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Old 06-20-2009, 07:08 AM   #1
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Ordered June 18th Awsome guy to buy from...

Richard Stairs at Loe Martin Chev ordered my new RS/SS Camaro for me. Was awsome to deal with and a great person to talk to. Has a lot of knowledge on the Camaro also, Very up front about the price and very fair. I recommend him to everyone, will not get messed around with this guy. He goes by dstairs on the board.

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Old 06-20-2009, 06:47 PM   #2
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Thanks Dave! Great customers are getting harder to find in recents months due to the economic situation of the world, and I feel fortunate that Leo Martin Chevrolet was selected by GM to continue to be their partner in the restucturing plans, our Letter of Participation arrived only a few weeks ago and since then the stress level has dropped considerably. Once again thanks Dave fo rthe nice comments. I will add we are selling at MSRP for our local customers, and have no interest in doing drop shipments or selling to other dealers , or consumers outside of our area. I will price the car above MSRP if the car is not staying local, we are interested in building our customer base for the future and the premim price is set only to allow our local customers the opportunity to buy local.

So far every SS we have ordered has been spoken for before the car hit the lot. It is an exciting time if you are a Camaro fan!
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Old 06-20-2009, 06:59 PM   #3
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BeardWS6 I hate to burst your bubble but about 80% of Dealerships will tell you that 6-8 weeks when they know damn well right its a lie. Any honest dealership will tell you 6-8 months on anything ordered in June.
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BeardWS6 I hate to burst your bubble but about 80% of Dealerships will tell you that 6-8 weeks when they know damn well right its a lie. Any honest dealership will tell you 6-8 months on anything ordered in June.

not true buddy!!
they have about 23 to 25 thousand Camaro orders and they hit 20,000 two days ago so yeah i would say 2 months for his car! i ordered in May and expecting a early to mid July delivery! another thing it depends if his dealer has an allocation!!!
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:49 AM   #5
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Guys, both salesman I have been working with at 2 differant dealerships told me the same timeline. Each as already handed over several cars to customers who have ordered. Jerry at Champion told me 6-8 weeks when I got in line and he has given 6 to his customers already- this is the time line his have been shipped to him. Richard has also handed over several and his delearship has gotten them in within this timeline. So why would I feel any differant about my order.
They had the allocation already and I got it right off the bat, I got very lucky with this one. I understand many have had to wait, and I could end up being one. But I had 2 differant salesman who have no reason to lie to me and are on this forum as awsome to buy from and their dealerships are good MSRP. I even said it would take longer and they said no. We shall see guys, have faith brothers. Not all dealerships lie to us. Again, if you have the allocation at that time it helps get yours alot quicker...

Word is they are putting out 3000 cars per week now with overtime.....SWEET
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:55 AM   #6
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not true buddy!!
they have about 23 to 25 thousand Camaro orders and they hit 20,000 two days ago so yeah i would say 2 months for his car! i ordered in May and expecting a early to mid July delivery! another thing it depends if his dealer has an allocation!!!
I went 3000 on May 27th then 3300 on June 16th with a TPW of June 29th, since you went 3000 10 days later you'll probably be behind me 10 days later and remember the plant is going to be closed from July 6th to the 13th. You wont see your car in Mid July probably mid August late August but not in July.

A realistic window of when to get the car would probably be a 3-4 month window.
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:01 PM   #7
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6-8 weeks is not realistic I don't care what dealership or salesman you talked to most of them say the same thing. In fact 3 of my local dealerships told me the same thing but another one told me flat out they are lieing to you... Realistic is 3-6 months.
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:33 PM   #8
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BeardWS6 I hate to burst your bubble but about 80% of Dealerships will tell you that 6-8 weeks when they know damn well right its a lie. Any honest dealership will tell you 6-8 months on anything ordered in June.
I can say I think 6 to 8 weeks is possible and I am being perfectly honest about it. I have tracked every Camaro we have ordered at our dealership at every level of its status.

I really see no reason to call someone a liar. I suppose it is possible the shut down will cause a slow re-ramping but it will not be anywhere close to 6 to 8 months as you have stated, I am willing to wager my 6 to 8 weeks is a closer estimate than your 6 to 8 months.

I think a lot of folks that ordered back in Oct are confusing the time it takes to build the car to the time they had to wait, remember they started building in March that is only 3 months and over 20,000 have been produced and a majority of them have been delivered.

So like Dave said if you get lucky and hit the allotment just right all things will move quickly. If you are at a dealership that has you in a holding pattern awaiting your allotment, then you have wait until that allotment is made available, THEN you have 6 to 8 weeks before delivery, whether you ordered in Oct or June if your allotment comes up this week you get the car on or about the same week.
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I would agree with the salesmen on this - although with the shutdown you may push to 8-12 weeks.

They are making 400 - 440 Camaros a day, 6 days a week. They are past VIN# 20000...

I have family working in the plant, I'm not guessing at the numbers. As well, GM brought in a LOT of parts prior to bankruptcy so that they can keep building the Oshawa cars for as long as possible... obviously this could become an issue at some point, but right now things are looking good. I'm giving my order 3-4 months in my head so I don't end up disappointed, but I'm hoping closer to the 3 month mark.

Of course, all this is counting on allotment, but it sounds like your salesmen is being honest...
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I would agree with the salesmen on this - although with the shutdown you may push to 8-12 weeks.

They are making 400 - 440 Camaros a day, 6 days a week. They are past VIN# 20000...

I have family working in the plant, I'm not guessing at the numbers. As well, GM brought in a LOT of parts prior to bankruptcy so that they can keep building the Oshawa cars for as long as possible... obviously this could become an issue at some point, but right now things are looking good. I'm giving my order 3-4 months in my head so I don't end up disappointed, but I'm hoping closer to the 3 month mark.

Of course, all this is counting on allotment, but it sounds like your salesmen is being honest...
Allocation is the key word.

BTW When Is the Shutdown,
I know its for two weeks......
My TPW is this past week. Should have a Vin Next week. Hope my car ships before then.

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have any of yall that are saying 3-4 months not reading a single thing on this forum???? they have between 23 and 25 thousand Camaro orders and they hit VIN # 20,000 3 days ago??........ that means yeah for this guy 6-8 weeks judging by they are making 450+ per day and they are working saturdays too!! so yeah everybody should have their car in July!!! da*n people start reading on this forum and stop trying to prove people wrong with sh*t you dont even know about!!!
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Allocation is the key word.

BTW When Is the Shutdown,
I know its for two weeks......
My TPW is this past week. Should have a Vin Next week. Hope my car ships before then.

the shut down is the week of July 6th through the 13th and its only for one week!
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the shut down is the week of July 6th through the 13th and its only for one week!
Whoooooooooo Yay! Hopefully I'll have a Vin on Monday and it can ship the following Week.
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have any of yall that are saying 3-4 months not reading a single thing on this forum???? they have between 23 and 25 thousand Camaro orders and they hit VIN # 20,000 3 days ago??........ that means yeah for this guy 6-8 weeks judging by they are making 450+ per day and they are working saturdays too!! so yeah everybody should have their car in July!!! da*n people start reading on this forum and stop trying to prove people wrong with sh*t you dont even know about!!!
Your the one that needs to go back and read, the first out of the first 7000 cars only 614 were for customers, so in truth only about 13k have been produced to supply orders.

Now if the salesman is so sure the car will come in in 6-8 weeks I bet he wouldnt mind making a wager with his customer, if the car doesnt arrive in 6-8 weeks take 1k off MSRP, seeing that you are so sure I bet that wont be a problem.

and Im not saying the car wont be produced in 6-8 weeks while that is very possible you have to take into account that the car can be held for QC chekcs and is subject to shipping delays in many forms.
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da*n people start reading on this forum and stop trying to prove people wrong with sh*t you dont even know about!!!
Calm down little chipmunk. It's possible to get a car in 6-8 weeks. It's probable that it'll be much longer.
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ok sorry everybody abou my rant lol i am just stating from what i have heard!! and what i heard came from people who acctually work on the line!! so sorry about my rant!!!


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Your the one that needs to go back and read, the first out of the first 7000 cars only 614 were for customers, so in truth only about 13k have been produced to supply orders.

Now if the salesman is so sure the car will come in in 6-8 weeks I bet he wouldnt mind making a wager with his customer, if the car doesnt arrive in 6-8 weeks take 1k off MSRP, seeing that you are so sure I bet that wont be a problem.

and Im not saying the car wont be produced in 6-8 weeks while that is very possible you have to take into account that the car can be held for QC chekcs and is subject to shipping delays in many forms.
I agree.


Simply put, there IS no guarantee. It's the guarantee that we have a problem conceptualizing, OP. Problems happen that even the dealer cannot forsee or prevent.
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TRUE!! that sucks to because I want it also..

Guys, I do agree 6-8 weeks is tough, and with the plant being down for July 4 week it would push me futher, QC could be a problem also. But come on, their are people on this site who are getting cars within this time line. CHILL OUT!! I appriciate your comments on my time of delivery. As I have said before, we shall see. I mainly posted to discuss the HONEST sales person I have worked with, not to get in a pissing match over my time line to be delivered. Peace BRO!
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Car is at the dealer getting cleaned up. Took 8 weeks from the time of the order to the dealership. For all you guys who didn`t trust my salesman, here you go!!
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