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Old 03-31-2013, 11:50 AM   #69
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I think the 2014 will grow on all of us eventually

I think the 2014 will grow on all of us eventually. I was not a great fan of the 5th gens when they first came out. I don't know about the tail lights, but something looks familiar here.
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:26 PM   #70
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Like it or not, I think the days of the retro are over. Just like the upcoming Mustang is not expected to look like anything from the past, I doubt seriously that the 6th generation Camaro will either. If you love your pre-2014 because it reminds you of the past, it might be a good idea to hang on to it as long as possible.
I agree that the retro elements will probably be fading away. It was the right way to reintroduce the Camaro, though. That being said, it makes me love my 2011 even more since the styling of that strongly appeals to me. The Camaro needs to evolve or it will stagnate and die. And there will be elements about the refresh and next generation that will appeal to new potential Camaro owners. Even though the C2 Corvette Sting Rays looked awesome, if they were still making them like that 50 years later it would be kind of sad and pathetic. I just hope subsequent generations of Camaro still say "Camaro" as clearly as the 5th generation does.
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:44 PM   #71
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I don't like the changes, front or back. That is actually good, because now I am not tempted to trade mine in on a newer one.
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:36 PM   #72
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WTF is a hero card
It's a large postcard (advertisement) for the new car with information on the back usually.

Very similar to the postcards Nascar drivers hand out

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Old 03-31-2013, 05:38 PM   #73
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interesting... it'll take some getting used to.
Question though: will the front and rear plastic fascias fit on the current models?
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:44 PM   #74
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I dont know if anyone noticed this...but it says the Z/28 is going to be 300 lbs lighter than the ZL1... I was under the impression that it was 300 lbs lighter than the SS....so the z28 is only about 20 lbs lighter than the SS coupe!

Guess it does have a heavier motor though!
They've been saying 300 less than the ZL1 since Wednesday.

And although the motor might be slightly heavier, you also have the suspension & drive train which are almost certainly going to be more robust than they are on the SS.

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Z/28 500+ HP, 500+ Ft*Lb??? I thought they estimated 470 Ft*Lb?
I can't believe it too that long for someone to spot that. Pretty sure its a typo though. Would be awesome if its true though.
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I think the 2014 will grow on all of us eventually. I was not a great fan of the 5th gens when they first came out. I don't know about the tail lights, but something looks familiar here.
Yeah, when I look at the refresh tail lights I see way more similarity with the '69 Camaro than I do with Asian cars from the 90's or Camaro's from the 80's. But to each their own.
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interesting... it'll take some getting used to.
Question though: will the front and rear plastic fascias fit on the current models?
Probably. It doesn't look like any of the sheet metal has changed, but there is still an off-chance that they tweaked how the fascia clips onto the rest of the car.
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:16 PM   #75
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I like the new refreshing look.
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:18 PM   #76
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If it didn't change, there would be lots of complaining. I don't have a problem with any of the changes. It can't stay the same. And the 6th gen is right around the corner anyway (which will start this whole debate all over again).
Yep. No matter what they did, the whiners would whine. The 6 th gen will get trashed by the same crowd
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:57 AM   #77
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On the surface it would seem as though the automotive enthusiast community is becoming more and more ideological. However looking under the surface of things and I generally find that those who tend to whine about changes only represent about 10-15% of the community however have about 50-75% of the voice. Because of this they tend to take over the narrative of a discussion, and in many ways tend to drive the discussion because of that.

One thing that i noticed, is they tend to make wild claims such as because of the C7 their may not be a C8 or any future Corvette.

It really makes it hard at least for me to play a part in automotive forums, I tend to be a general fan of vehicles from all regions and all types. However I find that there are not many places on the internet where I can enjoy my love of cars with other like minded people. Forums tend to be geared one way or another, from the import crowd to the domestic crowd. You have your two wheel forums, truck forums, and car forums....... modern and classic forums. Even on many forums where there is an attempt at creating different sections for different fans you end up with those sections being taken over by the same group.

The reality though is this, while even on this forum you have people who own Camaros and other Chevy/GM products you have those who don't own other Chevy/GM products. There are plenty of people who for example own a Corvette and lets say a Mercedes or a BMW, though we are told that this isn't/shouldn't be the case.

The 2014 Camaro looks to be a pretty big improvement over the 2013 Camaro with improvements from styling to aerodynamic. Color HUD and driver information center also seems to be a pretty cool improvement. Also, while I would have done the Z/28 Camaro different I think that they made a perfect Z/28 Camaro.
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:21 AM   #78
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Taillights look like an old Acura.

Chevrolet could have done better, imo.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:14 AM   #79
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So, am I correct in my understanding that now, when you order the RS package, the DRLs will not be the fog lights, and you will have factory fog lights with the HIDs?
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:23 AM   #80
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Taillights look like an old Acura.
Chevrolet could have done better, imo.
On that analogy, Acura's taillights copied the '69 Camaro's.... maybe Acura could have done better.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:55 AM   #81
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Looks like a '10-'13 hood will swap with the '14...yes/no?
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:22 AM   #82
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I wonder why these items are discontinued for 2014? I realize they may have needed to be slightly redesigned but then again, the car itself somewhat was so it doesn't seem like that'd be a deal breaker. Glad I have the GM GFX on my 2010 SS.

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Old 04-01-2013, 08:12 PM   #83
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Looks like a '10-'13 hood will swap with the '14...yes/no?
Depends if the facia meeting point has changed. I did see that the heat extractor is an SS only option, the V6 won't have it.
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I wonder why these items are discontinued for 2014? I realize they may have needed to be slightly redesigned but then again, the car itself somewhat was so it doesn't seem like that'd be a deal breaker. Glad I have the GM GFX on my 2010 SS.

The order code has been discontinued. They'll have to re-introduce a different order code for each item, based on the new design.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:17 PM   #84
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Tail lights do have a lot of '69 influence, but I also see this -



No complaints here.
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Old 04-01-2013, 08:25 PM   #85
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Yep. No matter what they did, the whiners would whine. The 6 th gen will get trashed by the same crowd
I'm looking forward to what the 6th will have to offer considering the technology age we are in.

It'll be a night and day difference from the 2010-2014 models that we know it. Hopefully the Recaro seat option is here to stay as an option for future models, color HUD, etc. I'm still pushing for a blind sensor in the mirrors and front end collision option maybe marketed as a "Safety tech" package. The design of the 6th Gen is a different topic in itself.
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