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Old 03-02-2013, 11:08 PM   #1
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Question on what CAM?

I'm looking to get in a cam and not spend $500. I'm not going to ever do FI. Headers and gears and tune eventually.

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Old 03-02-2013, 11:43 PM   #3
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It's a DD...won't ever see a track
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:48 AM   #4
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no track time? keep stock cam or ls9 cam. american made headers with a quality intake and a tune done by a pro. people have issues with the ls3 oil pump if you want to replace that for piece of mind. also upgraded chain wouldnt hurt.

but seriously if no track time and daily driver should do all the bolt ons first before you go to internals...bolts may be enough for your application, and if not they are crucial supporting mods to anything else. goodluck
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:26 AM   #5
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You should do the headers first. Then do an Ls7 cam and good tune. Make sure you get the correct length pushrods and call it a day. The LS7 cam is the same specs as the LS9 cam with a tighter lobe seperation angle. It will make more TQ and make power at higher revs than the stock cam.
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:31 AM   #6
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i second that. i would for sure do bolt ons first. you may be content with the new found power and not have to cam
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Yep I agree! Are you wanting to do the Cam first for any particular reason?
If not, finish the bolt ons first. If you do cam I am pretty sure you will have to pay for a tune at that time. Plus you will want to upgrade oil pump and chain for piece of mind with all the failures. I dont see this happening for under 500.

Headers will give a little bit of power and a better sound!

And if that dont work do this! haha

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Old 03-03-2013, 08:59 AM   #8
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Yep I agree! Are you wanting to do the Cam first for any particular reason?
If not, finish the bolt ons first. If you do cam I am pretty sure you will have to pay for a tune at that time. Plus you will want to upgrade oil pump and chain for piece of mind with all the failures. I dont see this happening for under 500.

Headers will give a little bit of power and a better sound!

And if that dont work do this! haha
would this help my mpg as well
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:24 AM   #9
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I'm looking to get in a cam and not spend $500. I'm not going to ever do FI. Headers and gears and tune eventually.

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air in and air out is always the first step .. finished off with a good tune
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I am not sure.. you would have to factor in the Gas usage of the leafblower also and 2 stroke oil to mix haha

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Old 03-03-2013, 10:10 AM   #11
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I am not sure.. you would have to factor in the Gas usage of the leafblower also and 2 stroke oil to mix haha

damn i think that will put me over budget haha
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:19 AM   #12
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I'm looking to get in a cam and not spend $500. I'm not going to ever do FI. Headers and gears and tune eventually.

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1) You live in the "People's Republic of California"
2) you don't want headers now
3) you don't want gears now
4) you don't want to to tune it now
5) your budget is 500 for a cam
6) it's your daily driver
7) you obviously don't have money to play bud.
Shit still happens, especially cutting corners and budget building. Either you do once and do it right or be prepared to spend twice.
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1) You live in the "People's Republic of California"
2) you don't want headers now
3) you don't want gears now
4) you don't want to to tune it now
5) your budget is 500 for a cam
6) it's your daily driver
7) you obviously don't have money to play bud.
Shit still happens, especially cutting corners and budget building. Either you do once and do it right or be prepared to spend twice.
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:43 PM   #14
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Yep I agree! Are you wanting to do the Cam first for any particular reason?
If not, finish the bolt ons first. If you do cam I am pretty sure you will have to pay for a tune at that time. Plus you will want to upgrade oil pump and chain for piece of mind with all the failures. I dont see this happening for under 500.

Headers will give a little bit of power and a better sound!

And if that dont work do this! haha
I guess I should've clarify...yes I am doing headers first. Looking at kooks or Stainless Power...not sure if the extra $ is worth it for kooks and definitely a tune with this. Then Cam...I was just trying to figure out what Cam would fit my needs. I already have an Intake.


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1) You live in the "People's Republic of California"
2) you don't want headers now
3) you don't want gears now
4) you don't want to to tune it now
5) your budget is 500 for a cam
6) it's your daily driver
7) you obviously don't have money to play bud.
Shit still happens, especially cutting corners and budget building. Either you do once and do it right or be prepared to spend twice.
I know this State is definitely going to hell...I love the weather but Politics suck! Maybe I should move to Texas! :flag2:

I do have money to play...I just don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a Cam and was seeing what others were using. Obviously different Cams for different needs. But your advice is appreciated.

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You should do the headers first. Then do an Ls7 cam and good tune. Make sure you get the correct length pushrods and call it a day. The LS7 cam is the same specs as the LS9 cam with a tighter lobe seperation angle. It will make more TQ and make power at higher revs than the stock cam.
sounds like good advice!



Thank you all for your advice...going to search for more info on headers and a tune!
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I do have money to play...I just don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a Cam and was seeing what others were using. Obviously different Cams for different needs. But your advice is appreciated.



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Its really not a ridiculous amount of money for what you get.
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Its really not a ridiculous amount of money for what you get.
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:05 PM   #17
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you can get a decent cam under $500...there and many out there. but its the supporting mods that go with it that quickly run the price up. replacing bolts, gears, chains, valve springs, push rods...its not as simple as buying a cam and calling it a day. be prepared to spend around $1200 total including additional parts. just look up any of the "cam kits" and you will quickly see the necessity items that go WITH the cam. if your doing the install yourself, great, as long as you have the tools. but the tune...that'll cost you too. generally starting at a minimum of $400 for just the programmer and additional $$$ for the tune itself.

so with a complete "cam kit" and tuning and extras like fluids expect your "cam budget" to be right around $2000...and you can probably just about double that if you pay to have the work done at a shop. some places will do a complete CAM only package at a fairly reasonable price to include tuning for under $3000.

or a COMPLETE package for $5200:
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but seeing how you live in CA...good luck with any of that when it comes inspection time.
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7) you obviously don't have money to play bud.
Without a college degree or at least 2 years experience in anything you're pretty much stuck with low paying dead-end fast food jobs, or a bag boy or cashier at a grocery store.....

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Old 03-03-2013, 05:11 PM   #19
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Yea...I have a hook up for the inspection.

Definitely prepared to spend $2,000-$3,000 on a complete "cam kit"! Just looking at what kind of cam and what price.

Thank you for the advice! I really do appreciate it!
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A lot of the posts have given good advice. To do a cam correctly is going to be around $1300.00. This is after headers and hi flo cats. No use doing a cam before you can get the increased air flow out. I think your wasting your money on an LS7 or 9 cam. Same effort to install and you don't get much of an increase. I had Vengeance install there Stage II cam and the drivability is good. Look around at what some of the cars on here are running and PM the owners and ask questions about how there car drives is the best answer I can give you.
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buy a cam 500 bucks or less
buy springs 200-300
push rods 100
tune 300-500
install 300-500
bolts gaskets and antifreeze 50
just guessing on prices. i had this done for around 1200 bucks . but diff areas means diff prices
the other stuff is for piece of mind. i didnt do anything else but what i listed above to my car. i know a few others that did the same and doing fine . just know that if someone else does it for u , do research on them and ask around .
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:40 PM   #22
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What kind of hp are you looking for? Top end...mid range. tq vs hp.

There are quite a few options out there...lethal, vengeance, jre, lg...or you can hit up ed curtis and get a custom grind based on your setup and end goal. Thats what I did...I'll be posting my specs and numbers after install in a few weeks.
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You can run the cam that I have, its a newer Lunati voodoo ground for the ls3 heads. I am running this cam with the stock valve train... its only .565 lift and ground on a 112. With headers and a tune its making around 450 at the wheels, has a nice lope at idle and the drivability is not much different then stock. Little88 knows my car, its runs hard and the cam has been in my car for a year now with 10k miles, no issues.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:18 AM   #24
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As litle said do it right the first time. I installed a small cam and now im about to go back in to install bigger cam and stall.

Man you LS3 guys have it easy on cam installs. My whole set up was over 5000.
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Give us a call & we can go over options with you. It helps to discuss the car & goals with you & from there we can put you together a good combo that will make the best possible power for your goals & $$$.
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