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Old 06-23-2009, 05:06 PM   #26
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Turbo car respond well to tunes !
Some turbo cars can pick up +75 hp with a tune
wow lol, that is pretty awesome. hmm, a turbo may need to be in my Camaro's future somewhere
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:19 PM   #27
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I was at the Bristol Tn dragstrip on Friday (june 12) for the Hot Rod Power Tour and I saw an 09 Colbalt SS/TC run a 14.4 in the quarter mile, it was from Texas. I am not sure if it had any mods. I also saw a 2010 Camaro SS with a manual trans run a 14.2 but the track was slick and it spun bad. I was impressed by the Colbalt. My son has an 06 SS/SC and it runs good but the TC are stronger.
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:27 PM   #28
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On paper the Cobalt SS sounds like a deal, but in person it just looks like an Econobox imo.
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:49 PM   #29
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On paper the Cobalt SS sounds like a deal, but in person it just looks like an Econobox imo.
That's because it IS an econobox. But it's a fun econobox -with a great chassis set-up. I'm getting high 27's/low 28s in all-around driving for tank averages.

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Old 06-23-2009, 06:02 PM   #30
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On paper the Cobalt SS sounds like a deal, but in person it just looks like an Econobox imo.
yup.

I think the caliber srt4 has more versatility. stage 1 installed, hitting about 310 to the wheels with a CAI and downpipe. Wish we had someone to do a tune to this car, no body does so far. This car is a mid 13sec car with a good track. with slicks and a agp wastegate it will hit 12's.

pics if you are not familiar with the srt
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ray811/...7605421451419/
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:27 PM   #31
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yup.
Hehe, not going to let it turn into some Caliber vs Cobalt pissing contest because that would be a Caliber vs Camaro thread. But they're both econoboxes friend- I concede victory though because of the glovebox-refridgerator.
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:35 PM   #32
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Hehe, not going to let it turn into some Caliber vs Cobalt pissing contest because that would be a Caliber vs Camaro thread. But they're both econoboxes friend- I concede victory though because of the glovebox-refridgerator.
LOL. Was just passing info. But yes , I see what you are saying.
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:51 PM   #33
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yup.

I think the caliber srt4 has more versatility. stage 1 installed, hitting about 310 to the wheels with a CAI and downpipe. Wish we had someone to do a tune to this car, no body does so far. This car is a mid 13sec car with a good track. with slicks and a agp wastegate it will hit 12's.

pics if you are not familiar with the srt
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ray811/...7605421451419/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mocktur...7605727545391/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/74483092@N00/1052234518/
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are the calibers any better than the neons?
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:55 PM   #34
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Way better in power and and capable power out of the box.
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Didnt the Caliber win some alltimeworst award?
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:21 PM   #36
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May have been the caliber, don't think it was the SRT two completly diffrent cars. Only thing they really share is the shell
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:31 PM   #37
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May have been the caliber, don't think it was the SRT two completly diffrent cars. Only thing they really share is the shell
speaking of shell, the car has always reminded me of a ninja turtle.
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:42 PM   #38
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Hahahah. I always though of a bettle

Turtle power. LOL
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Old 06-23-2009, 07:44 PM   #39
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Hahahah. I always though of a bettle

Turtle power. LOL
haha yea, and the SRT-4 Neon is the skittle
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:51 AM   #40
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Tune for our car normally get 300+ hp

that has to be a conservative tune!
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:34 PM   #41
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Tune for our car normally get 300+ hp

that has to be a conservative tune!
The car had 50 miles on it, so it wasn't broke in. Our G8 GXP picked up 20 RWHP from the baseline dyno pull at 20 miles to the pull at 1,000 miles with no mods.

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Old 06-24-2009, 02:02 PM   #42
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Hehe, not going to let it turn into some Caliber vs Cobalt pissing contest because that would be a Caliber vs Camaro thread. But they're both econoboxes friend- I concede victory though because of the glovebox-refridgerator.
The Cobalt would look nice with some body mods, but the interior is too plane. Tis why I love the Camaro so much
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:09 PM   #43
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The car had 50 miles on it, so it wasn't broke in. Our G8 GXP picked up 20 RWHP from the baseline dyno pull at 20 miles to the pull at 1,000 miles with no mods.

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What do you guys do for the cobalt?
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:34 PM   #44
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What do you guys do for the cobalt?
A lot of guys, including myself are just having us tune them.

We can also do bolt's such as CAI, downpipe and exhaust, intercooler upgrades, etc.

Another car that we recently had on the dyno with CAI, downpipe and exhaust made 320 WHP / 340 WTQ.

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Old 06-24-2009, 06:40 PM   #45
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What about this?
Turbo kit for the Colbalt. 371whp 383wtq at 22 psi.
http://www.synapseturbo.com/mm5/merc..._Code=features

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Old 06-25-2009, 09:42 AM   #46
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Turbo kit for the Colbalt. 371whp 383wtq at 22 psi.
http://www.synapseturbo.com/mm5/merc..._Code=features

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Wow, that thing is pretty crazy! I just couldn't spend that much to mod a Cobalt..

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Old 06-25-2009, 11:47 AM   #47
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New cheaper kits are out... more hp

400 hp has been reached easy!! turbo swap and all stock parts...

ZZP is doing that

Also rick, What are your prices on intercoolers? I have been looking at one, CrazySteve (Guinuen Sabb) Sells one and has no probles...and its only 280 shipped. And if anything goes wrong with it we can send it back

noone has beat that at all.
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Old 06-25-2009, 12:24 PM   #48
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New cheaper kits are out... more hp

400 hp has been reached easy!! turbo swap and all stock parts...

ZZP is doing that

Also rick, What are your prices on intercoolers? I have been looking at one, CrazySteve (Guinuen Sabb) Sells one and has no probles...and its only 280 shipped. And if anything goes wrong with it we can send it back

noone has beat that at all.
That's a great deal on the intercooler. I've only seen the Hahn and I believe it is $749.00.

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New cheaper kits are out... more hp

400 hp has been reached easy!! turbo swap and all stock parts...

ZZP is doing that

Also rick, What are your prices on intercoolers? I have been looking at one, CrazySteve (Guinuen Sabb) Sells one and has no probles...and its only 280 shipped. And if anything goes wrong with it we can send it back

noone has beat that at all.
I have his ic it's really nice!! and i thought this was a ss/tc vs camaro not a CSRT4>SS/TC?? lol oh well
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Got to love Cobalt. It's probably the best compact Chevy has ever made.
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