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Old 03-10-2013, 10:44 PM   #18
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You must be running into the wrong drivers then. The 5.0 will respond just as well to mods as an ss and doesn't have to push 3900 pounds around. Around here (Atco) tuned/intake/exhaust GTs are running high 11s on a sticky tire. BBK did a bolt on comparo and the mustang made more HP with the exact same mods as an SS. I included a link below.

Ok and you just said the same thing I just said. High 11s on a sticky tire at one of the fastest tracks! So how is that much better then a camaro? My car ran 12.6s with nothing but headers on it, if I put a tune, intake and tires I would have been low 12s easy... right were the mustangs run with the same parts. So whats your point, that BBK video is a joke too. There are plenty of guys that have gone low 12s high 11s with boltons on a camaro. I have not had any problems beating bolton 5.0s around here. But lets get this striaght, I am not talking about guys running 15" rims with slicks... do that to a SS and they will run scay fast without a lot of mods as well. I am talking 5.0s with stock rims and DRs with a basic boltons.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:45 PM   #19
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Tune, intake and exhaust makes it as fast as a Shelby. That makes sense.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:05 PM   #20
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Ya he is hidding something from you.

I'm the owner of the 2012 5.0 At the time I ran 11.89@121 I only had an Airriad intake, boss manifold, cat deletes, email tune and flowmaster axleback. I have trapped 118 with just intake and tune. I'm not hiding anything. I now have pypes long tubes and a dyno tune. hopefully I will be able to trap around 123mph. My numbers may seem a little high but if you visit a mustang forum, you will see similar mustangs running those those numbers

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Old 03-10-2013, 11:08 PM   #21
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I agree. He's gotta be running at least injectors+E85 to get anything close to that. Seems awfully fast for just a basic tune/manifold/exhaust car with no tires.

I do have 47 injectors but im currently only running 93 octane. I will be switching to E85 as soon as NJ starts getting blend 1 around summer time
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:58 AM   #22
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The Gearing and weight are helping these 5.0's alot, also the boss intake monifold lets the car shift around 7200-7800rpm
Unfortunetly the camaro does have crappy gearing and too much weight. My advice Try getting some 3.73's along with a decent cam it will get you to that trap speed and some sticky tires to lower the time.
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:45 AM   #23
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:34 AM   #24
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I have no problems with the times the OP posted for his Son's time. He has headers, full exhaust, boss intake, CAI, and probably an AED or Steeda tune. This combination has been proven over and over for the 5.0 as a solid 11-sec combination.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:47 AM   #25
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you can hit 11's with a nightfury cam, i guarantee it.

Not apples to apples, but i saw a thread where a guy goes 10.8's on a cam only vvt setup.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:49 AM   #26
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Thats not what I am saying, I understand a bolton stang has the possibility to run faster then a bolton camaro. The stangs engine designe responds better to a tune and intake manifold swap and ease of using a 15" wheel. Using that boss intake is like a cam swap on a LS engine, my point is a basic tune, exhaust 5.0 is not running any better then the camaros. Once you get into that boss intake, running e85 and such then a bolton camaro has no chance I understand that, a cam will even things out for the camaro. A few cam only camaros have been 10s... Both cars are great, but both cars need to be modded different! The camaro is not going to run what a stang runs with the same parts, its a different car and requires a different setup.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:41 AM   #27
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Thats not what I am saying, I understand a bolton stang has the possibility to run faster then a bolton camaro. The stangs engine designe responds better to a tune and intake manifold swap and ease of using a 15" wheel. Using that boss intake is like a cam swap on a LS engine, my point is a basic tune, exhaust 5.0 is not running any better then the camaros. Once you get into that boss intake, running e85 and such then a bolton camaro has no chance I understand that, a cam will even things out for the camaro. A few cam only camaros have been 10s... Both cars are great, but both cars need to be modded different! The camaro is not going to run what a stang runs with the same parts, its a different car and requires a different setup.
The Boss intake doesn't make much difference for those cars, to be honest because it's optimized for high RPM road racing. They tend to hurt power down low and only until you get above 7k RPMs do they actually make a negligable difference.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:43 AM   #28
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What are talking about, they pull more RPM with that intake and that equals more speed! The mustange has nothing down low to begine with, they run hard at high rpms. Add rpms and power up top were they use it is definitly making a difference!
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What are talking about, they pull more RPM with that intake and that equals more speed! The mustange has nothing down low to begine with, they run hard at high rpms. Add rpms and power up top were they use it is definitly making a difference!
Go take a look at some dyno charts comparing the two. The Boss intake pulls power from down low and adds a little bit up top. It's definitely not the equivalent of putting a cam in an LS3.
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I have heard of some guys that went slower from the Boss intake. They say if your not going to shift above 7000 RPM's then it does no good and might hurt you. You have to remember that intake was built for a different set of cams and ported heads so it probably doesnt do as well on a bolt on GT and it certainly isnt worth what our cam upgrades are worth. What is worth the same as some of our small cam upgrades is certain tuning for the Coyote motor.
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Old 03-11-2013, 02:27 PM   #31
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What's up with the typing in blue? Is that what's cool nowadays?
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Here is our Dyno sheet with the CAI/Tune/Boss Intake:



You will lose a little low end torque ... but it makes it up in the higher RPM end range.

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Old 03-11-2013, 03:31 PM   #33
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Here is our Dyno sheet with the CAI/Tune/Boss Intake:



You will lose a little low end torque ... but it makes it up in the higher RPM end range.

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Thats just a nasty "cruve" from 6-7500 rpm .
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Old 03-11-2013, 04:29 PM   #34
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I have a 12 Camaro ss with SLP axle back, intake, ARH with high flow cats, and x pipe, and a dyno tune by ECSC. My car Dynoed 429 rwh and 428 pound of torque. My boy has a 5.0 with headers, exhaust, H pipe, boss intake manifolds and a dyno tune. We went to the track few days ago, and my best run was 12.70 at 113.5 mph with a 2.11 60 ft. His best run was 11.8 at 121 mph with a 1.9 60 ft. I'm getting cams installed on Thursday, and hoping to gain about 50 to 60 rwh. Will I stand a chance once I get my cams ? He talks alot of shit.
Wow man, I hope you pull it off, but I can't recall many experiences where adding 50hp shaves a full second off of a run..... maybe unless you were running the quarter in a Neon or Cobalt or something.
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