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Old 02-17-2008, 08:15 AM   #226
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damn! i really thought that aluminum gas cap was a nice touch on the top.
Then you will have some idiot trying to open it up and busting or scratching the heck out of it... Like those fake hood pins back in the 70's...
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Old 02-17-2008, 12:04 PM   #227
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if i were working on the camaro, and knowing that people want to see it in the same spot as the concept, i would put a fake gas cap in the same spot on the prototype....just to raise some hell!
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Old 02-17-2008, 01:44 PM   #228
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come on people, the gas cap is not a big deal.
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Old 02-17-2008, 04:18 PM   #229
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It is to me. I've said it before, I'll say it again, I don't mind the location but I want at least the option of a nice cas cap instead of a regular fuel door.
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Old 02-17-2008, 07:56 PM   #230
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Eh', I'm past the gas cap and backup light location thing. I do feel a little let down with all the talk from GM about how you won't be able to tell the difference but-- it's cool. Other auto manufacturers are installing a top mounted filler lid but if GM engineers feel that for this particular car that it's best to not do that for the Camaro then- good enough. Overall however, from looking at the spy pics; the car looks "close enough" to the concept. I just really hope they install a very powerful motor in the SS/Z28/Blue Devil/Blue Flame/Big Cahoona/Mafusa or whatever they'll end up calling it. Come on GM... don't let me down this time. I'm talking 500+. If there won't be a 500+ motor... then I don't know what I'll do. I don't want a Dodge and I definately don't want a Ford. I'll probably buy a GTO and save $10,000 in depreciation.
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Old 02-17-2008, 08:37 PM   #231
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Hey Eisenhower, I am with you on the 500+ hp.... I think this is the time to do it. I would love to have this collectors car in my hands, for me I dont want a zero to sixty time or quater mile time better than a vett... I just want to leave a bubber trail the length of a football field.
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Old 02-17-2008, 08:52 PM   #232
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I'd be perfectly happy with a 4xx hp Z28 at this point. As long as it's under 30k and has a V8, I'll take one.
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I'm with you on that!^^
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:12 AM   #234
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I'd be perfectly happy with a 4xx hp Z28 at this point. As long as it's under 30k and has a V8, I'll take one.

Yep, that's what I'm hoping for. (Though while it may START under 30k, I assume a 'nicely equipped' model would go for 33/34. Or so I hope anyway.)

400+hp Nicely Equipped - $34,000 is exactly what I want.

Whether it's Z28 or SS remains to be seen. (I'd prefer Z28 though.)
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:49 AM   #235
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... I just really hope they install a very powerful motor in the SS/Z28/Blue Devil/Blue Flame/Big Cahoona/Mafusa or whatever they'll end up calling it. Come on GM... don't let me down this time. I'm talking 500+. If there won't be a 500+ motor... then I don't know what I'll do. ....
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Hey Eisenhower, I am with you on the 500+ hp.... I think this is the time to do it. I would love to have this collectors car in my hands, for me I dont want a zero to sixty time or quater mile time better than a vett... I just want to leave a bubber trail the length of a football field.
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:55 AM   #236
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Yep, that's what I'm hoping for. (Though while it may START under 30k, I assume a 'nicely equipped' model would go for 33/34. Or so I hope anyway.)

400+hp Nicely Equipped - $34,000 is exactly what I want.

Whether it's Z28 or SS remains to be seen. (I'd prefer Z28 though.)
Do you know if theres gonna be an SS or Z28 or both?
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:06 AM   #237
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ya im with you guys, the gas cap issue is in the rearview mirror for me. i think id prefer Z28 over SS because GM is using SS so openly (example: Trailblazer SS.... come on now) that its not as special as it used to be. if they went with the Z28 name plate it would be way more awesome, just because the Camaro would be the only one with the nameplate, plus it HAS TO HAVE imo 400+ hp for that Z28. that would kick so much @$$!!!!
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:10 PM   #238
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ya im with you guys, the gas cap issue is in the rearview mirror for me. i think id prefer Z28 over SS because GM is using SS so openly (example: Trailblazer SS.... come on now) that its not as special as it used to be. if they went with the Z28 name plate it would be way more awesome, just because the Camaro would be the only one with the nameplate, plus it HAS TO HAVE imo 400+ hp for that Z28. that would kick so much @$$!!!!
GM has pulled back from that position lately. One of their managers (I don't remember who) freely admitted they were using the SS badge a little too easily. The example was the Malibu SS and the non-SC Cobalt SS.

There was supposed to be an Equinox SS, which got bumped down to Equinox Sport. Same thing with the 2.4L non-SC Cobalt.

The HHR SS Turbo and Cobalt SS Turbo are worthy of the badge IMHO. 260hp in a turbo 4-banger is nothing to laugh at.

As for that Trailblazer SS you're thumbing your nose at, it has more power than the last Camaro SS, so I wouldn't be TOO condescending
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:24 PM   #239
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Chevy definetly went overboard with the SS badging. My wife and I own a non-SC SS Cobalt sedan. While it is a very nice car, it is not a SS. My mom owns a SS Malibu Maxx. Again it is a very nice car, but it also is not a SS. I am still going to buy a SS Camaro if I can afford one, wither it is the top model or not. But I will not buy a SS if it doesn't have a V8.
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Old 02-18-2008, 12:39 PM   #240
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Well that answered it thanks, and i'm with you the SS badge is used a little to freely, but what would really be the difference between the Z28 and the SS?
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Hopefully more than the old one (IE an exhaust and spoiler)
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:16 PM   #242
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I think that there should be some sort of criteria for deciding what deserves a super sport badge. Like maybe a power to weight ratio better than say 12 lbs/hp. using that on recent models that have worn the ss badge, it would include the new turbo cobalt, the monte carlo and the impala, the silverado, trailblazer, the base Camaro. But the malibu maxx, the supercharged cobalts, impalas, and montes, and the tahoe would not make the cut.
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:25 PM   #243
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When was there a Tahoe SS?
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There was actually a big difference between the SS and Z28 in the 60's. The SS was the high horsepower straight line muscle car. While the Z28 was a high reving light weight track car built to compete in the Trans Am series. As for the RS, it was nothing more than an appearance package. That is why you had RS/SS Camaros and RS/Z28 Camaros.
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I believe the Tahoe SS was a concept that never made it to production.
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Technically that's true. The concpet was called the Tahoe SS, but when it went to production (model year 2000's I believe), it came out as the Tahoe Limited. All of them were black 2WD, slightly lowered with the same 345HP engine as the Trailblazer SS and the Silverado SS.

So, technically, there never was a Tahoe SS from Chevy.
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Either way, that concept (according to my 12 lb/hp rule) didnt deserve an SS badge anyway.
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There was actually a big difference between the SS and Z28 in the 60's. The SS was the high horsepower straight line muscle car. While the Z28 was a high reving light weight track car built to compete in the Trans Am series. As for the RS, it was nothing more than an appearance package. That is why you had RS/SS Camaros and RS/Z28 Camaros.
Thanks for the history lesson. My education in the first couple generations is sadly lacking :(

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Technically that's true. The concpet was called the Tahoe SS, but when it went to production (model year 2000's I believe), it came out as the Tahoe Limited. All of them were black 2WD, slightly lowered with the same 345HP engine as the Trailblazer SS and the Silverado SS.
I can't find a Trailblazer SS prior to the slightly de-tuned 395hp LS2 in 2006.

The 03-06 EXT model had an optional 5.3L 290-300hp V8 though. 07-08 made the 5.3 optional on the regular Trailblazer as they discontinued the EXT.
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I can't find a Trailblazer SS prior to the slightly de-tuned 395hp LS2 in 2006.

The 03-06 EXT model had an optional 5.3L 290-300hp V8 though. 07-08 made the 5.3 optional on the regular Trailblazer as they discontinued the EXT.
Sorry, I guess I didn't say that very clearly (the conversation was about the Tahoe, so I didn't go into enough background)....all 3 "SS's" (Tahoe, Trailblazer, Silverado) were concepts at the time. They used a 345HP motor...the same one that ended up being used in the Silverado SS (the first one of the 3 to make it to production). By the time the Trailblazer SS came along, the power had been ramped up as you mention.
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