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Old 03-29-2013, 01:12 AM   #201
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Agree with those saying MSRP will be more than the ZL1. Don't know what their plans are for the ZL1, but I'd say the current version is done. Seriously, who would order one when the Z/28 is faster, lighter, newer and has an engine with way more build potential. They'll have to up the hp in the ZL1 by another hundred to get people to pay more than the Z/28.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:18 AM   #202
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If the 5th gen Z28 is going to be priced high, how much do you think the 6th gen will be.....the Z28 might be forever out of the price range for most .... i don't see prices coming down
It would certainly seem that GM has chosen to honor the Z/28 by getting back to the spirit of it's roots for all out performance. I would tend to agree that GM is setting a precedence at the tail end of the 5th Gen Camaro that the Z/28 moniker will only be on the highest performance road going Camaro that they offer. I wouldn't see that changing in Gen 6.

With the advent of the SS, ZL1 and now 1LE GM has broadened the Camaro market for all enthusiasts and left the Z/28 plenty of room at the top to be the halo showcase for GM performance in a pony car.

And really that's the way it should be.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:16 AM   #203
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Agree with those saying MSRP will be more than the ZL1. Don't know what their plans are for the ZL1, but I'd say the current version is done. Seriously, who would order one when the Z/28 is faster, lighter, newer and has an engine with way more build potential. They'll have to up the hp in the ZL1 by another hundred to get people to pay more than the Z/28.
You have to remember its a track car. People that think this way are in for a rude awakening when they try to daily drive the car for a couple of months. The ZL1 is still the best Camaro for MOST drivers out there. I think we will see more (percentage wise) Z28's up for sale than any other model from buyers that "cant take it anymore". Lack of comfort features, stiff ride, expensive tires, noise....

Even though the Z28 is faster the ZL1 is still the better choice for drivers. Track stars Z28....
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:38 AM   #204
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Despite all the speculation, I still believe the Z/28 will be priced below the ZL1. If the ZL1 MSRP starts at $54,350 then I don't think the Z/28 will be over $52,000. It is really hard to speculate about a limited production "halo car" that is only being built to make a statement. Oh sure, it will make Chevy fans happy, but this car is all about throwing down the gauntlet -- to Ford and others. As such, there may be a strong incentive to hold the price down...
Chevrolet itself has already said the Z28 will be priced higher the ZL1, sorry.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:48 AM   #205
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What add-ons are you guys talking about? This car is stripped, and won't be offered with any options (except A/C). Consider that ceramic brakes, recaro seats, a hand-built LS7 engine, and 19 X 11 wheels are STANDARD equipment. Maybe they'll sell you a flower vase for the dash!!!

Just like other performance car manufacturers (Porsche, Aston Martin, Ferrari), when they strip a model down for track performance, you pay more money.

$67,490
True, sn't AC the only option?
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:28 AM   #206
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Just looking at the integrity of the chassis work on the z28, coupled with the more limited driveability , says that GM is not planning mass production and the cars will be costly..........if you thought the zl1 was hard to get, this car will dwarf that demand by orders of magnitude...........the zl1 forums just about dried up overnight when this sucker was announced..........lets face it, all in all,this game is about one thing...........GOING THE FASTEST...........no awards for second.........i didnt like the styling of the hood at first, but now the raw agressive nature of the car has me in love ......no disco features and pure race appeal..gotta like it
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:32 AM   #207
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Originally I said $75,000... I think I'm revising that up to $80-90,000. I figure it'll be special order so GM might sell 300-400 total over the next year or two.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:52 AM   #208
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Originally I said $75,000... I think I'm revising that up to $80-90,000. I figure it'll be special order so GM might sell 300-400 total over the next year or two.
so the same price as the base option copo camaro?
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:55 AM   #209
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My guess is $64,495 base msrp.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:03 AM   #210
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:05 PM   #211
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THIS car will be embarrassing A LOT of cars costing way more than 100k!!

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Really??? I'm willing to bet the new Porsche GT3 991 will whip the Z28's arse on any road course. Funny thing is the GT3 has all the creature comforts AC, awesome stereo, navigation. Not to mention one of the fastest shifting transmissions on the planet. Good look beating that with any camaro.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:15 PM   #212
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$15K -$20K higher than a SS if it's in line with the pixcing of the various Corvette models
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:24 PM   #213
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Really??? I'm willing to bet the new Porsche GT3 991 will whip the Z28's arse on any road course. Funny thing is the GT3 has all the creature comforts AC, awesome stereo, navigation. Not to mention one of the fastest shifting transmissions on the planet. Good look beating that with any camaro.
He didn't say ALL cars over $100K.
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:25 PM   #214
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$15K -$20K higher than a SS if it's in line with the pixcing of the various Corvette models
Per Chevy website

Base corvette starts 49,600

LS7 corvette starts at 75,600

More like a 26K difference? is that your thinking, or am I misreading you?

32,635 1SS + 26K=58,635...
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:26 PM   #215
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$68995,it will be costly...will not be surprise if gm sells it for more.
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:48 PM   #216
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This is really a wild card to predict! GM could sell it as a limited production not actually making a profit on it. The "Halo" aspect of it will help sell other lesser cars that they will make a proffit on. Also, the expensive components like the brakes are to help a heavy car compete with lighter cars (aka Mustang) and the lighter car manufaturer can step up their game with less expensive efforts. Then there's the fact that the LS7 is an expensive hand built engine. But maybe the LS7 is where they intend to lose a little profit since it's at the end of its life cycle and money has been made on it in the Z06 for a while.

If I were to call price based on other Camaro models alone, I would think GM would be wise to price it just marginally higher than the ZL1 but still under $60k. Having said that I think they would lose money on each one sold for that price range.

At any price, It's cool to have a Z/28 return that is track focused and not just badges!
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:05 PM   #217
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The existing 2013 Corvette Z06 is 75K (starts at) brand new . Doubt they will sell a Camaro for the same price. I'm thinking the Z/28 will be in the high 50's, possibly low 60's.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:25 PM   #218
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The existing 2013 Corvette Z06 is 75K (starts at) brand new . Doubt they will sell a Camaro for the same price. I thinking the Z/28 will be in the high 50's, possibly low 60's.
Except that the Z/28 is equipped more like a Z06 Carbon Edition than a regular production Z06. The Z06 Carbon Edition MSRP is over $100, 000. Coincidentally, GM claims the Z06 Carbon is 3 seconds faster around the track than the ZR1. That's right, I said 3 seconds faster than the ZR1.

That track was Milford proving grounds and, or Laguna Seca.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...hotos-and-info
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:31 PM   #219
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$68995,it will be costly...will not be surprise if gm sells it for more.
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Old 03-29-2013, 07:36 PM   #220
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Except that the Z/28 is equipped more like a Z06 Carbon Edition than a regular production Z06. The Z06 Carbon Edition MSRP is over $100, 000. Coincidentally, GM claims the Z06 Carbon is 3 seconds faster around the track than the ZR1. That's right, I said 3 seconds faster than the ZR1.

That track was Milford proving grounds and, or Laguna Seca.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...hotos-and-info
You read that wrong. The Z06 Carbon is 3 seconds faster than a standard Z06, not the ZR1. All the Z06 Carbon has is the go fast goodies off the ZR1, but it's still down 133hp.


Here is the quote from the article you linked

"GM says the Carbon’s lighter-but-more-robust equipment, such as the larger brakes and rolling stock, means the Z06’s curb weight stays the same at a still-feathery 3150 pounds, or about 200 fewer than the ZR1’s. The added grip and stability, however, translate into the Carbon being a claimed three seconds faster than the standard Z06 around both the company’s Milford, Michigan, proving grounds and Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca in California. The 638-hp ZR1, however, likely will still qualify on pole, GM concedes. "
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:29 PM   #222
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You read that wrong. The Z06 Carbon is 3 seconds faster than a standard Z06, not the ZR1.
You're absolutely right. I did read that wrong. I got so excited about the coincidental "3 seconds faster" claim, and the specified track, I misquoted the article and then I strenuously proved that I misread it aswell.

Still if a base Z06 IS $74,000 and the 3 seconds faster Carbon Edition is $107, 000. That gives a pretty good idea what a premium the Z28 might demand over the Camaro SS or even the ZL1.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:40 PM   #223
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Really??? I'm willing to bet the new Porsche GT3 991 will whip the Z28's arse on any road course. Funny thing is the GT3 has all the creature comforts AC, awesome stereo, navigation. Not to mention one of the fastest shifting transmissions on the planet. Good look beating that with any camaro.
Not sure what your point is. A ZR1 will beat a Z28 around any road course s well and the ZR1 has all the amenities that the Porsche has (interior refinement not withstanding )

No one ever said this was the greates road race car ever. But it will kick the snot out of it's competition from Ford and Fiat.

Also, not sure why everyone is saying the Z28 is faster than the ZL1. It might be on the track, but I'm guessing the 80 hp will make the ZL1 slightly faster in the 1/4 mile. But we'll have to wait and see on that.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:57 PM   #224
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Anyone saying it will be under $50K is crazy. The LS7 is not a cheap engine. The carbon ceramic brakes will add some $$$ too. GM needs to price this car high anyways to make a decent profit from it. I don't see the Z28 selling particularly well.......because it is a track based car, not a comfortable driver. Most people want a car they can live with daily. I love the idea of this car, but it will attract certain people.
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Really??? I'm willing to bet the new Porsche GT3 991 will whip the Z28's arse on any road course. Funny thing is the GT3 has all the creature comforts AC, awesome stereo, navigation. Not to mention one of the fastest shifting transmissions on the planet. Good look beating that with any camaro.
Really??? No really???
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