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Old 03-24-2013, 04:50 PM   #18
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Had the problem, 2 bows broken and top replaced 3 times. Finally got GM and my dealership to take a late 2012 top and replace the Canvas, the mechanics, and install the larger water management bag. No problems since ! I do feel the road noise is a little loud but honestly I think its me
If you think its wrong push for a total replacement not just a canvas top and a GM rep to be there for the install. They really do know how to fix it correctly.
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Old 03-24-2013, 04:51 PM   #19
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Hard to tell on a wet top. But didn't Rogers Chev go through your whole top before you bought it to make sure it was perfect? I want to see a perfect top where the dealer has not touched it. I see two rubs in your picture and that is wet. Would love to see it dried off and in the sun.
Your reaching if you consider every rub mark a problem... What do you expect after a top has been lowered several hundred times? It is not going to be rub free. The type material it is I can rub my finger across it and leave a mark. As long as its not wearing there is no problem.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:08 PM   #20
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I agree with you. But I see one above the drivers door in the same place all the other rubs are located. It is circular. Not normal. There is a major problem with plenty of 2011 and 2012's tops. Go look around on lots at the used ones. Heck, I told many people last summer that there holes above the doors were not normal. You know what the dealerships told them? It was normal. The majority of the people are not on this board and have no clue. They are just listening to their dealer and going on their merry way. You were lucky. You had a dealer that actually gave a two shits about not only you the customer, but the car also. Rare in today's day and age.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:33 PM   #21
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I agree with you. But I see one above the drivers door in the same place all the other rubs are located. It is circular. Not normal. There is a major problem with plenty of 2011 and 2012's tops. Go look around on lots at the used ones. Heck, I told many people last summer that there holes above the doors were not normal. You know what the dealerships told them? It was normal. The majority of the people are not on this board and have no clue. They are just listening to their dealer and going on their merry way. You were lucky. You had a dealer that actually gave a two shits about not only you the customer, but the car also. Rare in today's day and age.
I am not sure what you are calling a circular rub mark.
Yes Rodgers is a top notch dealership, if something starts wearing in the next couple years I guess I will have to jump through hoops to get it fixed. But as of now I am not going to over react at every little mark that may show at one time or another on the top. Life is too short to make something like that a focal point.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:55 PM   #22
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Easy for you to say that. You have not went through what myself and many others have. I got my first 2012 on 8/4/11. By 11/1/11 it was in the shop for 29 days. New top, flood, two window regulators replaced, door paint falling off, seat bottom tore when my wife sat in it. The second but ever in that seat. Brake reservoir cap leaking, top handle broke, rear window trim on both sides replaced. All said and done the car was in the shop or waiting on parts for 110 days. I only had the car on the road from 8/4/11 through 11/1/11. Then it was in storage or sitting at the dealer all winter getting fixed or waiting on parts. Not bad for a 40,000 car. I had less than 3k on it when it was bought back.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:06 PM   #23
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Easy for you to say that. You have not went through what myself and many others have. I got my first 2012 on 8/4/11. By 11/1/11 it was in the shop for 29 days. New top, flood, two window regulators replaced, door paint falling off, seat bottom tore when my wife sat in it. The second but ever in that seat. Brake reservoir cap leaking, top handle broke, rear window trim on both sides replaced. All said and done the car was in the shop or waiting on parts for 110 days. I only had the car on the road from 8/4/11 through 11/1/11. Then it was in storage or sitting at the dealer all winter getting fixed or waiting on parts. Not bad for a 40,000 car. I had less than 3k on it when it was bought back.
How's your 2012 been?
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:10 PM   #24
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So far my second 2012 is doing ok. Watching a rub mark from the flapping on the back well but it hasn't progressed yet. Dealership knows about it. Once it comes out of storage, I will give it the once over again and keep my eyes out.
What some of you don't understand is I was accused of creating my damaged top by the dealership. They told me I was putting the top down wet. I proceeded to nicely tell them that was not the case. The top on my 95 Firebird Vert looked brand new when I sold it in May of 2011. My cars are never driven in rain nor winter. Stored 6 months out of the year.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:24 PM   #25
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So far my second 2012 is doing ok. Watching a rub mark from the flapping on the back well but it hasn't progressed yet. Dealership knows about it. Once it comes out of storage, I will give it the once over again and keep my eyes out.
What some of you don't understand is I was accused of creating my damaged top by the dealership. They told me I was putting the top down wet. I proceeded to nicely tell them that was not the case. The top on my 95 Firebird Vert looked brand new when I sold it in May of 2011. My cars are never driven in rain nor winter. Stored 6 months out of the year.
You seem to take very good care of your cars, I don't understand some dealers why they have to play games with their customers.
I wish you all the luck with your 2012.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:43 PM   #26
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After being what I went through and many others, I am gunshy on this current car. Keep thinking not if but when. If I like the looks of the new CRT Cuda Vert my Camaro is going by by. I cannot in good faith sit around and worry about a potential flood, 5th bow, window regulators, etc and only having 3 years of warranty. As I said, my car is driven 6 months out of the year and only on nice days. That will be about 10K by the time warranty is up. My Firebird just turned 100K when I sold it. Bought it with 39K on it. So 61K in 14 summers of driving.
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:06 PM   #27
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How about posting some pictures of these problem free tops? Would live to see a close-up of the areas above both doors.
those were the 1st problems that the verts had - the "V" marks above each door. Not happening anymore.
The key is to find a dealership that has EXPERIENCE fixing these things...otherwise, you'll be going back more than once...
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:08 PM   #28
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Come drive my coupe, no wind noise, no water, less weight, maybe I can make you a believer. I'm not gonna lie occasionally I miss dropping the top, but there's nothing like a real roof.
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:20 PM   #29
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Not happening anymore? Really? What proof do you have? Plenty of owners over here that wish they didn't have any problems.
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:40 PM   #30
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After being what I went through and many others, I am gunshy on this current car. Keep thinking not if but when. If I like the looks of the new CRT Cuda Vert my Camaro is going by by. I cannot in good faith sit around and worry about a potential flood, 5th bow, window regulators, etc and only having 3 years of warranty. As I said, my car is driven 6 months out of the year and only on nice days. That will be about 10K by the time warranty is up. My Firebird just turned 100K when I sold it. Bought it with 39K on it. So 61K in 14 summers of driving.
Nobody can blame you for being gun shy.
Mine is just about ready to turn over 10k miles in 9 months. Although I didn't pay anywhere near $40k for mine it was still a sizable chunk of money.
That being said even with the possible problems that may befall me I like this car twice as much as I did my 2010 coupe. But I will say this, if I had as many problems you did I would be gun shy also.
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Old 03-24-2013, 11:43 PM   #31
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After being what I went through and many others, I am gunshy on this current car. Keep thinking not if but when. If I like the looks of the new CRT Cuda Vert my Camaro is going by by. I cannot in good faith sit around and worry about a potential flood, 5th bow, window regulators, etc and only having 3 years of warranty. As I said, my car is driven 6 months out of the year and only on nice days. That will be about 10K by the time warranty is up. My Firebird just turned 100K when I sold it. Bought it with 39K on it. So 61K in 14 summers of driving.
OK, what CRT Cuda Vert??? I hear rumors but have found NO evidence that this is actually happening.....do you have a website?

I have had no issues as far a leaky water bags or holes.....but do have the V marks, the TSB was done, but still have them. Until I get a hole or torn fabric, it's not going back.
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:25 AM   #32
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out here long island new york.. brought SS 2011 convertable in for wind noise and tape recall fix.. Now when I drive it i sounds like Grannys Dentures are loose and shes got hypothermia..... Any recomendations for a Qualified top shop that can deal with this would be great local dealer not interested or qualified, every time I get it back its worse than before..

I would say the best thing to do is to go to any dealership for the service and let us know how the service went. We are here at your convenience.

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Here is one link
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...da-future-cars
Here is another
http://www.motortrend.com/future/fut..._for_the_road/
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Thanks for those two links!!! Some badass cars right there.....but I need a ragtop, hopefully they will come out with a 'Cuda ragtop.....a 4 cylinder Demon doesn't cut it for me.

Until then, I'll stick with my Silver Streak.
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