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Old 06-18-2009, 08:38 PM   #1
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Need Opinion on Oil Change

My new 2SS RJT has 410 miles on it. I just received the car this past Saturday. I must travel (looking forward to the road trip) and will put about another 640 miles on the car this week-end.

Do I change the oil now before I leave ?

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Do I wait until I return and have about 1050 total miles?

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Old 06-18-2009, 08:47 PM   #2
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I changed mine at 920 and there was alot of metal on the top layer of drained oil in pan and after I dumped oil in containers, there was quite a bit in the bottom of the pan. Opening the filter up was quite an eye opener... I wanted to change it at 600, but got caught up with work and hate to say it, more pressing issues.

Would I change it after trip? No
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Old 06-18-2009, 08:48 PM   #3
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Wait til you return... then fork over the bucks for 8 qts of synthetic and K&N oil fliter
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:39 AM   #4
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I changed mine at 920 and there was alot of metal on the top layer of drained oil in pan and after I dumped oil in containers, there was quite a bit in the bottom of the pan. Opening the filter up was quite an eye opener... I wanted to change it at 600, but got caught up with work and hate to say it, more pressing issues.

Would I change it after trip? No
Banshee,

Thanks for giving your opinion. I sorta thought I should change the oil, but the comments about your experience definitely convinced me. I am about to start the oil change myself !!

Mlee,

Thanks for adding your comments as well. This is the beauty of this site, freedom and passage of knowledge and thoughts !!
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:44 AM   #5
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400 miles might be to soon, still alot of metal to come out. You could change it now and change it again at 1500.
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:45 AM   #6
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go with a Wix filter over K&N. a little better & costs less
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Old 06-19-2009, 05:15 AM   #7
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changed my oil at 775 mi,small metal parts,will change again soon
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:41 PM   #8
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go with a Wix filter over K&N. a little better & costs less
I've had good luck with the cheap Napa and Carquest filters (which I believe are just repackaged Wix filters).
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Old 06-19-2009, 02:18 PM   #9
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Why worry about cheap... There's only about a $10-$15 difference between low and high end filters anyway. My money still goes with K&N performance filters for oil & air.
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Old 06-19-2009, 02:22 PM   #10
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My new 2SS RJT has 410 miles on it. I just received the car this past Saturday. I must travel (looking forward to the road trip) and will put about another 640 miles on the car this week-end.

Do I change the oil now before I leave ?

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Do I wait until I return and have about 1050 total miles?

Your opinion would be appreciated.
Change it before the trip.

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Old 06-19-2009, 03:34 PM   #11
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Try some of that brand new Royal Purple break-in oil.

I been wanting someone to do a report on it...

I trust the Purp.. but this is a new product. They have added Zinc.
http://www.royalpurple.com/breakin-oil-rh.html
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:05 PM   #12
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so then what did you guys do change the oil and filter?
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:58 PM   #13
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My new 2SS RJT has 410 miles on it. I just received the car this past Saturday. I must travel (looking forward to the road trip) and will put about another 640 miles on the car this week-end.

Do I change the oil now before I leave ?

or

Do I wait until I return and have about 1050 total miles?

Your opinion would be appreciated.
I would change it before the trip if it were me. Sounds like alot of metal is dropping in the first couple of hundred mile from what other people are posting and from what I have read on other threads. better to change it and have less metal circulating around the engine.
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Old 06-19-2009, 06:13 PM   #14
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so then what did you guys do change the oil and filter?
Did mine at 1200 miles Mobil 1.

Beware it takes a while for the oil to hit the pan and show full on the dipstick. I put in 8 qts and it showed low until it sat for a while. Almost went out and got another qt to add a bit more. Glad I waited.
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:32 PM   #15
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Try some of that brand new Royal Purple break-in oil.

I been wanting someone to do a report on it...

I trust the Purp.. but this is a new product. They have added Zinc.
http://www.royalpurple.com/breakin-oil-rh.html
NO don't use that now it is meant for the first 100-500 miles only

is great from what i have heard just to late now


and yes i would defiantly change it now before you leave then again around 1500
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Old 06-20-2009, 08:19 AM   #16
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Would change before you leave. I just changed mine at 500 miles and I am taking it on a long road trip this week (1600 miles worth of trip).
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Old 06-20-2009, 08:23 AM   #17
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I changed at 1200 miles, overfilled one quart, drove gently for 50 miles and did another oil and filter. The second drain still had lines of metallic silver color in the oil. Now as needed by time or mileage. IMHO
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Old 06-20-2009, 12:32 PM   #18
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My question is, what's the worst that can happen if you wait until 3k-5k before doing your first change?
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Old 06-21-2009, 07:32 AM   #19
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400 miles might be to soon, still alot of metal to come out. You could change it now and change it again at 1500.

That's what I plan on doing. The oil was discolered, but I didn't see any metal particles floating. I will cut open the filter later and report my findings on the internals later.
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Old 06-21-2009, 09:45 AM   #20
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I would change it before you leave , I have almost 600 miles on mine and I am changing the oil tomorrow .
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:13 AM   #21
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My question is, what's the worst that can happen if you wait until 3k-5k before doing your first change?
Absolutely nothing.

Those that change before that are just wasting their money.

3,000 miles on oem Mobil 1 in my 2009 CTS and I don't change until the OLM or 1 year.

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General Motors yesterday joined the California Environmental Protection Agency and its Integrated Waste Management Board in the state’s “3,000 Mile Myth” campaign to educate drivers on reducing motor oil consumption by following their automakers’ recommended oil drain intervals.

In response to research showing that 73 percent of California drivers change their oil more frequently than their vehicle manufacturers recommend, the Board has launched a new public information program to educate drivers to follow automaker guidelines for oil change frequency. The program, said the Board, is “designed to bust the 3,000-mile myth, the old mantra that drivers should change their oil every 3,000 miles.”

Unnecessary oil changes, the Board said, generate millions of gallons of waste oil per year and have the potential to pollute the state’s natural resources.

GM said yesterday that it will support the Board’s program to help motorists understand how frequently they need to change their engine oil and the proper methods of doing so. “The traditional 3,000-mile oil change recommendation was based on engine and oil technologies of the past,” GM said.

“General Motors and the California Integrated Waste Management Board share the common goal of reducing the amount of both new and used oil in order to help protect the environment,” said Peter Lord, executive director of GM Service Operations.

“In California alone, more than 2.5 million GM vehicles are equipped with the GM Oil Life System,” said Ron Strayhorn, regional service manager, GM’s Western Region. “Owners of these vehicles can reduce the amount of oil they consume simply by following their GM Oil Life System, which for many drivers can be thousands of miles between changes as opposed to the old standard.”

These 2.5 million vehicles will save 8 million gallons of oil a year if their drivers follow the Oil Life System rather than following a 3,000-mile oil change interval, according to GM. With the Oil Life System, a computer-based software algorithm, vehicles typically need oil changes every 5,000 to 7,000 or even 10,000 miles, depending on operating conditions.

Nationally, there are 31 million GM vehicles with the Oil Life System, GM spokesman Tom Henderson told Lube Report. Following the System rather than a 3,000-mile drain interval could save 100 million gallons of oil annually.

Auto manufacturers today are calling for 5,000-mile to 15,000-mile drain intervals, Jon Myers, communications director for the Board, told Lube Report, “but quick lubes are still saying 3,000 miles, so we need to educate drivers.”

Radio public service announcements are running in California now, Myers said, to convey the message that drivers need to check their auto manufacturers’ recommendations. The Board has also set up a web site, www.3000milemyth.org, with consumer information to support the campaign.

The campaign urges motorists to check and follow their vehicle manufacturers’ guidelines for oil changes, and also to consider using synthetic oils that will allow longer drain intervals.

Estimating that each driver in California drives about 15,000 miles per year, the Board noted that changing oil at 5,000 miles instead of 3,000 miles will reduce the amount of used oil generated by seven or eight quarts, keeping the oil from entering the waste stream and saving the driver about $76 per year.

“When it comes to oil changes, less is more,” said the Board. “You’ll have more money in your wallet by changing your oil less, and fewer oil changes mean less oil that needs to be safely managed and recycled.”

The Board, part of the California EPA, is based in Sacramento, Calif.
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Absolutely nothing.

Those that change before that are just wasting their money.

3,000 miles on oem Mobil 1 in my 2009 CTS and I don't change until the OLM or 1 year.
There is a difference between a break in change at 500 miles plus/minus a few hundred and the "letter" posted.

Would I run the first batch of oil for the remainder of the oil life monitoring system on zero mileage new car?

Absolutely not!

Was there metal in my drained oil before I pulled the filter? Yep..Harmless? perhaps. The filter? Loaded with metal and some were quite large.

Do as you will, but for an additional $6 for a Mobil 1 or K&N filter (over a cheaper/inferior filter) and an additional $32 for oil, I'll change mine now thank you.

If you do the searching, Mobil1 synthetic and Pennzoil Platinum synthetic were on sale for $3.99 quart. I bought 8 cases..enough for a few seasons. So an oil change for me costs $43 and not the $80-90 other people are commenting about.

About the 8 quarts of absolutely fine oil I changed at 800 miles? Maybe I am not being "green" but I am looking out for a $40k car.

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Old 06-22-2009, 11:02 AM   #23
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About the 8 quarts of absolutely fine oil I changed at 800 miles? Maybe I am not being "green" but I am looking out for a $40k car.
No need to worry about going green since we already drive hybrid cars. I don't know about you, but my Camaro burns gasoline AND rubber
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