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Old 02-27-2013, 06:34 PM   #1
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Cold Air Intakes are a bust?! Video**

Not sure if this was posted, but I feel maybe a little foolish in buying my CAI. But I guess it makes the car sound better...

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Old 02-27-2013, 06:40 PM   #2
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Take your car to a dyno and see if it really was a bust...
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:43 PM   #3
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Wrong. It's been proven over and over on the dyno and the track.
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yup i have been ridiculed on many threads for saying cais are over rated.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:45 PM   #6
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Well this should create a lot of bickering. Funny this should be posted today because my CAI inc intake just came today and I am putting it in tonight.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:57 PM   #7
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It's been proven over and over on the dyno and the track.
There is plenty of relevant third party data available. Those two goof balls are far from authorities.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:13 PM   #8
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Looks like they do concede a 1.5% power gain!! But it will take a bit more than that to shake up the times at the track. Apparently it would take more than 10% or 40 HP increase to really make a difference. FAR more than the gains from my CAI even claims. Again, I'm fine with my purchase. It looks cool and sounds better. If I really want to shake things up I'll get a supercharger instead!
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:15 PM   #9
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Looks like they do concede a 1.5% power gain!! But it will take a bit more than that to shake up the times at the track. Apparently it would take more than 10% or 40 HP increase to really make a difference. FAR more than the gains from my CAI even claims. Again, I'm fine with my purchase. It looks cool and sounds better. If I really want to shake things up I'll get a supercharger instead!
Guess you bought one of the lesser brand CAIs it is a flat night and day difference that the dyno has proven over and over by 3rd party testers.
On mine the mid range came alive and you can actually feel the difference.
15hp is a serious gain for such an easy part.

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Old 02-27-2013, 07:23 PM   #11
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:56 PM   #12
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Lol those 2 guys even said that superchargers were a myth!
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:02 PM   #16
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In my opinion, the addition of a CAI is simply a single part of a total package that needs to be added.

The amount of air you can pass through an engine is what determines the amount of power that an engine can produce. Now thats a very simplistic statement but lets keep it simple here.

If you want to get more power, you need more air, so you free up the intake (CAI) and you free up the exhaust with LT headers, HF cats and custom cat back exhaust.

If you really want to boost the power you do both these things and add either a freeer breathing cam or a forced air induction system.

If you want to get crazy, you do both to cram as much air through the engine as possible, of course mixed with the proper amount of fuel.

Simply put, the CAI is one feature that needs to be used in conjunction with many other items to get the best gains from your engine.

Putting a CAI on a stock car with no other changes would likely not make much difference at all, especially on a very small 2.0 L engine.

There have been so many reputable shops here on C5 that have done test after test proving what the CAI actually do that its kind of a waste of time to debate it anymore. Been proven by quality third party testers.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:27 AM   #18
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:11 AM   #19
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:23 AM   #20
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Wrong. It's been proven over and over on the dyno and the track.
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:54 AM   #21
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Having spent 15 years selling cold air kits for every imaginable car, I have yet to have anyone complain about them. I have personally seen track times and dyno pulls on everything from a Dodge Dynasty to a Duramax z71 that confirm more power.

I added a CAI brand intake to my 2SS the other day and so far it doesn't feel any stronger to me, but it's much smoother taking off now with almost no jerk like to used to be if I was lazy off the clutch, but I can confirm my gas mileage has gone up 2mpg, so it's definitely doing something.
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Easiest way to pick up a good bit of power. I'll be glad to do a before/after if anyone wants a dyno session!
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Not sure if this was posted, but I feel maybe a little foolish in buying my CAI. But I guess it makes the car sound better...

1. For everything that you believe in, or has been tested, or proven, I can probably find something on the internet that says the exact opposite, that does not mean it is true. This goes for everything from landing on the moon to people who can "test" and prove that we live in a matrix. Take things with a grain of salt.

2. Also anyone who knows anything about testing knows that controlled and non controlled variables play a huge result in your findings, meaning I can test the same thing 2 different ways and get 2 different sets of results.

3. I am pretty sure that I would put a little more faith in the testing and proven results from hundreds of car builders, drag racers, engine builders, speed shops, and thousands of happy customers over 2 guys who get paid to test things to capture an audience for ratings.

4. I would put a little more stock into testing like this: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107002

Have a little faith in the guys who do Cold Air Intakes for a living, and test things every day, not 2 guys working for a TV show. That being said, rest assured your CAI is giving you more power, and well worth your investment.
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