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Old 03-29-2013, 12:38 AM   #126
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For those complaining about the price, move on. I for one am glad they built a "real" z28 instead of another sticker badge mobile. The people who can apeciate what Z28 stands for will understand.
In 1967 a Z-28 was not a well mannered car by any means, and it was built with a purpose. Racing.
Fast forwar to 2014. Car is built for? exactly. racing. And so it should be.
Its still licencable unlike a copo, and people who appreciate them for what they are will still buy them for street use just as was done in 1967.
The car has come full circle and I applaude GM for the direction it took.
Says the guy with a highly modded ZL1($$$). People like Rick Hendrick & Jay Leno will appreciate them in their garages more than on the track. Probably more likely to see one at a car show than on the street/track. That's the pity.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:10 AM   #127
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Yeah, the Z/28 is going to be $$$. The perfect Z/28 would have even more aggressive weight savings like lightweight doors/panels, manual windows, & rear seat & console delete. It would also have extra gauges in place of radio, extra bracing, rollbar, & a dry sump, high-revving 302 based off the new LT1. Keep the ZL1 brakes, coolers, & add upgraded coilovers & 1LE package. GM could have kept the price in the low $40s. It would have been more accessible to regular guys on a budget.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:25 AM   #128
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Z/28 is essentially the COPO Camaro for road racing.

It's not a 1LE with an LS7 or a ZL1 without the LSA and MRC. It's more for track performance than street like the aforementioned variants and while not quite to the extreme the COPO is the idea is the same.

Cobra R is a perfect example. Although I wouldn't expect production to be limited.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:17 AM   #129
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yeah but that's cause dealer markup....what do ya think it'll be on these?

simple fact is the car is outta reach for most....As Tallica once said: SAD BUT TRUE
actually i priced one out on ford's site fully optioned and it was at 69k before sales tax so yeah with sales tax and all fees it's well above 70k

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I'm not saying they WILL beat the next generation 302 LS, but you can't blame them for raising the bar as high as possible.
302LS? I thought it was a 6.2(378)LT1 with direct injection???
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If Ford built a 5.8 NA at 88 HP/L like the 302, it would be about 515 HP. With what it took to get that power from the 302, I doubt they would be able to get much more out of a NA 5.8.
with the help of direct injection how many valves per head and how many cams? yes i agree we are kinda in the dark age with OHV but i can't explain why I love them other than they are so much easier to tear apart and rebuild and a h/c package doesn't cost as much as a new s60 lol
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:22 AM   #130
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Upwards of 75K???? GM hopefuls that trash will sell like gold!!!!
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:11 AM   #131
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G.M., don't build that kind of horses with a 5.0, but they can and should! 6.2. Liter cars should make much more hp and tq
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:13 AM   #132
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Its actually 376 ci.
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:37 AM   #133
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I'm thinking it'll be $59,995. Depending on the options, it may go upwards to $64,995.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:48 AM   #134
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If Ford built a 5.8 NA at 88 HP/L like the 302, it would be about 515 HP. With what it took to get that power from the 302, I doubt they would be able to get much more out of a NA 5.8.
Not true. D.I, 4 cams 32v can make more hp/l than the ohv.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:17 AM   #135
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I don't wanna sound like a complete and total nut job here -- but maybe we should wait for Chevy to announce pricing before speculating our way off the deep end?
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:20 AM   #136
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I don't wanna sound like a complete and total nut job here -- but maybe we should wait for Chevy to announce pricing before speculating our way off the deep end?
A noble thought, but doubtful it will catch on...lol...I'd say it's fair sport for now...Pricing may be a while off...If they'd say when they will announce the price, you would be spot on...lol...
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:29 AM   #137
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wow the Z28 is going to be more expensive than the $ 86,000 priced COPO camaro? man that's very expensive....
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:40 AM   #138
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this topic needs to be dropped. look at what they put into the Z28. the brakes and engine alone add $17K to the price over an SS. possibly even ZL1.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:34 AM   #139
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It should be the most expensive Camaro yet, I just think as usual GM went all wrong about it. I just don't know how many people will spend that kind of money on a Camaro.
If it were done right l lots would.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:57 AM   #140
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Its actually 376 ci.
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with the help of direct injection how many valves per head and how many cams? yes i agree we are kinda in the dark age with OHV but i can't explain why I love them other than they are so much easier to tear apart and rebuild and a h/c package doesn't cost as much as a new s60 lol
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Not true. D.I, 4 cams 32v can make more hp/l than the ohv.
see above post because i agree with you, more cams and more intake and exhaust valve=greater hp and tq numbers (more air in more air out)
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:03 PM   #141
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Do you even drive one of these cars? If you don't, then I guess it's ok you don't know what your talking about. Relax you don't have a dog in this fight.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:03 PM   #142
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:05 PM   #143
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Don't do it!!!!!! You'll regret it for the rest of your life!!!
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:11 PM   #144
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I may swap a 1968 Z28 for a new one
I would never consider trading a classic like that for the current one.


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Old 03-29-2013, 12:12 PM   #145
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Not true. D.I, 4 cams 32v can make more hp/l than the ohv.

The 302 in the 2012/2013 BOSS 302 is 4 valve DOHC. DI may add some power but another 40 HP?
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:16 PM   #146
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The 302 in the 2012/2013 BOSS 302 is 4 valve DOHC. DI may add some power but another 40 HP?
Don't know. Guessing 25-30. You can also change cams for more power can keep it legal. Lots of choices.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:12 PM   #147
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If ur paying $80k.......why not just buy a z06....just saying
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:22 PM   #148
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The 302 in the 2012/2013 BOSS 302 is 4 valve DOHC. DI may add some power but another 40 HP?
at least 40hp... Hyundai picked up 24hp by going DI in their 3.8 v6, so I know Ford can get more with a larger displacement engine...

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If ur paying $80k.......why not just buy a z06....just saying
for $80k I would buy a z06, or even an M3 and be just as happy
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:56 PM   #149
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this topic needs to be dropped. look at what they put into the Z28. the brakes and engine alone add $17K to the price over an SS. possibly even ZL1.
Where do you get $17k? The LS7 costs about $8k more than an LS3. Are you saying the brakes cost $9k more than the SS brembos? I seriously doubt that.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:36 PM   #150
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Where do you get $17k? The LS7 costs about $8k more than an LS3. Are you saying the brakes cost $9k more than the SS brembos? I seriously doubt that.
Yes, the CC will cost at least 9k more then the Brembos. The cheapest CC brake option you can get on any car is on a Porsche Boxter and it's a $7400 option...and they are not 6 piston calipers...or the size of bass drum like on the Z
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