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Old 03-03-2013, 11:23 PM   #15
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Mine had this issue. These cars are made with huge slack in the drivetrain. I personally do t think its you. I've driven nothing but sticks for 10 years and never heard any drivetrain slack noise before. It's caused by being made cheaply. It's incredibly annoying and changing how you drive can get rid of the noise. It's mostly from the 2 piece flywheel. There is a spring inside it that winds up and springs loose.

And shifting in reverse. Just wait 2-3 seconds and you should be good.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:24 PM   #16
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it all has to do with it being a hydraulic system clutch, they just are not as consistent as the cable type, but they don't wear on you near as much
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:49 AM   #17
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Ok I'll give that a shot. When I shift to reverse it should be more seamless? I might be waiting too long to make sure I don't end up in 5th instead of R.
It won't be as likely to happen in reverse...practice smooth engagement, and some of the tips offered in here. You'll figure it out in time...that's the biggest thing - time.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:17 AM   #18
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You shouldn't really have to think about how to drive your car all the time so you can stop the car from making an annoying noise. Mine makes it if I down shift, especially if I let the clutch out fast. When it happens at low speeds (like what you guys are talking about) like at a red light or stop sign its a bit embarrassing. Hey look at that nice car wonder whats wrong with it, or that guy can't drive. Really wish they could do something to fix it. Main reason why I want to sell this car as soon as I can.
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You shouldn't really have to think about how to drive your car all the time so you can stop the car from making an annoying noise. Mine makes it if I down shift, especially if I let the clutch out fast. When it happens at low speeds (like what you guys are talking about) like at a red light or stop sign its a bit embarrassing. Hey look at that nice car wonder whats wrong with it, or that guy can't drive. Really wish they could do something to fix it. Main reason why I want to sell this car as soon as I can.
I disagree. Practice makes perfect. No two cars have the same setup, especially with manual transmissions. And I don't care how expert a person is with manual transmissions, it will take some time (if only minutes for the protégés among us) to work out the "character traits".

Be mindful that we might not be talking about exactly the same thing, here. What does yours do when downshifting? ....If you've been to the dealer to eliminate the possibility of any mechanical problems - you may just need to be mindful of what you're doing. Eventually, it'll become habit, and you won't think any more.
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:44 AM   #20
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When I downshift it is almost impossible for my car not to make a clunk sound, so I wont downshift, and Im not going 60 mph and dropping it into 2nd gear just a normal downshift. Like I said the dealer, neither of them would even take the car into the shop and check and see if there was something else wrong with it they just said it was normal characteristic of the car (drive line clunk). I did drive others but they were no where near how loud mine is and it was hard even to make the sound in some of them. So I think there could be something else wrong with mine or a way just to make it like the other ones I drove.
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I disagree. Practice makes perfect. No two cars have the same setup, especially with manual transmissions. And I don't care how expert a person is with manual transmissions, it will take some time (if only minutes for the protégés among us) to work out the "character traits".
100% true. There is a lot more to learn about a manual car than how to drive it without stalling. After a year of "getting used to it", I can drive my M6 more smoothly than my wife's auto G37... especially at low speeds.
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When I downshift it is almost impossible for my car not to make a clunk sound, so I wont downshift, and Im not going 60 mph and dropping it into 2nd gear just a normal downshift. Like I said the dealer, neither of them would even take the car into the shop and check and see if there was something else wrong with it they just said it was normal characteristic of the car (drive line clunk). I did drive others but they were no where near how loud mine is and it was hard even to make the sound in some of them. So I think there could be something else wrong with mine or a way just to make it like the other ones I drove.
It sounds like you might not be rev-matching quite well enough (easier said than done). Mine will clunk while downshifting if I don't match the revs pretty close to perfect. It also doesn't like it if you take the throttle away too soon after downshifting.
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:28 AM   #23
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I disagree. Practice makes perfect. No two cars have the same setup, especially with manual transmissions. And I don't care how expert a person is with manual transmissions, it will take some time (if only minutes for the protégés among us) to work out the "character traits".

Be mindful that we might not be talking about exactly the same thing, here. What does yours do when downshifting? ....If you've been to the dealer to eliminate the possibility of any mechanical problems - you may just need to be mindful of what you're doing. Eventually, it'll become habit, and you won't think any more.
It's not him. It's the craptastic car. Mine did it too. It's because of huge tolerances in all the different parts of the drivetrain and the flywheel being made cheaper than a McDonald's happy meal toy. They aren't supposed to turn more than 15 degrees yet a brand new one can turn almost 180 degrees. I saw it with 2 of them out of the box. The noise is the flywheel flopping back and forth. Mine was lemon lawed over the noise and the garbage transmission with huge tolerances in it. It's a noise a dealer should try and repair not a noise the driver learns to drive around. Only an idiot would think that. It's unreasonable to think a brand new car needs a completely different driving style. How come ONLY a 5th gen v6 m6 makes this noise out of all the cars made and driven every day????
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:05 PM   #24
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Thats where I'm at now with it. Dealer isn't any help called 1 800 number and esculated it and they told me that there was nothing they would do because the dealers are there ears and they feel its fine and basically to bad if Im unhappy with it. So I just let the car sit in my garage for now. How did you even lemon law this problem. I cant even get the dealers to take it up on the lift and check things out on it.
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It's not him. It's the craptastic car. Mine did it too. It's because of huge tolerances in all the different parts of the drivetrain and the flywheel being made cheaper than a McDonald's happy meal toy. They aren't supposed to turn more than 15 degrees yet a brand new one can turn almost 180 degrees. I saw it with 2 of them out of the box. The noise is the flywheel flopping back and forth. Mine was lemon lawed over the noise and the garbage transmission with huge tolerances in it. It's a noise a dealer should try and repair not a noise the driver learns to drive around. Only an idiot would think that. It's unreasonable to think a brand new car needs a completely different driving style. How come ONLY a 5th gen v6 m6 makes this noise out of all the cars made and driven every day????
My father in-law's 07 Shelby GT does it. From what I've read, LOTS of other cars do it too. I can't say for sure, but it doesn't feel like the flywheel flopping back and forth. It feels like IRS drivetrain slack. You can get the car bucking if you don't put a stop to it.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:31 PM   #26
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It's not him. It's the craptastic car. Mine did it too. It's because of huge tolerances in all the different parts of the drivetrain and the flywheel being made cheaper than a McDonald's happy meal toy. They aren't supposed to turn more than 15 degrees yet a brand new one can turn almost 180 degrees. I saw it with 2 of them out of the box. The noise is the flywheel flopping back and forth. Mine was lemon lawed over the noise and the garbage transmission with huge tolerances in it. It's a noise a dealer should try and repair not a noise the driver learns to drive around. Only an idiot would think that. It's unreasonable to think a brand new car needs a completely different driving style. How come ONLY a 5th gen v6 m6 makes this noise out of all the cars made and driven every day????
I respectfully disagree completely.

You're jumping to invalid conclusions about both the quality of this car, and the manufacturing of other manual transmission cars. One situation does not represent the other 500,000 5th gen Camaros out there...

The little clicking you can hear if you're not smooth enough in 1st gear is normal as normal gets.

UNLESS....we're talking about two different noises. It sounds like you had a bigger issue - and I don't think the focus of this thread this is the same thing.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:55 PM   #27
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I can make mine happen in any gear and its not just a little click like the other cars I drove its a loud clunk. It just makes it be an unpleasant ride, so I rather not drive it. But if its fine than somebody can buy it and maybe it won't annoy them. Any reasonable offers I would listen to
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I can make mine happen in any gear and its not just a little click like the other cars I drove its a loud clunk. It just makes it be an unpleasant ride, so I rather not drive it. But if its fine than somebody can buy it and maybe it won't annoy them. Any reasonable offers I would listen to
And you've taken that to the dealer?
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