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Old 03-15-2013, 08:25 AM   #1
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Question I need advice fellas!

Hello everyone, thanks for taking the time to look at my post! Im in a little bit of a predicament here... basically I am stuck in between getting a tune or not... the only thing that is holding me back is my power train warranty getting voided. Say something bad were to happen to my car, and I needed maintenance, would I be able to have my PCM flashed back to its stock strategy, leaving it absolutely untraceable by a dealership? I was actually offered a tune for free, and id hate to pass it up... tell me what you think guys! Btw, 118mph speed govenor on my car... dont want that since I upgraded tires and wheels! > Thanks
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:28 AM   #2
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The dealer will know if you had a tune even if you returned it to the stock tune. So it's up to you if you want to roll the dice and take a chance. Do you have any mods that require to need a tune?
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:32 AM   #3
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warranty you can kiss goodbye. but the dealership would have to prove that your tune caused whatever to go wrong. like you can tune your car and your side mirror stops working. its still under warranty once you flash your car you cant do the oki doke and flash it back. they will still know its been flashed. also do you have any engine mods, like exhaust, CAI, headers, etc. if not you will want to get RETUNED when you add that stuff later
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:39 AM   #4
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Thanks for the reply guys! I have an axle back exhaust and an injen CAI, any thoughts? Planning on high flow cats as well
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:00 AM   #5
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I wouldnt worry about getting a tube unless you were doing some more serious mods. Long tube headers would require a tune, but since you have 2013 you can't get headers, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:01 AM   #6
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so far you really dont have anything that requires a tune or will even be worth losing your warranty for. i would hold off untill what you have the mods that require the tune.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:12 AM   #7
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and if the ECM/PCM are EVER touched the dealer WILL KNOW. even going back to 'stock perimeters' the dealer will know it's been accessed.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:09 AM   #8
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CamaroJoe, when you are ready for a tune, just go for it! I was a bit hesitant as well about losing my warranty, but the engine runs so much more efficiently that there really isn't much that can go wrong. Got my car tuned and don't regret it one bit! It's only if you get a "bad" tune that something may go wrong, but just find a reputable tuner and you should be fine.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:27 AM   #9
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Thank you all for going out of your way to give me your input! I'm gonna go with Iwantone2 on this one, im actually getting the tune for free, and I'm gonna "roll the dice on this one" thanks again guys!
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:53 AM   #10
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Thank you all for going out of your way to give me your input! I'm gonna go with Iwantone2 on this one, im actually getting the tune for free, and I'm gonna "roll the dice on this one" thanks again guys!
Let us know the difference after getting it. I'd love to hear of the noticeable gains!
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:12 AM   #11
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haha i dont blame you i would do the same thing but it thought i would try and give you the "grown up" advice haha
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:39 PM   #12
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Ill let you guys know how it is! I know I may not have a lot of mods, but honestly after I get my high flow cats in the future, theres really nothing more to do performance wise, being the fact that I cant get headers. Mainly, I just want that annoying govenor off, and be able to use my mods to their full potential... I thankyou all again for your help! Keep my power train in your prayers!
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Old 03-15-2013, 01:56 PM   #13
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Question: Do you take the car to the track?

If not, I never feel the need to "use my mods to their full potential" on regular roads, I never go over 100 on a normal road, and even on the track 118+ is not really necessary depending on what you're doing.
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Question: Do you take the car to the track?

If not, I never feel the need to "use my mods to their full potential" on regular roads, I never go over 100 on a normal road, and even on the track 118+ is not really necessary depending on what you're doing.

not to mention if a cop catches ya doing that your going to jail, getting criminal charges, and having your car impounded. and also instantly become un-insurable.
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Old 03-15-2013, 03:46 PM   #15
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Personally.....I wouldn't trust a "Free" tune. What is that???? your 15 yr old neighbor wants some practice. Tune from a reputible person is one thing...freebie is another.
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Old 03-15-2013, 04:10 PM   #16
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I wouldnt worry about getting a tube unless you were doing some more serious mods. Long tube headers would require a tune, but since you have 2013 you can't get headers, so I wouldn't worry about it.
I thought with the Injen long tube CAI you do not need a tune with that brand , I am thinking of buying one but not if i have to do a tune , The site itself says it works with the car and does not need a tune , True or have others had the same brand and required a tune?
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Old 03-15-2013, 04:19 PM   #17
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Personally.....I wouldn't trust a "Free" tune. What is that???? your 15 yr old neighbor wants some practice. Tune from a reputible person is one thing...freebie is another.

I am with you on that one. I was very nervous with the "tune or not" question. Do a lot of research about tuners in your area and stay away from the budget tune garage guy. We have a lot of them where I live and nothing good will come of it. A tune done right is like getting a new car and really opens the LS3 up. There are plenty of professional shops that know what they are doing (and have a rep to uphold).
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Just my 2 cents, but I wouldn't risk losing my warranty just to go over 118.
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I don't know what you would need a tune for. Your choice though - but your warranty will be sianarrah.
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Just my 2 cents, but I wouldn't risk losing my warranty just to go over 118.

Your right, if I bought my car to Sunday drive. Its also true you are rolling the dice that your engine, tranny or rear don't have flaws that may pop up in the next 5/100K..still...

There are two main Chevy dealers in my area. One, I have zero faith in and the other I have heard mixed things about. For me, playing it safe isn't going to help because chances are even if it were a warranty issue, they would probably screw up my car anyway (one has already).
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Hello everyone, thanks for taking the time to look at my post! Im in a little bit of a predicament here... basically I am stuck in between getting a tune or not... the only thing that is holding me back is my power train warranty getting voided. Say something bad were to happen to my car, and I needed maintenance, would I be able to have my PCM flashed back to its stock strategy, leaving it absolutely untraceable by a dealership? I was actually offered a tune for free, and id hate to pass it up... tell me what you think guys! Btw, 118mph speed govenor on my car... dont want that since I upgraded tires and wheels! > Thanks
GM will know how many times your CPU has been flashed. Once you do it there is no going back. The decision to void your warrenty depends on what YOU want. If you forsee yourself modding the car than go for it. If you are just going to do a tune and stop with that, I wouldnt do it because the gains would not out weigh the loss of warrenty.

your warrenty is only void if something breaks
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Your right, if I bought my car to Sunday drive.

lol. so it's either 120+ or your just Sunday driving?
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:39 PM   #23
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FYI.... Any dealership will de-program your speed limiter for about $50 as long as you have good tires and it wont affect your warrenty. as soon as my tires are worn I'm getting my limiter kicked off too. It's dumb they limited this car to only 118 from the factory, but I guess they figured most peopel wouldnt know any better and would put cheap tires on and then blow them up
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Its not worth the risk. After the warranty is up do what you want. As for me, Im keeping mine stock
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Your right, if I bought my car to Sunday drive. Its also true you are rolling the dice that your engine, tranny or rear don't have flaws that may pop up in the next 5/100K..still...

There are two main Chevy dealers in my area. One, I have zero faith in and the other I have heard mixed things about. For me, playing it safe isn't going to help because chances are even if it were a warranty issue, they would probably screw up my car anyway (one has already).

Let us know if you decide to go get the repair. We are here if things do not seem to pan out smoothly.

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