 hours. Now I'm not sure if the shops that sell them will only sell them if you also pay to have them install them. I would check around. Maybe they will charge you a bit more for the header if you choose to do the install yourself. But even if, you will still save money doing your own install...and you can brag to others about it when you show them. Otherwise, you can just order the cheaper brands that will charge the same price regardless of who installs them. Either way you can't really go wrong because you will ultimately save money.
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I dont wanna mess with it but i dont want to have to buy top tier headers to have them installed by reputable shops :/
One chap had Mr Muffler slam the header on real cheap, another Bloke had Muffler Man throw-on the header for just a couple of bucks, one stripped a couple of header bolts, the other somehow cracked both collectors at the welds (he thinks the headers fell off from the lift during installation), you pick?
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I dont wanna mess with it but i dont want to have to buy top tier headers to have them installed by reputable shops :/
damn those reputable shops for only wanting to work with quality parts damn them!!!!!!!!
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One chap had Mr Muffler slam the header on real cheap, another Bloke had Muffler Man throw-on the header for just a couple of bucks, one stripped a couple of header bolts, the other somehow cracked both collectors at the welds (he thinks the headers fell off from the lift during installation), you pick?

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damn those reputable shops for only wanting to work with quality parts damn them!!!!!!!!
There are extremes on both ends. I've had a very reputable shop around here quote me $2,000 for an engine swap in my 03 Mustang GT in. They had been featured in magazines and such. Their name is Crazy Horse in South Amboy. Guess what? They did the most horrible and unprofessional job I had ever seen. It took them over 2 months. Parts were missing. I had 2 MAF sensors I left with them that I never seen again. The exhaust wasn't hooked up. Sensors were left disconnected. I even had to go back in the shop to find parts that weren't on my car. Years later, a small shop quoted me $900 to do an engine swap in the same car. They were the local All Tune and Lube. They did it in less than a week and did a spectacular job. I mean, they even cleaned the engine compartment. Not one issue or problem with their work ever since then. Trust me, it isn't always about being reputable.
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There are extremes on both ends. I've had a very reputable shop around here quote me $2,000 for an engine swap in my 03 Mustang GT in. They had been featured in magazines and such. Their name is Crazy Horse in South Amboy. Guess what? They did the most horrible and unprofessional job I had ever seen. It took them over 2 months. Parts were missing. I had 2 MAF sensors I left with them that I never seen again. The exhaust wasn't hooked up. Sensors were left disconnected. I even had to go back in the shop to find parts that weren't on my car. Years later, a small shop quoted me $900 to do an engine swap in the same car. They were the local All Tune and Lube. They did it in less than a week and did a spectacular job. I mean, they even cleaned the engine compartment. Not one issue or problem with their work ever since then. Trust me, it isn't always about being reputable.
you mean the guys that did pimp my ride dont do good with mechanical stuff?

if people think being on tv, a magazine or a internet forum means reputable they are doing it wrong
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Well it would seem that only 1300 dollar steel is quality when I'm sure over half of the headers people have put on are not ARH kooks or SW and I don't think tsp are bad but the only way I can do those is if I install myself and I'm not too comfortable with that and I've asked like 4 shops and they will only do ARH might have Togo with ARH but dunno why all these shops won't go with other brands and will charge 500 to slip these premium headers on since they are such a good fit and all....
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Well it would seem that only 1300 dollar steel is quality when I'm sure over half of the headers people have put on are not ARH kooks or SW and I don't think tsp are bad but the only way I can do those is if I install myself and I'm not too comfortable with that and I've asked like 4 shops and they will only do ARH might have Togo with ARH but dunno why all these shops won't go with other brands and will charge 500 to slip these premium headers on since they are such a good fit and all....
where are you seeing arh for 1300? you can shop and find better deals.
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you mean the guys that did pimp my ride dont do good with mechanical stuff?

if people think being on tv, a magazine or a internet forum means reputable they are doing it wrong
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where are you seeing arh for 1300? you can shop and find better deals.
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Bro. If you don't want to do it yourself. Buy your headers online and just pay a reputable shop to install them. Install price is anywhere from say $250-$300 Then get it tuned however you want or don't for that matter. Up to you.

Just because a shop may only carry ARH doesn't mean they won't install your SW, TSP, KOOKS set up. To top it off your in TX. Pretty sure there are about eleventy billion LSX shops around you within decent driving distance.

Last resort. Post up in the TX forum and offer beer and pizza for wrench turning gear heads in your area to come over and lend a hand. Might make some new friends and have a good time as well.
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Bro. If you don't want to do it yourself. Buy your headers online and just pay a reputable shop to install them. Install price is anywhere from say $250-$300 Then get it tuned however you want or don't for that matter. Up to you.

Just because a shop may only carry ARH doesn't mean they won't install your SW, TSP, KOOKS set up. To top it off your in TX. Pretty sure there are about eleventy billion LSX shops around you within decent driving distance.

Last resort. Post up in the TX forum and offer beer and pizza for wrench turning gear heads in your area to come over and lend a hand. Might make some new friends and have a good time as well.
If you have enough time and patience, you can probably find a good deal on here from another forum member. I did the install myself last year, the most difficult part was disconnecting the steering column. ARH are more expensive because they can be. I asked them about it and they said, "We're on the COPO Camaro". It's really not a difficult task. Like it was said before, make a few friends and bribe someone with food, drinks, and something naked. Maybe not yourself, but something more attractive. I'd offer my help if I was closer.
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what header costs 2k?
I should have said exspensive header or lower cost header. Figured I would get the point across on why did it matter on the cost.
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Bro. If you don't want to do it yourself. Buy your headers online and just pay a reputable shop to install them. Install price is anywhere from say $250-$300 Then get it tuned however you want or don't for that matter. Up to you.

Just because a shop may only carry ARH doesn't mean they won't install your SW, TSP, KOOKS set up. To top it off your in TX. Pretty sure there are about eleventy billion LSX shops around you within decent driving distance.

Last resort. Post up in the TX forum and offer beer and pizza for wrench turning gear heads in your area to come over and lend a hand. Might make some new friends and have a good time as well.
mr dave gave the best advice...especially the last part. i would help you if you were local
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