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Old 03-27-2013, 06:47 PM   #451
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so what's the difference b/w the Z/28 and the 1LE besides HP?
Seriously? Go read post #1. It is more than just tires and a LS7.

The rear glass is thinner for lighter weight.
It has helical gear limited slip.
They didn't just remove the fog lights, they even removed the wiring harness to save weight.
They took out the back seat pass thru to save something like 6 pounds.
They engineered new back seats to pull all the weight out of them.
CARBON CERAMIC BRAKE ROTORS like on the ZR1 and Ferrari Enzo!
Fixed caliper front brakes.

It goes on and on and on and on and on and on. This is a big time re engineering of this car to kick total ass. Go read. Its all there.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:49 PM   #452
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You've obviously not been to the Z28 threads.
Hahaha...I guess not.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:49 PM   #453
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Dayum now I'm confused. Is the 1Le a model or just a performance package for
the SS?
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:51 PM   #454
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[QUOTE=trm0002;6344773]First thoughts... all my opinions with no factual basis of course...
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1) Those who have the Z28 pegged at $60-65k plus need to get their heads examined. LSA vs LS7 crate motors for comparison are less than $1k apart. Take away all the amenities like HIDs, BA stereos, shit, A/C, carpeting, pass-through seating... and the Z28 should be less than a ZL1- considerably less- like $5-7k less. This car will come in at just above $50k; smack in the middle of a 1LE and a ZL1. Again, my OPINION only.
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I think you're missing the fact that the LS7 is going to be limited in production numbers, Carbon brakes alone are going to be much more expensive , add the Recaro's that the ZL1 doesn't have, the tires are at least double the cost of the ZL1 tires, so this is going to be at least $60k...live in denial, but GM will charge more for less amenities...
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:52 PM   #455
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Now that GM has all these great parts that all fit on the same car, it would be fantastic if one could order a build from the list. I'd order the LS7 in my 2SS RS 1LE with the recaros please.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:52 PM   #456
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First thoughts... all my opinions with no factual basis of course...
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1) Those who have the Z28 pegged at $60-65k plus need to get their heads examined. LSA vs LS7 crate motors for comparison are less than $1k apart. Take away all the amenities like HIDs, BA stereos, shit, A/C, carpeting, pass-through seating... and the Z28 should be less than a ZL1- considerably less- like $5-7k less. This car will come in at just above $50k; smack in the middle of a 1LE and a ZL1. Again, my OPINION only.
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I think you're missing the fact that the LS7 is going to be limited in production numbers, Carbon brakes alone are going to be much more expensive , add the Recaro's that the ZL1 doesn't have, the tires are at least double the cost of the ZL1 tires, so this is going to be at least $60k...live in denial, but GM will charge more for less amenities...
Yes think GT3 911
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:53 PM   #457
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I found where the tail light inspiration came from...
That looks just like the 79 I used to have...
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:55 PM   #458
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It's a package, not a model. Never has been, never will be.
Thats what I thought ...thanks.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:55 PM   #459
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Did it say a release window?
Yes. It says ....

"available Spring of 2014." It also says "Only a limited number will be produced".

Here goes the allocation BS again and ripoff mark-ups.

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Old 03-27-2013, 06:56 PM   #460
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...so this is going to be at least $60k...live in denial, but GM will charge more for less amenities...
And they'll sell 23 of them. They aren't that stupid.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:57 PM   #461
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First thoughts... all my opinions with no factual basis of course...
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1) Those who have the Z28 pegged at $60-65k plus need to get their heads examined. LSA vs LS7 crate motors for comparison are less than $1k apart. Take away all the amenities like HIDs, BA stereos, shit, A/C, carpeting, pass-through seating... and the Z28 should be less than a ZL1- considerably less- like $5-7k less. This car will come in at just above $50k; smack in the middle of a 1LE and a ZL1. Again, my OPINION only.
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I think you're missing the fact that the LS7 is going to be limited in production numbers, Carbon brakes alone are going to be much more expensive , add the Recaro's that the ZL1 doesn't have, the tires are at least double the cost of the ZL1 tires, so this is going to be at least $60k...live in denial, but GM will charge more for less amenities...

Agree. These are the kinds of cars I live for. I hope the Boss and this more hardcore Z/28 start a wider trend. Never could afford the 911 trackday specials.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:00 PM   #462
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....I'm impressed with what Chevy did. They certainly did listen to our feedback, even the crazier feedback like removing stuff from the car. Wow, who woulda thunk A/C and radio delete <except for one speaker left for DIC chimes on radio delete> and the wiring for it removed from the harness to boot! Sweet! Recaro's, manually adjusted of course. And 300 lbs. lighter than the ZL1, nice! Austerity! Outstanding.. and manual only! Almost as pure a trackable street racer as there could be! WELL done Chevy, well done. Now, lets get those camera shots from the show to really see it up close and personal. Can't wait....I'm lovin' on it.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:07 PM   #463
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....I'm impressed with what Chevy did. They certainly did listen to our feedback, even the crazier feedback like removing stuff from the car. Wow, who woulda thunk A/C and radio delete <except for one speaker left for DIC chimes on radio delete> and the wiring for it removed from the harness to boot! Sweet! Recaro's, manually adjusted of course. And 300 lbs. lighter than the ZL1, nice! Austerity! Outstanding.. and manual only! Almost as pure a trackable street racer as there could be! WELL done Chevy, well done. Now, lets get those camera shots from the show to really see it up close and personal. Can't wait....I'm lovin' on it.
Well put...Interesting, though, how they kept ON-Star...lol...As far as losing weight, apparently that thing is sacred...
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:16 PM   #464
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I love everything chevy did, except for the tail lights
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:16 PM   #465
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I am glad I waited till today to comment. Very very good job Chevy.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:23 PM   #466
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I witheld judgement till today as well and I gotta say........ this actually brought a tear to my eye.
Fantastic looking car!
I like everything except the wider cowl and extractor. But I'll prolly warm up to them
Great job GM!
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:37 PM   #467
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If I had a ZL-1, there is no way I'd trade down to the new Z28, and then pay more for it. That's crazy. How often can anyone use the "three seconds faster than a ZL-1" feature during the course of normal everyday travels. Even if you have deep pockets, this car just ain't worth it. I'll take creature comforts anyday over slightly more speed. The ZL-1 is almost as fast and has all the bells and whistles. Personally I don't even like the front or rear styling and what's in between, most of us already have and then some. Just my two cents.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:40 PM   #468
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And they'll sell 23 of them. They aren't that stupid.
They will sell all they want to make...these will not be made in large numbers....so people will definitely be lined up at that price, maybe not you or me, but there will be a demand. Just look at the COPO Camaro, $55k for a rolling chassis/shell?
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:49 PM   #469
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I think both the new SS and the addition of the Z28 look good. And yes the Z28 comes standard with no a/c or R/S halo lights or big radio but try to keep in mind that these will most defiantly be on the options list. Remember even the current ss does not offer halo lights or the auxiliary gauge package standard, all options. I just can't wait to order my new plate. 7POINT0. Yea that should say it all.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:57 PM   #470
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So funny to watch all the haters from yesterday choke on that 427....
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Honestly the more I look at it, the addon fender flares just don't work for me. Seems like an after thought.


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Old 03-27-2013, 08:04 PM   #472
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But it definitely has my favorite engine of all time!


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Old 03-27-2013, 08:07 PM   #473
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No magnetic shocks? It appears to be manually adjusted?
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:07 PM   #474
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love the performance, still dont like the style..
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Rmyers, Looks like you own a zl1 right? They do look like somewhat of an after thought but it more than likely stems from all the rock chips the tires fling on the current ZL1.
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