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Old 03-15-2013, 03:16 PM   #1
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Let's talk strategy shall we?

I'm going through my Union's auto buying service to get my car. I submitted a request Wednesday. They told me they emailed their dealers and "are looking all over the courntry" for the car I want. Becky was kind enough to find 3 that have exactly what I want already, so I know the cars exist.

When should I tell the buying group this information? I want to wait to see what they find (and hopefully its one that i know of already), but I dont want to wait too long because I want to take delivery by 3/31/13 and want some time to do my own negotiations with the dealers if the auto buying service doesn't work out.

Also, anyone use an auto buying service before? How'd that work out?

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Old 03-15-2013, 06:16 PM   #2
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It wouldn't surprise me if they aren't searching the full inventory (as Becky did for you), but only searching those dealers that they work with.

In any case, I see no problem with telling them now. You would at least get an answer.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:28 PM   #3
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It seems that they are steering me towards their dealers. Said they found one enroute to Chicago which their dealer can intercept.

I just don't have a good feeling about them. They seem pretty vague and keep quoting me a high MSRP.
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If you already know of 3 cars why don't you just contact the dealers and do your own negotiating? I would be surprised if you couldn't get a better deal than your "buying group".
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You should be able to negotiate below MSRP on your own. Any reason why you are using them to make the purchase? They should be quoting you Supplier Pricing numbers, not MSRP.

Go to your local dealer (or use Becky), and you can likely at least get Supplier Pricing (about 1500 below MSRP depending on model). Plus if you are planning to buy in March there is a $1000 incentive and if you can get Private Offer ($1000), you will save a bit more.
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Old 03-16-2013, 04:20 PM   #6
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I wanted to see how t worked and to see what they would come with. They aren't that helpful. I was nervous about the "car buying process". I am now doing my own negotiating and am armed with lots of information provided here! So far so good. I'm confident I can get a great price without the buying group.
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Old 03-16-2013, 04:21 PM   #7
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You should be able to negotiate below MSRP on your own. Any reason why you are using them to make the purchase? They should be quoting you Supplier Pricing numbers, not MSRP.

Go to your local dealer (or use Becky), and you can likely at least get Supplier Pricing (about 1500 below MSRP depending on model). Plus if you are planning to buy in March there is a $1000 incentive and if you can get Private Offer ($1000), you will save a bit more.
Thanks. I have the private offer and I know the $1000 incentive! So far my negotiations are going well.
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Old 03-16-2013, 04:47 PM   #8
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Thanks. I have the private offer and I know the $1000 incentive! So far my negotiations are going well.

In my opinion, you would be better off without them anyway....don't you have to pay these guys for their services?
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:16 PM   #9
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In my opinion, you would be better off without them anyway....don't you have to pay these guys for their services?
I suspect there may be a commission or something since MSRP is being quoted as +$2000.... I asked about it and they gave me a bs answer.
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Just do not disclose your private offer to any dealer you are negotiating with until you have them down to a price agreeable to you, save the private offer until the very end.
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Old 03-16-2013, 08:10 PM   #11
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Becky will take good care of you. She's an honest, respectable salesperson who is worthy of the business she gets here. I have yet to see any complaints.

Also, you're going to love that 2LT.
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Old 03-16-2013, 09:58 PM   #12
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Ditto for not showing your cards early. Keep everything close. do not disclose how you are going to finance, if there will be a trade in, monthly payments, etc until you get a price that you like. I used the link to see the employee price for a car and right now have negotiated to +800 of that. They want to charge $550 in doc fees so I am pushing for it to be lower.

I have used email and texts for the last two days to work on the price and finally gave in to show up at the dealership to do what could be the final negotiations. The fact I can walk at any time and still have a nice car to drive helps. Be sure to check around the area and get quotes from other dealers. If they do not want to deal with you online just skip and go to the next one.

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I'd look into asking Becky for her services but it sounds like you've already done so. I'm not familiar with the Union buyers service, im assuming its similar to USAA and NavyFeds car buying services?

What I would start with if you haven't already is get the Invoice pricing and GM Preferred pricing for that particular vehicle. If you give me the Options and everything I can find out for you if you'd like. Then whatever incentives you have whether it be a USAA discount ($750) and or the GM Private offer ($1000). The idea price for it would be the GM Preferred pricing + USAA + GM Private offer. Doc fees can always be waiverable, just depends on the dealership...

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Old 03-18-2013, 12:26 PM   #14
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Thanks guys!

I want a White 2LT automatic, sunroof, spare tire only.

I'm working with a dealer listed in the "MSRP or below" deler sticky by sheer coincidence...and they are certainly below MSRP..im actualyl suprised at what they are giving me! They have given me a good price so far, am trying to sort out delivery and trade....
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Cool, and good luck.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:05 PM   #16
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Thanks guys!

I want a White 2LT automatic, sunroof, spare tire only.

I'm working with a dealer listed in the "MSRP or below" deler sticky by sheer coincidence...and they are certainly below MSRP..im actualyl suprised at what they are giving me! They have given me a good price so far, am trying to sort out delivery and trade....
Total msrp $31,820
GM Preferred/Military price $30,913
Current offers -$1,000(Cash Allowance: Up to $1,000 cash back)
Net Price: $29,913
USAA Discount: -$750
GM Private Offer: -$1000

Discounted Price: $28,163

If they are able to give you $28,163 or cheaper I'd say its a GREAT deal for the vehicle and thats the price of what you listed. Lets us know.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:26 AM   #17
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I'm sure it's been covered and yes i've been searching but how do you get the GM $1000 Private Offer?

Finally found it i think. Credit Union Member discount..

http://www.gm.com/vehicles/current_o...ember_Discount

Looks like this is just a preferred price so i'm still looking for the Private Offer

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Old 03-19-2013, 09:52 AM   #18
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I'm sure it's been covered and yes i've been searching but how do you get the GM $1000 Private Offer?

Finally found it i think. Credit Union Member discount..
You'll have to visit Chevrolet.com, and try the searching game. It'll pop up after x amount of minutes. Others have received the offer in the mail.
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You'll have to visit Chevrolet.com, and try the searching game. It'll pop up after x amount of minutes. Others have received the offer in the mail.
Went on Chat at Chevrolet.com and received this response about the $1000 offer:

There is however a pop-up offer on the Chevrolet website that randomly pops up. You may want to refresh a few times and see if you can get that offer to come up/
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She already stated that she has a Private Offer.
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Total msrp $31,820
GM Preferred/Military price $30,913
Current offers -$1,000(Cash Allowance: Up to $1,000 cash back)
Net Price: $29,913
USAA Discount: -$750
GM Private Offer: -$1000

Discounted Price: $28,163

If they are able to give you $28,163 or cheaper I'd say its a GREAT deal for the vehicle and thats the price of what you listed. Lets us know.
I wouldn't settle for that deal, I just bought a 1LT and did much better than that. If you are willing to drive then find all acceptable cars within your range and negotiate with each one, see who is really willing to make a deal.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:23 PM   #22
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Total msrp $31,820
GM Preferred/Military price $30,913
Current offers -$1,000(Cash Allowance: Up to $1,000 cash back)
Net Price: $29,913
USAA Discount: -$750
GM Private Offer: -$1000

Discounted Price: $28,163

If they are able to give you $28,163 or cheaper I'd say its a GREAT deal for the vehicle and thats the price of what you listed. Lets us know.
Thanks!! You've been really helpful.
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:28 PM   #23
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I wouldn't settle for that deal, I just bought a 1LT and did much better than that. If you are willing to drive then find all acceptable cars within your range and negotiate with each one, see who is really willing to make a deal.
That's what I'm doing. Waiting on responses for my counter offer....and I'm getting impatient! Lol
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:15 AM   #24
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I wouldn't settle for that deal, I just bought a 1LT and did much better than that. If you are willing to drive then find all acceptable cars within your range and negotiate with each one, see who is really willing to make a deal.
Below invoice is a great deal, as many here can say. If you did better than that post true and honest #'s not including trade. Post your buyers order to give the OP an example to go off of. Include the hold back prices as well.

OP, if your able to get below invoice that is a great deal like mentioned. Obviously below that is even better but you start dipping in the holdback price and you may or may not get a dealer that's willing to do so. There in it to make $ as well so a $250-$500 or so hold back may be something they are willing to accept. But if you tell anyone you purchased a vehicle at or below invoice it's good. Trust me! And your welcome.
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Ok, well as an example here is the deal I got on my 1LT.
msrp was $29,780
Dealer came down to $27,080
I had $3500 in incentives on top of that to bring my price down to $23,580
I didn't even ask what dealer invoice was as $27,080 is below invoice.
My incentives were cash back from chevy, private offer, gm card topoff and auto show cash.

I contacted many dealers who had cars on their lot that were acceptable to me. I got serious with 3 of them, I ended up getting a better deal on a '13 than a couple of new 12's I was looking at.
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