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Old 03-28-2013, 11:59 AM   #1
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Z/28 vs. C7

The Z28 is hinting around 500 hp. Some say the C7 will have 500. The Z28 is going to be about 600 pounds heavier although weights have not been confirmed. If so would have to assume 1/4 mile times much better with the C7 particularly with an automatic. Track times about the same. Most likely the C7 will be in the $50K range and with all the creature comforts. Some have hinted the Z28 will be more expensive. I personally think the C7 looks better. Unless you need four seats why would anybody buy a Z28?
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:03 PM   #2
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:12 PM   #3
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If I was personally spending that kind of money on a car, I would rather have the Corvette.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:33 PM   #4
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I started to think about getting the z28 and trading the zl1..........too close to the end of the model run........although the z28 is now likely the car to collect..I hoped the zl1 would have been but I acted in haste... ...then you still have the vette to worry about.............the move here would be to get the new vette in a couple years when they put a real motor in it.......you get your decent comfort level WITH performance and wont have anything else in your class
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:51 PM   #5
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the move here would be to get the new vette in a couple years when they put a real motor in it.......you get your decent comfort level WITH performance and wont have anything else in your class
Only problem with that is going to be price. Most won't be able to afford that new Z07 or what ever it will be called. And too it's a long wait until it comes out if you are wanting a new car now.
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Old 03-28-2013, 01:00 PM   #6
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I would buy the Z/28 because it is an iconic car. I have always wanted a true Z/28 and this is a true Z/28.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:45 AM   #7
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Z/28 minght beat out the c7 for me purely because it is such a focused car, it is purpose built not to please a large majority, but to go fast that's it!!!
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:09 AM   #9
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On the drag strip or road course the C7 wins hands down, the weight difference and CG difference is just too great. Folks forget the C5 Camaro is really a disguised 4 door Holden Commodore. The C6 Camaro ATS platform will be far better as it is better focused on weight as well as performance and more recent technology. What makes the C5 Camaro so popular was it's absence from 2003 to 2009 and the allowance of function follows form in the styling.
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First model year “base” C7 vs. ultimate Gen5 Camaro? No Contest. Z/28. There will be better Corvettes to come, as for 2014 I wouldn’t buy the C7.
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Z28 is the better car...it has the better engine and its a pure race car!!! I dont believe the LT1 will have more than the advertise estimated 450hp.
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Old 03-30-2013, 09:11 PM   #13
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I would buy the Z/28 because it is an iconic car. I have always wanted a true Z/28 and this is a true Z/28.

I guess the Corvette is not iconic !
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The Z28 is hinting around 500 hp. Some say the C7 will have 500. The Z28 is going to be about 600 pounds heavier although weights have not been confirmed. If so would have to assume 1/4 mile times much better with the C7 particularly with an automatic. Track times about the same. Most likely the C7 will be in the $50K range and with all the creature comforts. Some have hinted the Z28 will be more expensive. I personally think the C7 looks better. Unless you need four seats why would anybody buy a Z28?
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I guess the Corvette is not iconic !
Never said that. Just meant I have always wanted a Z/28 built in the spirit of the original.
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:12 PM   #16
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I'd stay away from both actually. The z28 is to track focused, the c7 only has 2 seats.
Make mine a 1LE or ZL1.
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:15 PM   #17
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The new Z/28 is not intended to be for everyone. It's designed with a purpose, and that purpose is not shared with the C7. They are 2 different vehicles with fundamentally different designs and intentions.
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:20 PM   #18
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The new Z/28 is not intended to be for everyone. It's designed with a purpose, and that purpose is not shared with the C7. They are 2 different vehicles with fundamentally different designs and intentions.
I'd listen to this man.
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:38 PM   #19
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I'd listen to this man.
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That being said, I think the Z will beat a new C7 to a pulp on a road course. That is, until they come out with a Z06 equivalent in the C7.

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Old 03-31-2013, 12:06 AM   #20
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:22 AM   #21
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Buy what u can afford!!! Stop feeling sorry ..
How about what you want first and then can afford. "Stop feeling sorry"??? What does that have to do with what I said???

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The new Z/28 is not intended to be for everyone. It's designed with a purpose, and that purpose is not shared with the C7. They are 2 different vehicles with fundamentally different designs and intentions.
But you do have to decide on one or the other unless you want to buy both.

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That being said, I think the Z will beat a new C7 to a pulp on a road course. That is, until they come out with a Z06 equivalent in the C7.

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How do you know? What makes you think the Z will beat the C7 track or drag strip? Nothing has been confirmed yet.
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:29 AM   #22
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Old 03-31-2013, 09:41 AM   #23
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2014 Camaro Z28 is the best Camaro ever.
2014 Corvette C7 the best Corvette ever.


Based for example on what Porsche does with the Cayman and the 911. Even that the Cayman S is a very well balanced machine (better than the 911 Carrera S). Porsche never allowed the Cayman to be over their flag top sport car the 911. Same thing will happen here. GM will not allow that the more expensive Corvette to fall below the Camaro.
It will be interesting to see on the track the new Corvette Z51 VS the Z28, but I think that the Z28 will not have a chance against some type of Z06 or ZR1 with the magnet... suspension and wide Michelin cup tires.
Also for example: the present Camaro ZL1 will beat the Corvette Grand Sport and the stock Z06 (except for the Carbon edition & ZR1 that are GM's top sport cars).
If you compare one VS the other. Corvette always has been much lighter with a much lower CG and more aerodynamic, but lacks the Camaro's back seat that is very practical. Either way both are excellent track machines
without able competition from FORD or Dodge (except the VIPER that is a contender)
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:07 AM   #24
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Old 03-31-2013, 10:18 AM   #25
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The answer depends on the final HP numbers.

The LS7 when in the Corvette is rated at 505. But when they put the LSA in Camaro it gained 20 HP on the same application in the CTS-V.

So is the LS7 going to be the same 505? I'd guess yes, because I don't see GM investing a lot into that engine for such low numbers and even spending the $$ to recertify it.

Will the LT1 come in at 450? 460? 470??? That we don't know yet. GM announced the 3.6TT and it is pretty much what they announced it to be. They announced the certified numbers. The LT1 the did not.

C7 will have essentially the Z06 frame (aluminum) and chassis with one exception.

TIRES. The Z/28 has some pretty fancy rubber there. The Z06 and ZR1 can be had with Cup Tires. Those tires alone knocked serious time off the Nurburgring laps for both of those cars. The C7 may or may not have optional track tires.

So if you put equal tires on both a C7 and Z/28 it's a pretty close race.

Also keep in mind Corvette has much better aerodynamics so a long straight favors the Y-car over the F.

Z/28 3800 pounds
C7 3300 pounds

Z/28 505 "plus" HP
C7 450 "plus" HP

So after all that blabbering, it's ceramic brakes and tires that are the difference.

Remember, GM has said the C7 is a sub 4.0 second car to 60 mph. That alone is much faster than the C6 with 430 HP. So to get that improvement I think we are looking at a little more than a 20 HP bump.
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