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Old 03-05-2013, 05:20 PM   #1
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Tire Noise at 75 mph plus

Anyone else noticed this. Don't hear anything under 75, but then it comes on and build some as speed increases. Thought it was the exhaust note at first, but then realized it did not matter what rpm. Putting clutch in and rpms dropping to under 1000 you can really hear it.....almost feel it. As speed drops under 75 it goes away. Really annoying as I'm frequently on the interstate....not that I drive over 75
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:27 PM   #2
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All your pressures reading ok?
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:35 PM   #3
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What he said. Check your tires and make sure your readings are good. If you've got alot of miles on them already, it may be time to get new ones. That was my case... Good luck..
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:27 PM   #4
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780 miles, pressures all read 35-36 after driving a few miles. Can't isolate the sound to any given corner. There is no pulling to any side or vibration like you might feel with a poorly balanced wheel/tire. All original weights from initial balancing are in place....hmmm

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Old 03-05-2013, 06:38 PM   #5
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should be 32
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:52 PM   #6
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I've heard it too...kind of a roaring sound which increases as you gain speed. You can feel it as well as hear it.
I believe it to be a combination of the tires grabbing the road and the aerodynamics of the 1LE. I enjoy the sound, it puts a permagrin on my face.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:57 PM   #7
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should be 32
They are 32/33 cold..they get up to 35/36 before long.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:00 PM   #8
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I've heard it too...kind of a roaring sound which increases as you gain speed. You can feel it as well as hear it.
I believe it to be a combination of the tires grabbing the road and the aerodynamics of the 1LE. I enjoy the sound, it puts a permagrin on my face.
Apparently others just don't drive fast enough to test it out!
Come on guys, go grab a brief stretch of highway, turn the radio off, and make a quick run 60-85 or so and report back
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They are 32/33 cold..they get up to 35/36 before long.
Yes my bad
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:19 PM   #10
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The specific pavement surface and it finishing may have something to do with it.

As may the camber settings for any or all of the wheels. Keep in mind that the G.2 Goodyears are an asymmetric tread pattern which might not sound the same at all values for operating camber. (You can measure static camber yourself by various DIY methods, which should be pretty close to what the car runs at out on the highway)

Keep also in mind that the car may not actually have the OE-preferred camber settings. The factory defines a range of what's acceptable for a reason.


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Old 03-05-2013, 07:55 PM   #11
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The specific pavement surface and it finishing may have something to do with it.

As may the camber settings for any or all of the wheels. Keep in mind that the G.2 Goodyears are an asymmetric tread pattern which might not sound the same at all values for operating camber. (You can measure static camber yourself by various DIY methods, which should be pretty close to what the car runs at out on the highway)

Keep also in mind that the car may not actually have the OE-preferred camber settings. The factory defines a range of what's acceptable for a reason.


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It does it on any road I've been on at 75+ from the first drive home from the dealer on the interstate. . I'll be having an alignment done in a week or so for an upcoming track event, so I will have them measure what it is presently in "stock form" to see if that may be a factor. Just never had this before on any cars. First car with the G2s for me, but a local ZL1 guy never had this noise at any speed on his stock G2s.

Thanks for the feedback. My main concern is that it is not something that will be a safety issue at high speeds. I will regularly see 120-135 on the track (road course, not drag strip). Not a good time for surprises.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:52 PM   #12
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This happened on my last car... there was also a slight vibration above 90. I had the dealer road force balance my tires and I was good to go. No issues on the 1LE.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:17 AM   #13
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My main concern is that it is not something that will be a safety issue at high speeds. I will regularly see 120-135 on the track (road course, not drag strip). Not a good time for surprises.
Understood completely (also the part about 20 minutes > 12.x seconds).

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Old 03-06-2013, 09:32 AM   #14
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I would have he tires road force balanced. Is the steering wheel vibrating?
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:20 AM   #15
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It's the nature of the Goodyears. Semi quiet for the first 5k miles or so,then they start to roar. I've had this problem since 1997 when I first started daily driving Corvettes. Since then I've had 13 of them & every one has been the same. My solution has been to switch to Michelins as soon as they start roaring.
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:00 PM   #16
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I would have he tires road force balanced. Is the steering wheel vibrating?
No vibration in the wheel that I have noticed.

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It's the nature of the Goodyears. Semi quiet for the first 5k miles or so,then they start to roar. I've had this problem since 1997 when I first started daily driving Corvettes. Since then I've had 13 of them & every one has been the same. My solution has been to switch to Michelins as soon as they start roaring.
Just hit 800 miles and it has done it since I got it with 2 miles. Not doubting something could change as tires wear, but does not seem to be the issue here
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:27 PM   #17
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It's the nature of the Goodyears. Semi quiet for the first 5k miles or so,then they start to roar. I've had this problem since 1997 when I first started daily driving Corvettes. Since then I've had 13 of them & every one has been the same. My solution has been to switch to Michelins as soon as they start roaring.
If you switch to Michelins right away, you can sell the Goodyear tires and finance a big portion of the new tires --- that's what I did with my '12 Grand Sport, and '13 Z06 came with Michelin PS2s anyway.

That said, all performance tires I've used are either pretty loud. The extra wide tires are louder by nature, the aggressive alignment can increase the noise, too, and the fact that some models have less insulation material to start with (like the Z06) doesn't help. I have come to accept that this is the nature of driving these cars, and I get annoyed by tire noise only if it's coming out of my Subaru Outback, since it is not allowed/designed to be noisy
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:13 PM   #18
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As soon as BFG comes out with the comp2 in our size im getting those
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:46 PM   #19
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BFG's new "Rival" is already slated to be available in 285/35-20 and corresponds much more closely to the Goodyear G.2 than either of the G-force Sports. You might want to wait for it, especially if there's any autocrossing or track day usage foreseen.

I had the original G-force Sports on a previous car. As rear tires on a 375-ish HP 355 CID Malibu, they gripped well enough in a straight line or in pure cornering, but weren't as happy when asked to do some of both as the Firestone SZ50's I'd had before them. Never could figure out why, and just had to be a little more patient with the throttle on corner exit.


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Old 03-06-2013, 08:47 PM   #20
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A set of the BFG Rival has already been ordered for me and are supposed to arrive first week of April through Tire Rack. They have some great reviews from a recent extensive test session on multiple cars, in multiple settings (track. Autocross, skidpad, etc) at the NOLA track.
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Old 03-13-2013, 01:22 AM   #21
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Can you record the sound so we can have a listen?
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:24 PM   #22
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Can you record the sound so we can have a listen?
I actually tried with my iPhone... ran up to 100 on the interstate, put clutch in to eliminate engine and exhaust noise and coasted, but it was hard to get clearly or to distinguish from typical road/wind noise. Really have to be there in the car.
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:37 PM   #23
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turn the radio off,
thats my problem.. lol
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:33 AM   #24
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should be 32
After driving they heat up and psi goes up, no?


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Old 04-15-2013, 07:21 AM   #25
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I am having the same oscillating roaring sound @ 70+ mph...no vibration, though. I only have 1800 miles on the car. I was originally thinking it was a drivetrain issue, but I suppose it could be the tires as well. I like the road force balancing recommendation...I'm going to take it in to the dealer soon and suggest that. I've had that done in the past with good results on another vehicle.
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