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Old 03-13-2013, 05:53 AM   #1
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Some UK Camaro Questions

Hello all,

I am hoping to get a 2013 Camaro SS soon, it's been my dream car for years now! I am financially stable and from the looks of things, I will get one in about 2 years, maybe less WOOO!

I am just curious about a few things though:

1. How is this huge beast of a car on English roads? It will be a daily driver also, the only car I will own. I live in Devon, so ALOT of B-roads. But the A-roads are easily reached, so I could just stick to them I guess.

2. Can it fit into UK garages? When I own my Camaro, I will then begin renting a house with a garage to keep my baby safe. But do Camaros fit alright in them?

3. Left Hand Drive. I have read through a thread about that on here already. You guys have made me feel pretty confident about it, but shouldn't I have a few LHD lessons? Or do you not need them at all? Do I just go out there in my new Camaro and feel things for myself?

4. In 2 years, when I get my Camaro, I will be 26. I will have had my lisense for just 5 years, and owned just one car. My record is perfect, no accidents ect.
Will being so young and inexperienced matter?

5. Which then brings me onto my final question. Insurance? It's going to kill me isn't it? Eek. I have the Pass Plus under my belt, but that probably won't be enough to help me. INSURANCE COST is the only thing I am REALLY worried about.
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:20 AM   #2
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Hi there Arizada, If you're dreaming of driving something more exclusive on the road, than the usual Beemer, Audi, Merc, fayre, then I can tell you you won't be disappointed. The interiors and switchgear probably don't have the most exquisite finish, but are by no means horrible. Stuff llike the Head Up Display, I have found to be more useful than I would have imagined, and everything else has performed perfectly for the last 2 years since I bought mine.
With regard to driving on English roads, I have found no problem with the size of the car at all. (it has about the same footprint as a BMW 5 series). You do however need to get used to thinking that the huge bonnet is not actually on the opposite verge. In towns, I skim by parked cars closer than right hand drive cars do, knowing that if, for example a Ford Transit can make the gap, then so can I. With the high hedged, narrow lanes in Devon, again, just skim as close as possible to the left hand side of the road, and you'll be fine. I don't think you really need lessons in driving a left hooker. Take things slowly, and usually within a week or so it becomes second nature. Although there are times when I still hit the drivers door, trying to change gear quickly with the wrong hand.
UK garages are a pain to get a Camaro into, if at all. We used to have a garage with a standard 7' wide door, but with the Camaro being 6'8" at it's widest, I had 2" each side to play with. And guess what? I couldn't open the door, when I needed to get out of the car!!! My cure for this problem was to build a 33' x 22' garage, with two 9' wide doors. Problem solved, and room for three more cars and two motorbikes.
I have the V6 version of this car (personal import), and the running costs are reasonable, with an average fuel consumption of around 22 UK mpg, running on 95ron petrol. However I know a chap round here that ran a V8, and his average mpg was 10-12, and had to run on super unleaded.It's why I specifically ordered a V6, plus the fact that an import is only £220 a year to tax, whereas, the Euro SS is well over £400! I am twice your age, and my insurance last June was nearly £500/year, living in rural Lincolnshire.

If you know you can easily afford the running costs, I would recommend this car wholeheartedly. You only live once, and I think that it's better to look back and say, "that was wild, but it was fun" than to think, "I wonder if that would have been fun".
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Old 03-13-2013, 04:17 PM   #3
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Hi, here's my take on your questions;

1 I'm in a rural part of Leicestershire with narrow lanes all around me. The car is wide and it is difficult to judge where the bonnet ends and how close cars coming the other way are on the narrow lanes. Having said that you quickly get used to knowing where your driver's side is and I guess subconsciously judge where the offside is and drive accordingly. I'm sure on occasions I have been overcautious but that's better than losing your offside wing mirror! I do find that when I now drive a RH drive, my passenger side is in the gutter!

2 No problem if you've got a big garage. or if like me you leave your car on the drive (you can admire it better that way)

3 Just do it. It's totally natural after a couple of weeks. I found using nearside rumble strips & road gullies helped in the early days together with setting the offside wing mirror down a bit to pick up the centre white line

4 How old was Lewis Hamilton when he became world champion

5 Doubt it's gonna be cheap for you. Get an online quote using info relative to when you're aiming to get the car.

In conclusion if you can afford it go for it. If I could have had a car like that at 26 I'd have been on cloud nine. A house and baby on the way were my priorities in those days and that new invention - electricity
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Old 03-13-2013, 04:24 PM   #4
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My cure for this problem was to build a 33' x 22' garage, with two 9' wide doors. Problem solved, and room for three more cars and two motorbikes.
Does that mean you HAVE two bikes Tim or just the space? Bikes are my first love !
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:27 AM   #5
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Thanks so much!

You guys have definately made me feel MUCH more comfortable about the LHD and little English roads.
A driveway would be nice to admire it on, but I think I will try and get a place with a double garage. I just want to do all I can to make the insurance lower, my age doesn't help at all.
Also the weather, I couldn't sit inside watching rain and hail attack my Camaro

Fuel efficiency is something I never think about. If it eats up fuel, then so be it. Hungry baby needs to eat

Tax also is what it is. Nothing can be done about that.

It's just insurance. That is the only thing that worries me. But again, I guess it just is what it is at the time I am ready for a Camaro.
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Old 03-14-2013, 09:51 AM   #6
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Does that mean you HAVE two bikes Tim or just the space? Bikes are my first love !
My wife and I have a bike each. I have an old school style Triumph Thruxton 900, which like the Camaro is retro styled and takes me back to my childhood, and my wife, being an American, lugs around on her Harley Davidson 883 Iron. I'd rather ride mine, but hers sounds way better, with her full Vance and Hines stage one kit and straight thru exhausts.
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TBH I'd not want to DD my Camaro around country B roads in Devon.
Sorry to be brutally honest.

I too wish I had a garage, but weekly waxing and cleaning and a top-class Camaro GM car cover just about keeps it Dry and Safe (locked on).

A lot can change in two years.
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My wife and I have a bike each. I have an old school style Triumph Thruxton 900, which like the Camaro is retro styled and takes me back to my childhood, and my wife, being an American, lugs around on her Harley Davidson 883 Iron. I'd rather ride mine, but hers sounds way better, with her full Vance and Hines stage one kit and straight thru exhausts.
Triumph looks nice, as you say retro. Wouldn't want to be your neighbour when the Harley fires up at 6:00 am !!
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Triumph looks nice, as you say retro. Wouldn't want to be your neighbour when the Harley fires up at 6:00 am !!

I imagine, with the cars you go for, you're probably more of a Yamaha R1, or Suzuki Hyabusa kind of guy.
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TBH I'd not want to DD my Camaro around country B roads in Devon.
Sorry to be brutally honest.

I too wish I had a garage, but weekly waxing and cleaning and a top-class Camaro GM car cover just about keeps it Dry and Safe (locked on).

A lot can change in two years.
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Had my Porsche for 8 years and it never once got put away ! Fortnightly wash, polish every 2 years, looked mint when I sold it ! Hopefully the Camaro is going to be the same. It's so much easier just jumping in and driving away - or am I just being a lazy sod ?

Not sure about your concerns of Devon country roads. It's much the same for all cars on the narrow lanes. I'd rather be on an empty road across the desert in California but ....
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I imagine, with the cars you go for, you're probably more of a Yamaha R1, or Suzuki Hyabusa kind of guy.
Well spotted, although it's neither (and haven't owned either). Current stable includes an MV Agusta F4s750 ('04) which is about to go, CBR 600RR race rep ('53), Aprilia RS250 (X), Buell Lightning 1200Scg ('09) and my latest toy of about a month ago Yamaha DT175MX (1980). The last one takes me back to one I had 30 years ago. The sound is identical to my memory of it (65 mph flat out !!)
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Well spotted, although it's neither (and haven't owned either). Current stable includes an MV Agusta F4s750 ('04) which is about to go, CBR 600RR race rep ('53), Aprilia RS250 (X), Buell Lightning 1200Scg ('09) and my latest toy of about a month ago Yamaha DT175MX (1980). The last one takes me back to one I had 30 years ago. The sound is identical to my memory of it (65 mph flat out !!)
Nice varied collection. It's nice how you can be transported back, and enjoy the experience by riding, or driving something from ones youth. It's the reason, despite their leisurely speed, I love, and own (no piss taking please ) two Citroen 2CVs.

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2CVs !! Penicillin time :-O
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Old 03-15-2013, 04:01 PM   #14
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Hi Arizada, I agree totally with what everyone else is saying. When I first got the car I had a long motorway journey to do and tested where the offside was on the fast lane of the motorway. I still clenched my buttcheeks everytime I passed a van or truck on a B-road for a couple of weeks but now I'm used to it.

Regarding insurance, I'm 32 and the SS costs me £862 per year. I believe it would be lower if I hadn't been driving on other peoples insurance for so long. Effectively I only have 3 years no claims, even though I've been driving without incident for 14 years. I had a BMW 645ci before the SS and that cost £740 per year so there's not a massive difference.

I also use my car as a daily driver - I do over 20,000 miles per year in it... :-O. My biggest gripe is toll roads and multistory carparks. I've got a litter picker which I use to reach buttons, cards and drop money into toll booths; it works quite well :-)

Even if you bankrupt yourself after a few months, at least you can always say you owned a Camaro. If you dont do it, you'll regret it!

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I'm surely my turn will come on the 7th when my Decepticon gets jibed :-)
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I'm surely my turn will come on the 7th when my Decepticon gets jibed :-)
As if !!
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Ok I have a coworker who has a 2013 Camaro and wants to bring it to the UK. He is military and our Gov will ship it..

M.O.T. question how will they wire up the turn signials and fog light.

From what I remember from when I was stationed there last time he has to have yellow turn and one red fog light. Will they use the back up lights for the turn signials

Please assist. If its too hard to get it to pass M.O.T. he will leave it in the US.
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The IVA seem to make it up as they go IMO.
Most of the USA Imports here and replies you get will be slightly different.

Here's mine from the back, you can see the Fog light on the Diffuser.
http://youtu.be/BW6fKP0n0Ek
IVA is about £400 excluding the parts, wiring, labour of your Car Mech.

Try contacting http://www.shipmycar.co.uk/too.

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Thanks, I watch the vid but could not tell are your turn lights yellow? I guess they are custom. What is the resell for american cars over there now. I remember that if he keeps it in the UK for 1 year then he can sell it to any local person with out them having to pay the import fees or import VAT...
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Indicators (Turn Signals) are Orange/Yellow (passed it's MOT no probs).
iPhone Video & UK lighting poor in that example :-(

Re-sell is kinda $ for £.
You essentially make 50% :-O
But there seem to be a lot on the market and few 'adventurers' like us.
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My wife and I have a bike each. I have an old school style Triumph Thruxton 900, which like the Camaro is retro styled and takes me back to my childhood, and my wife, being an American, lugs around on her Harley Davidson 883 Iron. I'd rather ride mine, but hers sounds way better, with her full Vance and Hines stage one kit and straight thru exhausts.
You continue to tease me with your motorcycle pictures...I love Camaro..and I know this is a Camaro forum....but you and your wife have great taste in motorcycles
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You continue to tease me with your motorcycle pictures...I love Camaro..and I know this is a Camaro forum....but you and your wife have great taste in motorcycles
Thanks Bee,
It is amazing how many Camaro owners seem to own motorcycles on this forum. I'm happy to talk about either, and actually prefer to watch Moto GP, and British Superbike racing way more than any car racing.
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Thanks Bee,
It is amazing how many Camaro owners seem to own motorcycles on this forum. I'm happy to talk about either, and actually prefer to watch Moto GP, and British Superbike racing way more than any car racing.
How true...just had mine in the shop for a service. I spent the better part of the afternoon just checking out all the new bikes in their showroom. It is great that your wife shares in your passion.

To be truthful, I wanted to get a bike 1st when I became of age....35 yrs later, no change. I reminiscent of the saying " 4 wheels move the body, 2 wheels move the soul".

By the way, any updates on your UK mate "Rick GM" and his new bike? Video would be great
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