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Old 03-10-2013, 10:19 AM   #1
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Buying A Used ZL1.Good Deal??????

My son works and a Nissan Store and calls me saying someone traded in a 2013 ZL1.
I go down and look at it and it's black with the carbin insert with black wheels.
When looking at it the outer edges of the tires they look kind of worn down and looks like they were heated up like when you are at a track taking corners at a high rate of speed..these tires seem kinda of soft so maybe before he traded it in he got his moneys worth not sure..When we started it up it also has a little rattle at the pulleys,just dont want to buy anything that someone has hammered on.
This car has 2050 miles on it and I can get it for $48k.
After trading in my 2011 convertible and a 2012 45th SS it will put me back up to 63k..I think is is a decent deal but Not sure I want to get rid of my two bad ass SS camaros for this..
What do you think..worth it or?????

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Old 03-10-2013, 10:22 AM   #2
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I vote no if you will owe 63k.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:25 AM   #3
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you will owe $63k, or be ahead $15k? Ahead yes...get a new one, imo.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:31 AM   #4
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My son works and a Nissan Store and calls me saying someone traded in a 2013 ZL1.
I go down and look at it and it's black with the carbin insert with black wheels.
When looking at it the outer edges of the tires they look kind of worn down and looks like they were heated up like when you are at a track taking corners at a high rate of speed..these tires seem kinda of soft so maybe before he traded it in he got his moneys worth not sure..When we started it up it also has a little rattle at the pulleys,just dont want to buy anything that someone has hammered on.
This car has 2050 miles on it and I can get it for $48k.
After trading in my 2011 convertible and 45th SS it will put me back up to 63k..I think is is a decent deal but Not sure I want to get rid of my two bad ass SS camaros for this..
What do you think..worth it or?????
A '13 ZL1 for $48k is a great deal by the #'s In retrospect I bought my used '12 for 52k but with all the options it had the MSRP was $59k and it was GM certified. I also was able to have them throw in 2 new rear tires. Since its a non-Chevrolet dealer getting it GM certified is out the question so at $48k they are trying to let it go apparently. Carfax it, make sure it wasn't handled misproperly and ensure the break in process was done properly. I don't think you'll find a new one for $48k, there are still some states that are charging a premium. Just depends on what region your in.

If they can throw in atleast the price of 2 new rear tires and depending on what other options it has I'd say go for it. $63k isn't bad considering the MSRP of the vehicle may be $52-60k depending on what it has, so your not in the hole if you think that way.

I'd say go for it honestly. It doesn't compare to both your Camaros, once you test drive it you'll see what I'm talking about. And of course others will chime in and say its cheaper to slap a S/C on one of your current models but honestly it doesn't compare.

Just all depends though, trading 2 vehicles for $63k? Ehhhhh idk. Part of me says do it! The other says, idk. Lol Goodluck either way!
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:32 AM   #5
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My son works and a Nissan Store and calls me saying someone traded in a 2013 ZL1.
I go down and look at it and it's black with the carbin insert with black wheels.
When looking at it the outer edges of the tires they look kind of worn down and looks like they were heated up like when you are at a track taking corners at a high rate of speed..these tires seem kinda of soft so maybe before he traded it in he got his moneys worth not sure..When we started it up it also has a little rattle at the pulleys,just dont want to buy anything that someone has hammered on.
This car has 2050 miles on it and I can get it for $48k.
After trading in my 2011 convertible and 45th SS it will put me back up to 63k..I think is is a decent deal but Not sure I want to get rid of my two bad ass SS camaros for this..
What do you think..worth it or?????
- The tires look that way from the factory. Real soft compound and not a lot of tread to start with.
- The rattle is not uncommon on the LSA motor and is more of an annoyance than anything. CTS-V owners report the same rattle.
- Abuse is one thing; but this car is made to take a beating; let's hope the previous owner engaged in spirited driving.

That's a good deal but I wouldn't go upside like that especially if you're trading two cars.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:43 AM   #6
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As stated, the tires look that way to start with so I wouldnt let that concern me. I traded in my 2010 RS for my ZL1 and I have NO regrets. It is an amazing machine.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:44 AM   #7
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- The tires look that way from the factory. Real soft compound and not a lot of tread to start with.
- The rattle is not uncommon on the LSA motor and is more of an annoyance than anything. CTS-V owners report the same rattle.
- Abuse is one thing; but this car is made to take a beating; let's hope the previous owner engaged in spirited driving.

That's a good deal but I wouldn't go upside like that especially if you're trading two cars.
No i realize that the tires are soft and not alot of tread but these edges were heated up and the rubber was balling up..maybe normal for these tires but when looking at these it didn't look normal..lol
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:52 AM   #8
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you will owe $63k, or be ahead $15k? Ahead yes...get a new one, imo.
Well it would be like buying a new one at 63k and no tax with 2050 miles on is's because i am only paying 48k for the used one.Just not sure why this guy would trade it for a Nissan..lol
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:53 AM   #9
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I traded in my 2010 ss alone on my 62k msrp z and I owe a hair over 50k . You must not be getting a good deal on trade in. I would say trade in the 45th and keep the 10. Or don't bother with the Z at all. I wouldn't want to pay that for a coupe at all. Be happy with what you have or sell yours outright and get what you can.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:57 AM   #10
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A '13 ZL1 for $48k is a great deal by the #'s In retrospect I bought my used '12 for 52k but with all the options it had the MSRP was $59k and it was GM certified. I also was able to have them throw in 2 new rear tires. Since its a non-Chevrolet dealer getting it GM certified is out the question so at $48k they are trying to let it go apparently. Carfax it, make sure it wasn't handled misproperly and ensure the break in process was done properly. I don't think you'll find a new one for $48k, there are still some states that are charging a premium. Just depends on what region your in.

If they can throw in atleast the price of 2 new rear tires and depending on what other options it has I'd say go for it. $63k isn't bad considering the MSRP of the vehicle may be $52-60k depending on what it has, so your not in the hole if you think that way.

I'd say go for it honestly. It doesn't compare to both your Camaros, once you test drive it you'll see what I'm talking about. And of course others will chime in and say its cheaper to slap a S/C on one of your current models but honestly it doesn't compare.

Just all depends though, trading 2 vehicles for $63k? Ehhhhh idk. Part of me says do it! The other says, idk. Lol Goodluck either way!
The only reason I am getting it at this price is because my son is selling it to me.Everybody at the dealership has been trying to get the keys from him to drive it.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:07 AM   #11
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I traded in my 2010 ss alone on my 62k msrp z and I owe a hair over 50k . You must not be getting a good deal on trade in. I would say trade in the 45th and keep the 10. Or don't bother with the Z at all. I wouldn't want to pay that for a coupe at all. Be happy with what you have or sell yours outright and get what you can.
Yea This deal is not done.They want to give me about 30k per car and that puts me about 7k per car upside down.This would roll into the ZL1..
but it does cut my payment by $450.00..lol
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:29 AM   #12
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so your trading in 2 for 1, and your going to still be upside down 7K..... if that is the case, my heart is saying yes... but the mind is saying no way..... so it depends if your thinking with your heart, or your mind....
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:44 AM   #13
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I must be missing something here, I don't understand the numbers whatsoever. Your getting 63 for trading I two camaro's. buying a ZL1 for 48. So they, the dealership, will be writing you a check for $15,000. Trade-in: 63 minus ZL1 at 48 leaves a balance of 15 being returned to you. If that's the deal, I'd do it, sounds like a good amount for the trade-ins and a sale price of 48 for the ZL1 sounds really good for a 2013. What's the original sticker price of the ZL1 and what are the blue book prices on each of the trades.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:50 AM   #14
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I must be missing something here, I don't understand the numbers whatsoever. Your getting 63 for trading I two camaro's. buying a ZL1 for 48. So they, the dealership, will be writing you a check for $15,000. Trade-in: 63 minus ZL1 at 48 leaves a balance of 15 being returned to you. If that's the deal, I'd do it, sounds like a good amount for the trade-ins and a sale price of 48 for the ZL1 sounds really good for a 2013. What's the original sticker price of the ZL1 and what are the blue book prices on each of the trades.
The car price is $48k plus a standard fee They charge on all cars.
After I trade in my two cars we are adding $15k to the price of the car making it $63k to finance....$14k rolled into ZL1 between the two cars trading in.
Car Price..............$48,000
Negative Equity....$14,000
Dealer fee............$1000.00
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Finance................$63,000..2013 ZL1 With Carbon Fiber Insert

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Old 03-10-2013, 12:00 PM   #15
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I love my Z, couldn`t leave it stock O well. Once you drive it you will never go back. So if you have doubts don`t drive it. This car is amazing in performance! You and only you can decide, if you have to ask you really don`t want it. I bought mine new and had NO second thoughts paying sticker for her. YOu will have a factory warranty on yours with only 2100 miles if you bought it so your still good. Now for as the tires, they are horrible to drive daily..NO tread and don`t work well with anything but oval track driving.
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The car price is $48k plus a standard fee They charge on all cars.
After I trade in my two cars we are adding $15k to the price of the car making it $63k to finance....$14k rolled into ZL1 between the two cars trading in.
Walk into a Chevy dealership and I think you'd get that same deal or maybe even better one a brand new ZL1 off the showroom floor. Really like to know the original sticker price of the ZL1. Blk on Blk with Exposed Carbon Fiber Hood Insert. Manual or Auto? NAV or any other add-ons? If you/they don't have the sticker it's pretty easy to add it all up and get the real numbers. Chevy.com has a build your own feature where you just plug in all the options and it gives you a final number, gas guzzler tax included. It does not include sales tax, so I would factor that in as well because you don't pay sales tax on the trade-in dollars.
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:10 PM   #17
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If you're asking if the 48k price is a good deal, its not good but not bad. The rest of it is your own financing decision.
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I would say that is a darn good price, based on what they are currently going for at dealer auctions, which is low $50's.
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:33 PM   #19
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If you really want it then buy it. I would walk away and sit down and seriously consider what you are trying to do financially. Can you sell your cars for more cash? Why not save money and buy a new vehicle? I personally never fall in love with the car at first sight, at at least not in front of the dealer.
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I go down and look at it and it's black with the carbin insert with black wheels.
All ZL1s have a Carbon Fiber hood insert.

The option is for the Carbon Fiber hood insert to have its Carbon Fiber weave exposed under a clear coat. The standard Carbon Fiber hood insert is simply painted with a solid Ashen Gray color.

The Exposed Carbon Fiber weave hood insert is a $600 option.


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After trading in my 2011 convertible and 45th SS it will put me back up to 63k.
Only you can determine if taking on $63K in debt for a car is appropriate for you and your current lifestyle. My own policy is to finance a vehicle only when a good interest rate is available and to finance only an amount less or equal to that which I have liquid resources to cover so that I can payoff the loan at any time I choose.
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All ZL1s have a Carbon Fiber hood insert.

The option is for the Carbon Fiber hood insert to have its Carbon Fiber weave exposed under a clear coat. The standard Carbon Fiber hood insert is simply painted with a solid Ashen Gray color.

The Exposed Carbon Fiber weave hood insert is a $600 option.



Only you can determine if taking on $63K in debt for a car is appropriate for you and your current lifestyle. My own policy is to finance a vehicle only when a good interest rate is available and to finance only an amount less or equal to that which I have liquid resources to cover so that I can payoff the loan at any time I choose.
It is Exposed Carbon fiber..
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$48k is a heck of a deal, but if getting rid of your 45th is gonna put you up to $63k you might as well forget it. No bank is going to sign off on that deal unless you're putting most of that $15k you'd be losing with a down payment.
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That's too much negative equity for me to deal with. yes you could save some money each month with 1 payment, but how much longer do you have on these 2 payments? the 10 should be a good ways paid by now. the 12 prob not. just doesn't seem like a smart move.
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Old 03-10-2013, 02:13 PM   #24
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id leave that one alone, that's just me though
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If you're asking if the 48k price is a good deal, its not good but not bad. The rest of it is your own financing decision.
$48k for a '13 ZL1 isn't a good deal? You must be smokin some of the finest herb around.
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