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Old 03-29-2013, 06:19 PM   #301
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There's always a few that have to put a negative spin to ruin it for the rest.
Yes, everyone has an opinion and you can state it as such, but it will be perceived as whining and complaining when it goes against the grain. My .02 cents. Carry on
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It was simply a $385 option in 1967. Only 602 were produced the first yr. in today's times minimum of 10000 should be produced regardless of whether or not that many are ordered. If its a 1 yr manufactured car, I see no more than 1500 produced because of price ordered. Back in '67, they may have been race cars, but they were sedans which meant they were reliable on the street.

$60000+ garage statues they'll be. They should've replaced the 1LE rather than make it what it is today IMO.

As for what fbod said about voting out our elected officials? That's just a crock of you know what. Voting is non existent to public. Everyone knows this. No matter who you vote for its been already decided who wins elections. But that's a diff story.
The general public didn't even know about the option in 67 until after they started winning races. Only SCCA race teams really knew that it existed at first, unless you were A SPECIAL CUSTOMER....
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It was simply a $385 option in 1967. Only 602 were produced the first yr. in today's times minimum of 10000 should be produced regardless of whether or not that many are ordered. If its a 1 yr manufactured car, I see no more than 1500 produced because of price ordered. Back in '67, they may have been race cars, but they were sedans which meant they were reliable on the street.

$60000+ garage statues they'll be. They should've replaced the 1LE rather than make it what it is today IMO.

As for what fbod said about voting out our elected officials? That's just a crock of you know what. Voting is non existent to public. Everyone knows this. No matter who you vote for its been already decided who wins elections. But that's a diff story.
Do you really think they went into this to build a car for everyone? I'm sure they have a pretty good idea how many they will build and sell. They have a few months to really know with the phones ringing off the hook with interest in the car..

And I'm sure there is a lot of people with ties to GM in the racing and car collecting community that knew of this car loooong before the NY show..

So I would bet there was a long list for the car long before you or I ever knew about the car..

Get a grip on reality. If you want the badge go buy it stick it on your car and walla you have your own special Z/28. Cause if GM would have done anything different just to make the few of you happy it would have been the same as you just throwing a Z/28 badge on your car..

At first I can see where some of you might of been disappointed, but after three days it starts to sound like a spoiled kid not getting his/her way..

I can't afford one either but I love what GM has done with the fifth gen as a whole and I feel grateful to be a part of what's happening in the Camaro line-up cause when the dust settles there may never be another movement like this in our lifetime..


Peace out..

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^ you are correct, see the link below.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149090

Unfortunately the Z/28 has been just a "badge" for sooooo long many don't understand what has happened. To all; bask in the shine of the Z/28 as it was intended to be. It's back!
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Do you really think they went into this to build a car for everyone? I'm sure they have a pretty good idea how many they will build and sell. They have a few months to really know with the phones ringing off the hook with interest in the car..

And I'm sure there is a lot of people with ties to GM in the racing and car collecting community that knew of this car loooong before the NY show..

So I would bet there was a long list for the car long before you or I ever knew about the car..

Get a grip on reality. If you want the badge go buy it stick it on your car and walla you have your own special Z/28. Cause if GM would have done anything different just to make the few of you happy it would have been the same as you just throwing a Z/28 badge on your car..

At first I can see where some of you might of been disappointed, but after three days it starts to sound like a spoiled kid not getting his/her way..

I can't afford one either but I love what GM has done with the fifth gen as a whole and I feel grateful to be a part of what's happening in the Camaro line-up cause when the dust settles there may never be another movement like this in our lifetime..


Peace out..

No dude. I don't want just a badged car. But reality of what this car is? Is a garage queen. Sure it's a track car no doubt. But the many of those that say its a real Z, grew up in the 60s. If I could afford to throw $60+k at it right now I'd own one and burn it up on a track strip or street. I'd gladly trade mine to get one if the price was lower. I wanted a stripped out racer FACTORY built with warranty. But I won't trade mine and dump $40k more on it. Later on maybe but it sucks I have to grow old before owning in my youth.
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It was simply a $385 option in 1967. Only 602 were produced the first yr. in today's times minimum of 10000 should be produced regardless of whether or not that many are ordered. If its a 1 yr manufactured car, I see no more than 1500 produced because of price ordered. Back in '67, they may have been race cars, but they were sedans which meant they were reliable on the street.

$60000+ garage statues they'll be. They should've replaced the 1LE rather than make it what it is today IMO.

As for what fbod said about voting out our elected officials? That's just a crock of you know what. Voting is non existent to public. Everyone knows this. No matter who you vote for its been already decided who wins elections. But that's a diff story.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Just about every single thing in this post proves that.
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If I could afford to throw $60+k at it right now I'd own one and burn it up on a track strip or street. I'd gladly trade mine to get one if the price was lower.
Earlier you told me to piss off and that you could afford this car. Which is it? It really sounds like you're just here to argue and spout off things that are completely false.
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I think it shouldn't have been built.... not this Gen...
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I think it shouldn't have been built.... not this Gen...
I think the next Gen will be one that will be more affordable and more available to the masses. Instead of Z/28 it will be Z28.
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3 Questions, someone at one time said the Gen 5 Z/28 would exist because of the left over LS7 engines from the now discontinued Z06. If that is true will the Z/28 only be around until that warehouse of leftover LS7 engines are gone? Or is it possible it may return in the 6th Gen with a LT1 or a new engine that will also be used in the C7 version of the Z06? Or is it possible the Z/28 will dissapear from the lineup when the 5th Gen ends?
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3 Questions, someone at one time said the Gen 5 Z/28 would exist because of the left over LS7 engines from the now discontinued Z06. If that is true will the Z/28 only be around until that warehouse of leftover LS7 engines are gone? Or is it possible it may return in the 6th Gen with a LT1 or a new engine that will also be used in the C7 version of the Z06? Or is it possible the Z/28 will dissapear from the lineup when the 5th Gen ends?
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3 Questions, someone at one time said the Gen 5 Z/28 would exist because of the left over LS7 engines from the now discontinued Z06. If that is true will the Z/28 only be around until that warehouse of leftover LS7 engines are gone? Or is it possible it may return in the 6th Gen with a LT1 or a new engine that will also be used in the C7 version of the Z06? Or is it possible the Z/28 will dissapear from the lineup when the 5th Gen ends?
Something to think about...
1) Gen-5 Z/28s, as intro'd Wednesday, will have LS7s through the 2015 Model Year. How many built = how many orders can be processed...

2) Yes...

3) No.
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I think it shouldn't have been built.... not this Gen...
...and I for one am VERY happy they did...

BTW, does your "Barley Street Legal" ZL1, as per sig, "hop" down the street/road/track? Or does it BARELY get there?
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3 Questions, someone at one time said the Gen 5 Z/28 would exist because of the left over LS7 engines from the now discontinued Z06. If that is true will the Z/28 only be around until that warehouse of leftover LS7 engines are gone? Or is it possible it may return in the 6th Gen with a LT1 or a new engine that will also be used in the C7 version of the Z06? Or is it possible the Z/28 will dissapear from the lineup when the 5th Gen ends?
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1) Gen-5 Z/28s, as intro'd Wednesday, will have LS7s through the 2015 Model Year. How many built = how many orders can be processed...

2) Yes...

3) No.
This assumes they are still building LS7s. Are they? They shut down Wixom and moved the plant to BG. They never really detailed what was going there. With C6 production done, that would imply both LS7 and LS9s are shut down as would be the LS3 with dry sump. So what moved to BG? If the Corvette does't get the LS7 then why would it's production move to BG?
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My questions were more for others interested in the Z/28, like my son, and people that want one but cant afford one right now. I love the idea of one, but really have no need myself, just like the SS or ZL1.. That's why I have a V6.
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No dude. I don't want just a badged car. But reality of what this car is? Is a garage queen. Sure it's a track car no doubt. But the many of those that say its a real Z, grew up in the 60s. If I could afford to throw $60+k at it right now I'd own one and burn it up on a track strip or street. I'd gladly trade mine to get one if the price was lower. I wanted a stripped out racer FACTORY built with warranty. But I won't trade mine and dump $40k more on it. Later on maybe but it sucks I have to grow old before owning in my youth.


You do realize many forum members already own garage queens including myself and you have a problem with the Z/28 being one? It won't be your car so why should you care?

You are almost borderline trolling my friend.
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Sure it can be driven on the street, but with no amenities. I think they should have made this into a more streetable car. Drop in the ls7 and a few other goodies. The price could be in the 40's then.
...I can take your side somewhat and see your point. Here's why. Sour grapes for the majority of us who want one, but won't get one because...A. Be able to afford it, and B. Can't get an allocation because of limited supply. It's a one off send off to the LS engine platform and Gen 5 Camaro. Another testiment to grand architecture and engineering prowess. God Bless Chevy!
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...I can take your side somewhat and see your point. Here's why. Sour grapes for the majority of us who want one, but won't get one because...A. Be able to afford it, and B. Can't get an allocation because of limited supply. It's a one off send off to the LS engine platform and Gen 5 Camaro. Another testiment to grand architecture and engineering prowess. God Bless Chevy!
I bet most people would have been happy if the 1LE had been called the Z28 if there had also been a bump in HP from the SS...
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Wow, this is really sad. Just because the Z/28 will be expensive and will not have Halo lights, it is the brunt of so much hate. What did anyone expect? We already have the Camaro that does everything, the ZL1. We have Camaros for everyone else too.

This is the Track Car. The one that might become another legend. If we put all the luxury items back on the Z28 and ditch all the extra performance/weight upgrades all we would have is another good handling $45K-$50K Camaro that would have trouble staying ahead of a well driven 1LE with long tubes and a CAI.

Do we need or want that? Just because you cannot afford a Z/28 or can't live with out console gauges, don't knock a car of a higher order because you don't understand it or can't have it.

But rather chill and enjoy the best times for muscle cars ever.

Now the legend part is still to be proven by the Z/28. Time will tell. it will be interesting. And know that the Z/28 hopefully representing so well, is the same basic car with the same chassis genetics all 5th gen owners are driving. Enjoy.
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This is what we wanted, not a Trans-AM series entry car like they produced.
http://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet/2008-camaro_ls7_concept/

All they had to do was stick an LS7 in a 1LE package for another $5k and slap a z/28 badge on it.

What GM built should be labeled CAMARO COPO "Trans-AM PRO series" or something.

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But then all the old fogies trying to re-live the past would not have a Z/28 to talk about.
If one wanted to relive the past wouldn't they purchase a 1Gen Z/28?
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This is what we wanted, not a Trans-AM series entry car like they produced.
http://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet/2008-camaro_ls7_concept/

All they had to do was stick an LS7 in a 1LE package for another $5k and slap a z/28 badge on it.

What GM built should be labeled CAMARO COPO "Trans-AM PRO series" or something.


Obviously GM did not think that was good enough. Nothing stopping you from building a car that way and I'm sure it would be a great car but that isn't enough. If you read the Z/28 forums before the 2014 Z/28 was revealed, you could see all the arguments made by a few people, including myself. A lot of us agreed that the 1LE was a good starting point but more had to be done before it was a Z/28. GM exceeded our expectations by a mile but did so by taking what we had built and making it even better than we though could be done.
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