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Old 02-25-2013, 06:30 PM   #1
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Stage 8 Fasteners

I have a set of ARH 1 7/8 I am installing. Looking at get some of these Stage 8 Fasteners so that the bolts don't come loose. Tried to do some research, but not sure what I need. Anyone else use these and know who I can order these from?
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:32 PM   #2
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saw those on stacey david's show one time. jeg's or summit man. post up what you think...I was thinking about them too. They're pricey, be ready.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:37 PM   #3
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We used them a few times. Nice product.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:39 PM   #4
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I have them. You can buy them at Texas Speed for like $38
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:40 PM   #5
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I've gone onto summit racing and http://www.stage8.com/gm.html But I am unsure what part number I need. Seems like it will be about $50 or so which isn't bad. I am just not sure what I need.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:42 PM   #6
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http://texas-speed.com/p-427-stage-8...bolts-hex.aspx

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http://texas-speed.com/p-428-stage-8...-12-point.aspx


Either will work fine. Your choice. Hex head or 12 point.
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Thank you.
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No problem. They work well. Also the stock bolts from GM work well too. You can reuse yours. If you want top of the line at a premium price. That would be ARP. Those run about $100
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So whats the difference between ARP and Stage 8?
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If your just wanting to make your cars bay look nice then yes it's worth it but they are a PITA. If your worried about the bolts backing out then just use the stock ones cause they won't back out as long as you torque them right.
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If your just wanting to make your cars bay look nice then yes it's worth it but they are a PITA. If your worried about the bolts backing out then just use the stock ones cause they won't back out as long as you torque them right.
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If your just wanting to make your cars bay look nice then yes it's worth it but they are a PITA. If your worried about the bolts backing out then just use the stock ones cause they won't back out as long as you torque them right.
Your saying ARP is a pita or Stage 8 is the pita? Since this is a summer/show car I would like the engine bay to look nice. One of the guys I talked to said that I will need to retighten my bolts if I choose to go with the OEM bolts and I know that he torqued them down to the correct specs.

Also I notice that ARP has studs and bolts. What would be easier of the two for installation and also look good?
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:58 PM   #13
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I've used Stage 8 before, but I prefer the split lock bolts.


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So whats the difference between ARP and Stage 8?
Stage 8 is grade 8 steel with "locks"

ARP is hardened Stainless steel. Stronger and more heat, corrosion resistant.

Honestly it is all up to you. Stock bolts work just fine and you could re use yours. Or you can buy the locking type that can be a bit of a hassle but do work. Or go with the ARP . All depends on what you want and what you want to pay.

Use OEM gaskets and torque bolts down properly from the inside out and you will be fine. Simply check them again after a bit of driving to ensure they are set proper. This SHOULD be done on ANY new bolt down of parts.
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The Stage 8's are bud, I see the ARP's might be a Lil easier.
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So now I am looking at ARP. Seems like it has a cleaner look to it. Anybody have direct links to what I need for my L99? I think I am going more for the ARP Bolts and not the studs.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:13 AM   #17
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One of the guys I talked to said that I will need to retighten my bolts if I choose to go with the OEM bolts and I know that he torqued them down to the correct specs.
It's common practice to go back over any exhaust installation to make sure the bolts didn't loosen up with the constant heat and vibration. You should just have to recheck them once. I guess the stage 8 bolts wouldn't need that but it's not like it's a PITA to spend 15min with a Tq wrench, checking the 12 header bolts. FWIW, not a single one of mine was below tq specs after 1k miles. I'm using the OEM bolts as well. I've never heard of anyone having a issue with the OEM gasket or bolts.
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Stage 8s are good in theory and poor in practice. Will they prevent a bolt from loosening (out)? Yes. But what happens when they get a little loose? Now you have a bolt being fatigued for no reason and a stupid metal clip digging into your header. At that point the bolt is already useless, tighten it and it will just come loose again. 16 rattling reasons for the knock sensors to pick up false knock is not my idea of a good time. Nothing wrong with factory bolts.
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Arent there only 10 bolts
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Arent there only 10 bolts
I had to look at a pic from Jannetty. There are 12 holes in the header flanges.
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I'm curious if anyone has ever had a leak from the stock bolts and stock header gaskets becuase I havent heard about any problems. Seems to me stock has worked really good.
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i went stock and had no probs at all
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Old 02-26-2013, 10:46 AM   #23
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We will only use new GM factory exhaust manifold gaskets on all header installs. They are usually much better quality than anything you will get with the header.

We always use anti-seize on either the bolts that come with headers or the factory bolts. Tighten them down correctly (center working out side to side), get it hot once or twice, recheck them, and they will usually stay tight with no problem. If you're worried about it, check it a year later, but we've never had problems using anti-seize; plus you will be grateful you did when you take them off for whatever reason down the road. While ARP and Stage8 bolts do look nice, IMHO they aren't worth the cost unless you go with a super cheap set of headers.

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I have Stage 8 locking header bolts on my car currently, not as big as a "PITA" as some may make it seem. There's really nothing difficult about bending a metal tab against your flange. After breaking an OEM bolt, and having to re-torque them down after my LT install (heat cycles), I didn't want to deal with the oem bolts anymore, so I got the Stage 8's from TSP.
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