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Old 03-06-2013, 11:52 AM   #15
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The j pipes are usually tuned to one resonate frequency, and lose their effectiveness at other rpm ranges. The XPipe will be effective across the entire range but more to tone down the entire system. So I would do one then if not satisfied with the results do the other. The choice is up to you and sound quality is a subjective thing. What is annoying to one person sounds good to someone else.
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So x-pipes would make the system quieter no matter what the rpms? And j-pipes would make it quieter at lower rpms?
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:56 AM   #16
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So x-pipes would make the system quieter no matter what the rpms? And j-pipes would make it quieter at lower rpms?
Sort of, the J pipes can be tuned to any particular rpm range depending where the offending harmonics are located. There is another thread on here with the formula for figuring the length of pipe needed to tune the exhaust. I will see if I can find it.

It's in here
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:01 PM   #17
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There is no muffler to season so waiting time is not going to make any difference. Your best bet is to get the Magnaflow resonated X-pipe or add some mufflers. I would probably do the x-pipe if it were me. I had a muffler delete with the resonated x-pipe and when I went to long tube headers I sold the system to a guy with a V6. He loved the sound of it.

BTW: I suggest talking to JDP Motorsports. I've found them to be some of the cheapest prices....especially on Magnaflow stuff. You might save $5-$10 by going to eBay but you won't get the customer service either. Call JDP and at least get a quote on parts. Let them know you're from Camaro5. http://www.jdpmotorsports.com/
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:03 PM   #18
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Seems like I might just be better off selling this exhaust and getting a quieter one...
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:05 PM   #19
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Try Borla. I love mine. Not too loud, not too quiet, just right. Sounds good at start-up, accelleration & WOT, quiet at cruise & idle, very minimal drone.

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Old 03-06-2013, 12:06 PM   #20
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It will quiet down after some time. How much? don't know. Also when you first put an exhaust on your not used to it. When i put my long tube headers on i had a pretty bad headache the first day and then a few days later it didn't bother me as much. Maybe got used to it or exhaust broke in more? Maybe a little of both. If it still bothers you after some time maybe j pipes etc or a different set up.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:10 PM   #22
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Do the resonated x-pipe first. If you're still not happy, add the J's.
If that doesn't do it, get a Prius.
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Old 03-06-2013, 04:35 PM   #23
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I'm still leaning towards selling it and getting a quieter one...
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It will quiet down after some time. How much? don't know.
How is it going to quiet down after some time? It's a muffler delete...meaning no mufflers.

If there were mufflers then maybe it could quiet down but in reality it would probably do the opposite. When a muffler has packing in it then it will be the quietest when you first put it on. Over time the packing breaks up or loosens and the exhaust should actually get louder not quieter.

Try the resonated x-pipe or get something else. Thing is that you probably have a hard time selling it. I don't think a muffler delete is very popular on the V6. I'm pretty sure it won't work on a V8 either because V6 is 2.25" vs a V8 having 2.5".
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How is it going to quiet down after some time? It's a muffler delete...meaning no mufflers.

If there were mufflers then maybe it could quiet down but in reality it would probably do the opposite. When a muffler has packing in it then it will be the quietest when you first put it on. Over time the packing breaks up or loosens and the exhaust should actually get louder not quieter.

Try the resonated x-pipe or get something else. Thing is that you probably have a hard time selling it. I don't think a muffler delete is very popular on the V6. I'm pretty sure it won't work on a V8 either because V6 is 2.25" vs a V8 having 2.5".
Would the resonate x-pipe actually help and make a difference or would it just help a little. I don't want to spend the money and then only get a little result.

Also, x-pipe or j-pipes?!
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:18 PM   #26
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Lots of good suggestions here, but I'm not sure if your fully understanding them.

It sounds like what you may be experiencing is what is known as drone. Drone can be minimal or it can be loud. Drone is like a low humming sound, and when it is bad if sounds as if it is resonating throughout the entire cabin and can be very annoying. Drone mostly occurs when traving at certain speeds and RPM ranges....the most common of which is at around 2,000 rpm (give or take) cruising on the highway. It will get even worse if you are crusing, and have to go up a hill and engine lugs a bit. If you feel the incabin sound gets better when your rpms climb to say closer to 3,000 rpm, then this is surely drone. If it is just always too loud, no matter the rpm, then it may simply be that the exhaust is just to loud.

If you think it is drone, but are very happy with the sound of the exhaust on the outside of your car, the best bet it J pipes, also known as Helmholtz pipes. You can't just weld them in place and be done...they have to be the proper length so keep that in mind. See the SOLO catback exhaust for this V6 for example. J pipes are the best at killing drone at whatever rpm range you set them up for.

Otherwise, if you wouldn't mind toning down your exhaust, and helping drone, do the resonated X from Magnaflow. It is a very easy, and relatively in-expensive change. Just add the new resonated X muffler around the same point in your exhaust where the stock H pipe would be. In my opinion, it would improve the sound overall, making it less raspy with a lower tone.

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Would the resonate x-pipe actually help and make a difference or would it just help a little. I don't want to spend the money and then only get a little result.

Also, x-pipe of j-pipes?!
I think the solo j pipe would do more good for a muffler delete system, just do a search on here for j pipe in the titles and you can read a lot about them.
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:33 PM   #28
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A set of J-pipes will help the interior drone. A resonated X-pipe can cut down on some drone and reduce the volume some. Another easy idea is a swap to the LM2 mufflers. They should just swap right in......Give us a call and we can go over some options.
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