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Old 02-14-2008, 02:03 PM   #1
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starting at 37,995!!!?????

Three colors will be available for Challenger: HEMI Orange, Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat and Bright Silver Metallic. The first 6,300 Challengers will display a limited-edition numbered plaque on the dashboard.



Challenger is slated to arrive in showrooms this spring with a starting price of $37,995.


I sure hope the Camaro doesnt start at that!! WOW mucho dinero!!! Not gonna happen outta my wallet. I hope to see them start at mid 20's. 38 grand for starters and Dodge will keep alot of them.

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Old 02-14-2008, 02:21 PM   #2
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The Challenger and Camaro seem to be targeting two different markets. The Camaro is marketed to the young driving market and is designed to be affordable. The Challenger seems to be marketed to the mid-life crisis adult who wants to be in the Camaro market but has more money to spend.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:23 PM   #3
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$37k starting for a SRT8 isn't bad.
$37k starting for the V6 model would be bad.
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Yup 37K for the top dog model is actually pretty good. Its those dealer markups that are the real killer. Thank God I live in the land of too many dealerships and plan to wait a year or 2.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:19 PM   #5
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Yeah since the SRT-8 is the first model they're releasing, that price makes sense, especially considering its limited run.
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Old 02-14-2008, 05:32 PM   #6
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That price doesn't seem to bad for the top-of-the-line model. I just hope we have at least another 75-or-so horses under the hood
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Old 02-14-2008, 05:32 PM   #7
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You seriously freaked me out.. I saw "starting 38 grand".. under the Camaro section and not the "other car" section.

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Yeah, the V6 isn't comming out for a while, and I would assume that the starting price on that is going to be mid-high 20s - still more than a Camaro

GM and Chrysler are in pollar opposites of financial dissarray - yes, GM has still been loosing money, but those losses have been due largely to other ventures in which they've sold and liquidated (GMAC to name the big killer of profits). When broken down into pure vehicles, GM hasn't been doing too bad. I think they were actually up 2.5% in profits on cars and trucks last year.

Chrysler has been loosing money left and right on their cars and trucks. The Challenger in it's current price scheme is not what they need to get back into the black. It's also not going to sell very well straight up AGAINST the Camaro (my prediction) because, if we've all listened to Fbodfather, we know the Camaro is being honed into a well crafted, well engineered, finely tuned automobile that is world class in every aspect. Not just some rehash of a 1970's car built on some existing platform - Camaro looks like a truly modern car with hints of the 67-69s, whereas the Challenger is downright a straight copy of the 1970 model, no appologies.

The new Malibu, Traverse, and Camaro are going to illuminate Chevy dealers the likes of which they haven't seen since the mid-1960's I can feel it. Everything I've seen about the Malibu and Traverse, and everything I've read about the Camaro, these cars are going to be the backbone of Chevy and bring GM back into the black. The 'Bu is good enough to take sales away from the Accord and Camry, the Traverse is legit with a Highlander or Pilot, and the Camaro may well be equally competitive in V6 form with Honda Accord V6 coupes, Nissan Altima 3.5 coupes, and even the BMW 1-series. Who could ever have imagined that GM would build a 4 seat performance coupe - let alone one with the name Camaro on it - that could compete with world class cars from Japan and Europe? For the longest time it was stereotypecast into something a kid in a mullett and listened to Motley Crue all day drove. Not any more. GM is pouring it's finest efforts into the Camaro, more than any other Camaro, into making it a higher class of performance coupe.

The Challenger is none of those things and will serve Dodge as nothing but a showpiece. Sure, the V6 will move a few units, but I guarantee if anyone drives it back to back with a Camaro V6, they will be sold on the Camaro.
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Don't forget the Hyundai i35



and Nissan G35/G37
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:12 PM   #10
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and Nissan G35/G37
you mean Infinity G35/G37

I suppose the Nissan 350z is competition too.
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You seriously freaked me out.. I saw "starting 38 grand".. under the Camaro section and not the "other car" section.

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I think $37,995 is a great price for a 425hp car... anyone here remember what the 405hp C5 Z06 cost new? admittedly, it was alot faster than the Challenger SRT8, but the Z06 was the closest the C5 ever got to 425hp, and it was well over $50,000 when new... so I think $38k isn't bad at all for the car... I would expect that the top of the line Camaro would come in at about that same price with about 20-30hp more than the SRT8... remember, folks, the Shelby GT500 is a $42,000 car and sports 500hp... so the top of the line is probably going to be in the same price range.
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Yeah, the V6 isn't comming out for a while, and I would assume that the starting price on that is going to be mid-high 20s - still more than a Camaro

GM and Chrysler are in pollar opposites of financial dissarray - yes, GM has still been loosing money, but those losses have been due largely to other ventures in which they've sold and liquidated (GMAC to name the big killer of profits). When broken down into pure vehicles, GM hasn't been doing too bad. I think they were actually up 2.5% in profits on cars and trucks last year.

Chrysler has been loosing money left and right on their cars and trucks. The Challenger in it's current price scheme is not what they need to get back into the black. It's also not going to sell very well straight up AGAINST the Camaro (my prediction) because, if we've all listened to Fbodfather, we know the Camaro is being honed into a well crafted, well engineered, finely tuned automobile that is world class in every aspect. Not just some rehash of a 1970's car built on some existing platform - Camaro looks like a truly modern car with hints of the 67-69s, whereas the Challenger is downright a straight copy of the 1970 model, no appologies.

The new Malibu, Traverse, and Camaro are going to illuminate Chevy dealers the likes of which they haven't seen since the mid-1960's I can feel it. Everything I've seen about the Malibu and Traverse, and everything I've read about the Camaro, these cars are going to be the backbone of Chevy and bring GM back into the black. The 'Bu is good enough to take sales away from the Accord and Camry, the Traverse is legit with a Highlander or Pilot, and the Camaro may well be equally competitive in V6 form with Honda Accord V6 coupes, Nissan Altima 3.5 coupes, and even the BMW 1-series. Who could ever have imagined that GM would build a 4 seat performance coupe - let alone one with the name Camaro on it - that could compete with world class cars from Japan and Europe? For the longest time it was stereotypecast into something a kid in a mullett and listened to Motley Crue all day drove. Not any more. GM is pouring it's finest efforts into the Camaro, more than any other Camaro, into making it a higher class of performance coupe.

The Challenger is none of those things and will serve Dodge as nothing but a showpiece. Sure, the V6 will move a few units, but I guarantee if anyone drives it back to back with a Camaro V6, they will be sold on the Camaro.
Looking at the pricing of other Chevy models, the Camaro will undercut the competition on price. Compare the price of a Malibu to a similarly equipped Accord, Altima, or Camry. The Chevy is more affordable. Repeat with the Traverse vs Pilot, Highlander. Chevy = good value. Plain and simple.
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:50 PM   #14
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Yup 37K for the top dog model is actually pretty good. Its those dealer markups that are the real killer. Thank God I live in the land of too many dealerships and plan to wait a year or 2.
You may have missed the "starting at" part of the article. They appear to be on the way to 45+. I hope this is the competition that the camaro is going against. As long as the camaro remains affordable it should be the day lights out of the challenger.
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Good point - I missed that! Don't know how........
Hope you don't mind a little move, Munkee Drummer.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO Problem. Didnt see the other section until I had already posted......
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Old 02-14-2008, 07:59 PM   #16
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You may have missed the "starting at" part of the article. They appear to be on the way to 45+. I hope this is the competition that the camaro is going against. As long as the camaro remains affordable it should be the day lights out of the challenger.
you must have missed the "in Spring" part of the article... you see, the ONLY version of the Challenger to go on sale in the Spring is the SRT8... all other models will follow sometime around September, after production starting in the last half of July... I can PROMISE you that Chrysler will be selling the SRT8 starting at $38k and the lesser models for alot less... from what I am told, the Challenger's top price with every bell, whistle and added extra is about $45k... you have chosen to read only what you want to read in this article.
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cut and pasted directly from the Dodge website:

MY CHALLENGER SRT8
MSRP As Configured: $41,985
Net Price: $41,985


2008 CHALLENGER SRT8 X Pkg. $37,320

Destination Charge $675


Color $0

Dark Slate Gray $0
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat $0



Features/Options $1,890

Power Sunroof $950
MyGIG Multimedia Infotainment System w/Navigation $890
245/45ZR20-Front 255/45ZR20-Rear Performance Tires $50
Premium Leather Trimmed Bucket Seats Incl.
Monotone Paint Incl.
3.06 Axle Ratio Incl.
5-Speed Automatic Transmission with Autostick® Incl.
6.1-Liter SRT HEMI V8 Engine Incl.
13-Speaker Kicker SRT High- Performance Audio Incl.
20" x 9.0" Forged Aluminum SRT Design Wheels Incl.



Adjustments $2,100

Gas Guzzler Tax $2,100


MSRP As Configured: $41,985
Current Incentives


Net Price: $41,985


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Old 02-14-2008, 11:21 PM   #18
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I think $37,995 is a great price for a 425hp car... anyone here remember what the 405hp C5 Z06 cost new? admittedly, it was alot faster than the Challenger SRT8, but the Z06 was the closest the C5 ever got to 425hp, and it was well over $50,000 when new... so I think $38k isn't bad at all for the car... I would expect that the top of the line Camaro would come in at about that same price with about 20-30hp more than the SRT8... remember, folks, the Shelby GT500 is a $42,000 car and sports 500hp... so the top of the line is probably going to be in the same price range.
Shelby's are starting at $62,000 with the highest bidder and the crap the dealers are pulling.
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Shelby's are starting at $62,000 with the highest bidder and the crap the dealers are pulling.
really? because they're not selling that high here in Texas... I recently had a conversation with an f-body guy that works at a Ford dealership about getting a GT500, and he said that it wouldn't be a problem to get one for MSRP or maybe even a little below to be able to "lure away" a devoted GM follower.

and yesh, I have been entertaining the idea of getting a GT500 as well as a Challenger... because I think it would be cool to have a six speed version of all three pony cars
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^I'm swinging by your place for some test drives! lol... I mean c'mon, right? You do need some help stretching out the "legs" of all your cars, right?!?!
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^I'm swinging by your place for some test drives! lol... I mean c'mon, right? You do need some help stretching out the "legs" of all your cars, right?!?!
Naomi has to drive the Camaro, since she wont drive anything else, so you and I will swap between the boat and the Shelby... oh, wait, the Challenger and Shelby

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If the Camaro gets a price tag like that, I'd rather buy a Cadillac. I could get a luxury status symbol at that price. Fortunately, we all know that the Camaro is going to be affordable.
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Yup 37K for the top dog model is actually pretty good. Its those dealer markups that are the real killer. Thank God I live in the land of too many dealerships and plan to wait a year or 2.
Marks ups aren't designed to kill the sale. It's there to hold gross on a new vehicle.
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you guys gotta remember that the 41,000 isnt really gonna be the price. only 6000 challengers are gonna be made and its basically gonna be a ebay auction to see who gets them. I know when my unlce asked about them the dealer said he has to wait for the bids to open or some crap like that. so yeah the challengers might not becoming cheap after all.
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Three colors will be available for Challenger: HEMI Orange, Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat and Bright Silver Metallic. The first 6,300 Challengers will display a limited-edition numbered plaque on the dashboard.



Challenger is slated to arrive in showrooms this spring with a starting price of $37,995.


I sure hope the Camaro doesnt start at that!! WOW mucho dinero!!! Not gonna happen outta my wallet. I hope to see them start at mid 20's. 38 grand for starters and Dodge will keep alot of them.

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its actually over 40 after the gas guzzler tax and it doesnt even come in a stick!
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