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Old 06-20-2009, 12:55 AM   #1
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Angry Slow SS Camaro!! What the heck!!!

Hello all. New to the forum. Had my 2ss black camaro for about a month now. Changed the oil @ 1111 miles and took her to the track for the first time tonight. She is a automatic car and does not run. Made 4 total 8th mile passes and the best pass was 9.998 @ 72mph!!! Sixty foots were between 2.22 and 2.56. Tried it with her in D with traction and stabillitrack on. Tried it with it off. Tried it in performance mode and shifting manual, but she won't run. Times were 9.99 10.00 10.30 9.98. All passes ran 72mph save one @ 71.68mph. What the crap??? My old pickup truck runs 9.60!!! She doesn't run. Feels like an engine management issue or something. No codes or warning lights. No problems that I can feel, smell or hear. So...???? I will not have this car if it doesn't perform. It should go 8.80's in the 8th mile no matter what. Any ideas? Anyone else had this happen. 38k for a car like this is NOT what I bought. Help please.
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Old 06-20-2009, 12:57 AM   #2
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wtf? That sux, no idea, talk to your dealer n
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that 1/8th mile MPH is horrible. That would only be 90 mph through the 1/4!

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Old 06-20-2009, 01:01 AM   #5
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Hello all. New to the forum. Had my 2ss black camaro for about a month now. Changed the oil @ 1111 miles and took her to the track for the first time tonight. She is a automatic car and does not run. Made 4 total 8th mile passes and the best pass was 9.998 @ 72mph!!! Sixty foots were between 2.22 and 2.56. Tried it with her in D with traction and stabillitrack on. Tried it with it off. Tried it in performance mode and shifting manual, but she won't run. Times were 9.99 10.00 10.30 9.98. All passes ran 72mph save one @ 71.68mph. What the crap??? My old pickup truck runs 9.60!!! She doesn't run. Feels like an engine management issue or something. No codes or warning lights. No problems that I can feel, smell or hear. So...???? I will not have this car if it doesn't perform. It should go 8.80's in the 8th mile no matter what. Any ideas? Anyone else had this happen. 38k for a car like this is NOT what I bought. Help please.
my $18,000 '02 heavy convertible street tire SS with an ls1 is running 8.6-8.7 with a best of 8.5 in the 1/8th

perhaps we should trade engines lol
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i'd go bring it up with your dealer. Camaro SS is a fast car obv.
i don't know anything about 1/4 mile racing or anything along those lines, and i won't pretend to. but from what the the previous posters have said, it's not good.

Dealer's the one to talk to.
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:03 AM   #7
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I can't even put into words how disgusted I am with this. What can I do to get this rectified? What would a dealer have to do? I won't pay for this car if it won't perform as advertised.
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:04 AM   #8
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Those are horrible sixty foot times. A 2.56! Are you kidding me, it should be in the 1.xx at least.

Don't race with stabilitrak on and let the car shift itself, you were probably hitting the limiter or short shifting it.

My money is on that there is nothing wrong with the car and it's all on the driver.
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:05 AM   #9
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It was hot down here so the worst I expected was 8.80's. Best 8.40's. but 10.oh's ..... That's not gonna work.
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:11 AM   #10
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It's all stock. Track could have been better. Didn't make any difference if I or the car shifted itself. Same results. Sixtys could have been better but even in the 1.90's is not gonna make that kind of difference in the lousy mph. I'm not new to drag racing. I did not miss any shifts. The car just seems to lay down. Almost feels like it's only @ half throttle. Also feels like it may be shifting itself from 2nd to 4th. To consistant mph and et wise. Like it's in limp mode. Bet it aint the driver.
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Those are horrible sixty foot times. A 2.56! Are you kidding me, it should be in the 1.xx at least.

Don't race with stabilitrak on and let the car shift itself, you were probably hitting the limiter or short shifting it.

My money is on that there is nothing wrong with the car and it's all on the driver.
1.xx at least?? you don't even know the conditions the track was in. I've been to the track where anything under 2.0x was impossible.

There are too many variables to be making such baseless statements.
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It's all stock. Track could have been better. Didn't make any difference if I or the car shifted itself. Same results. Sixtys could have been better but even in the 1.90's is not gonna make that kind of difference in the lousy mph. I'm not new to drag racing. I did not miss any shifts. The car just seems to lay down. Almost feels like it's only @ half throttle. Also feels like it may be shifting itself from 2nd to 4th. To consistant mph and et wise. Like it's in limp mode. Bet it aint the driver.
Are you sure you were even starting in 1st?
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:22 AM   #13
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Those are horrible sixty foot times. A 2.56! Are you kidding me, it should be in the 1.xx at least.

Don't race with stabilitrak on and let the car shift itself, you were probably hitting the limiter or short shifting it.

My money is on that there is nothing wrong with the car and it's all on the driver.
My money is on you are an internet racer. Probably a 15 year old wishing he actually had a car to play with. I hear xbox has some pretty cool games. If you're nice maybe santa will bring you one for Christmas.
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:33 AM   #14
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Ok. Enough of the name calling.

i bet you a million bucks if leatherneck was standing in front of you, you wouldn't talk like that to his face. Have some respect.....

To the OP, there were a few others who had the same issue. I am very sorry that I can't recall who, but there is a thread discussing this. It was fixed. Take it back to the dealer for starters and talk to the service rep.
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:34 AM   #15
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My money is on you are an internet racer. Probably a 15 year old wishing he actually had a car to play with. I hear xbox has some pretty cool games. If you're nice maybe santa will bring you one for Christmas.
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:45 AM   #16
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It was in first. The first run had me wondering if I might have overlooked that. I know the sixties could have been better but 9.90's? Come on. The track was crap but the 2.56 was just to see if it was gonna try to hook. It did not. The others were 2.2's and 2.3's. It was 89 degrees but still should be in the 8's. If anyone remembers who has had the same problem, please send them my way. Should be alot closer to 80mph than it is to 70. Just doesn't feel right. Not satisfied.
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It was in first. The first run had me wondering if I might have overlooked that. I know the sixties could have been better but 9.90's? Come on. The track was crap but the 2.56 was just to see if it was gonna try to hook. It did not. The others were 2.2's and 2.3's. It was 89 degrees but still should be in the 8's. If anyone remembers who has had the same problem, please send them my way. Should be alot closer to 80mph than it is to 70. Just doesn't feel right. Not satisfied.
I agree, it should be at 80 - 85 mph.
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:48 AM   #18
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Are you stalling it up against the brake before launching, or just side stepping the brake & hitting the gas? Not trying to be an A$$, just wondering why the short times are so far off?
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Old 06-20-2009, 06:08 AM   #19
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Man don't beat yourself to death over this, I ran my A6 last night also and I'm pretty dissappointed also. I did a little better than you but not much...

My best 1/8th was 9.05 @ 78.1 with a 2.126 60'

That was me hot lapping it on my second run, flash stalling it off idle with TC and stabilitrack off (no competition mod with still leaves ST on). I felt same as you, like I was towing a boat or something...shifting was inconsistent. It would shift at like 5400 in first, then it might shift near 6K in second, then 3rd might be at 5800...it was all over the place. I really feel like the ECM was pulling LOADS of timing. Driving it on the street it definitely felt faster. I'm embarraced really, how slow the thing was, people were lined up watching my first few runs, and I run a 14.1, and 13.9....Sucks.

I would get a dyno though, to see if your making advertised power, if not take it to the dealer. There have been a few guys with faulty ECM's. But you can't expect 8.40's in weather like you ran in ....those are unreal expectations. Put a stall, headers and Tune on it and you will run 8's though, guarateed!
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Did it bog on take-off? What rpm did you leave at?
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Yeah, somethings not right.
But I will have to jump in and say that your 60' times are really bad (even on a unprepped track).
You need to leave the line without just mashing the gas to the floor. A gentle rolling into the throttle will get you off the line with decent 60' times.

Even on an unprepped track you should be able to pull 2.1 sec 60' times with a gentle launch.

But your trap speeds indicate something is wrong with your car. Even in 90 degree heat your car should be trapping 80+ mph.

If it was my car I would get it on a dyno and see what's going on. Your Camaro should be making around 320 rwhp. And if you get your car dynoed they can check out the tuning, etc.
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Ok. Enough of the name calling.

i bet you a million bucks if leatherneck was standing in front of you, you wouldn't talk like that to his face. Have some respect.....

To the OP, there were a few others who had the same issue. I am very sorry that I can't recall who, but there is a thread discussing this. It was fixed. Take it back to the dealer for starters and talk to the service rep.
WHat exactly was this issue? I read about another with the same issue but heard nothing about a cause or a fix???
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Old 06-20-2009, 07:25 AM   #23
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Yes the sixty foots are off. It's not bogging and not going up in smoke. The issue really is the mph. I could handle the bad et's and chock it up to "I can't drive" if the mph was there.....but it isn't. It almost has to be a ecm or wot issue. I don't know. It would take me forever to get it to a dyno that actually has someone that knows something about tuning. Anyone got someone to recomend in south GA or North Fla? It's got to be something simple like a tune. Anybody else had the same issue or know someone who has?
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#230 is a dog also. I am really not happy at all with the performance. Got beat by 3 car lenghts by a Mustang GT at the stop light on the highway. I was in Sport mode and the car is a total dog.

Had it at my dealer yesterday and they took all kinds of readings and calibration setting and sent them to GM. I have been complaining since this is not what I expected for my 36,000.00. I hope they figure out the need new flash for the ECM and Transmission and get this issue fixed.
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Wow..sorry to hear about the problems w/ the V8, I hope the V6 runs alot better..
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